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It Could Be Worse (EVO 4G)
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That video pretty much sums up my feelings about the Android OS. Infuriating to use and figure out across devices. Silly hardware buttons that sometimes have different functionality from app to app and are laid out differently from phone to phone. Inconsistent user interface that is cumbersome and difficult to use. Has these "WTF" moments in the interface where you're just wondering what the hell they were thinking. Like on the EVO I need to click on a 4G icon on my home screen to enable it? Shouldn't it just turn on by itself when it detects it is in a 4G area? Seems confusing.
And I tried for the life of me to figure out my friends myTouch 3G yesterday. Couldn't do it. And I'm a nerd! It's not the phone, it's the OS.
Wow. Really?
My GF picked up my phone for the first time last week (nexus) and had no trouble navigating it. Counter that with a friend at work who owns an iPhone couldn't figure out where to start with my phone. I guess iPhone really does dumb down their users.
The 4G button is to turn the radio off, yes. Its like turning the 3G radio off on your phone when you don't want it to scan for 3G networks because you know you're not in one -- saves battery. Great OPTION. It really isn't confusing at all.
Silly hardware buttons? Lol. It gives more functionality a lot quicker than having one button and onscreen buttons if devs decide to implement them.
Gawd Apple fanboys infuriate me.
Android is the exact opposite of user-friendly. From apps that have no consistent interface to programs that run in the background eating CPU time with no way to stop them, Android is a user's NIGHTMARE.
Maybe you have time in your day to run a task manager app and kill all the apps you don't need every few minutes. I don't.
Maybe you have time in your day to run a task manager app and kill all the apps you don't need every few minutes. I don't.
Bad battery?? I took my evo off the charger yesterday at 7am. Looked at around 75 emails and responded to around 25. Surfed for about 2 hours. Watched 1 hour show thru slingbox. Texted 30-40 times. Phone call 1 hours worth. Put the phone back on charger at midnite with 60% battery remaining. By the way i am not apple hater, typing this on my ipad. I dont hate iphone. I just get terrible service from att where i live and great service from sprint. Both the iphone and evo are great phones. Choice depends on service where you live and personal preference. Saying any phone but iphone is terrible doesnt make iphone better.
Android has an overall unpolished feel similar to what you experience running a jailbroken iPhone. That's not a good thing.
The $10 4G charge is completely ridiculous, but you can't compare Sprint's unlimited data and text to Apple's limited data and no text. AT&T doesn't have a similar plan, so it's hard to compare apples to apples, but you can try to get close (you did not).
Sprint: 450 anytime minutes, unlimited minutes to any mobile phone (any network), unlimited SMS/MMS/etc., unlimited data. $69.99 (package) + $10 (4G charge)= $79.99
AT&T: 450 anytime minutes, 5000 night & weekend minutes, unlimited minutes to any mobile phone (AT&T network only), unlimited SMS/MMS/etc., 2GB data. $39.99 (rate plan) + $20 (SMS/MMS/etc.) + $25 (2GB-limited data) = $84.99
So the reality is that AT&T gives you a lot lessfor more moneythan Sprint does. While the debate over which phone is better will doubtless rage on, the debate as to which carrier offers a better deal ended a while ago; you just refuse to acknowledge reality.
As far as I know, doesn't that $80 include unlimited texting? If so, your comparisons are faulty. But I agree the 4G charge (even if there's no 4G in your area) is ridiculous.
Just seeing threads like this and people even saying there are android fanboys says something. Glad to see Apple might be getting some serious compitition.
Reminds me of all the complaining on iPhone forums back when the iPhone 3G came out and everyone had to pay $10 extra a month whether they had 3G service in their area or not.
And back then, there were quite a few ATT users without 3G.
Over time, just as will happen with Sprint 4G, the coverage increased and complaints died down for the most part. (We still often see people who deliberately switch to EDGE only just so their iPhone won't drop calls. So they're still paying $10 extra even in 3G coverage areas.)
And back then, there were quite a few ATT users without 3G.
Over time, just as will happen with Sprint 4G, the coverage increased and complaints died down for the most part. (We still often see people who deliberately switch to EDGE only just so their iPhone won't drop calls. So they're still paying $10 extra even in 3G coverage areas.)
What is this consistent interface business? I've been using an android phone for months now and never had any issues with app interfaces. I also frequent numerous android boards and have never heard anybody complain about it. Most apps are tailored to work on a range of devices.
Yes, the hardware interface has variations between handsets (usually very slight, btw) but in practice it makes no difference. It sounds as though you're getting your information second or third hand.
I've never even had to look at a task killer either, btw. I've heard of rogue apps like the ones you're describing, but these are rare and usually patched pretty quickly.
This argument is just like your price-plan comparison above - highly selective.
Lets just let it be known that Juan007 doesnt know anything and spews off about everything.
Tries to twist things to favor his point of view when it reality when its UNtwisted -- favors the other point of view.
Classic ignorant fool.
Tries to twist things to favor his point of view when it reality when its UNtwisted -- favors the other point of view.
Classic ignorant fool.
My first time reading one of his posts and that was pretty much the impression I got...
Wait though, he'll be back with links. Links, I tell you!!
I don't really see why (or how) one can be better than the other. In my opinion (this is not a fact) Android phones and iPhones are different and each offers different things. I had an iPhone for 3 years (2G/3G/3GS) and my wife still has an iPhone (4) but I just craved for something different. I like the fact that with Android you can do a lot of customization. Don't like the keyboard, change it, don't like the browser, change it, don't like your notifications, change it, etc. I think the iPhone is the kind of phone that takes very little setup, whereas with Android phones you have to configure a few things to get it how you want it (I like to tinker around so it is a + for me).
In essence, saying one is better than the other is an opinion, the Evo will be better for some users and the iPhone will be better for other users. I think both operating systems have some way to go before either is perfect.
Operating system areas for improvement:
iOS, far too closed and locked down, awful notifications, content management.
Android, can be cluttered at times, battery life (needing to turn things off when not using them), quality of apps in app store, content management.
Remember, these are my opinions, I am not saying they're right, so don't go crazy about it.
Also forgot to say, this whole task killer thing has to come from people who haven't used an Android 2.1 device. I have never used, and have not felt the need to use a task killer on my Evo.
In essence, saying one is better than the other is an opinion, the Evo will be better for some users and the iPhone will be better for other users. I think both operating systems have some way to go before either is perfect.
Operating system areas for improvement:
iOS, far too closed and locked down, awful notifications, content management.
Android, can be cluttered at times, battery life (needing to turn things off when not using them), quality of apps in app store, content management.
Remember, these are my opinions, I am not saying they're right, so don't go crazy about it.
Also forgot to say, this whole task killer thing has to come from people who haven't used an Android 2.1 device. I have never used, and have not felt the need to use a task killer on my Evo.
I think that maybe Android is better suited for a particular range of users who prefer customization at the cost of user experience or interface.
It's really where the iPhone parted ways with the rest of the smartphone market. They made an easy-to-use, intuitive OS that makes the phone powerful, visually elegant and fun at the same time. Granted, you have to deal with Apple, a secretive and controlling company, but you can choose to not buy Apple, or jailbreak if you can't deal with it.
Regardless of public forum opinion, their sales numbers prove that people prefer this sort of OS on a phone, rather than a clunky/confusing interface that wastes time. People deal with that enough on their home computers. I'd rather have my mobile device work quickly every time. When I'm at an intersection and need quick directions before the light changes, the iPhone hasn't failed me yet.
It's really where the iPhone parted ways with the rest of the smartphone market. They made an easy-to-use, intuitive OS that makes the phone powerful, visually elegant and fun at the same time. Granted, you have to deal with Apple, a secretive and controlling company, but you can choose to not buy Apple, or jailbreak if you can't deal with it.
Regardless of public forum opinion, their sales numbers prove that people prefer this sort of OS on a phone, rather than a clunky/confusing interface that wastes time. People deal with that enough on their home computers. I'd rather have my mobile device work quickly every time. When I'm at an intersection and need quick directions before the light changes, the iPhone hasn't failed me yet.
I'd still argue that it's quite user friendly, tbh, especially with HTC Sense on top... but it seems like Google agree with you.
They've just snapped up one of the creators of Palm's WebOS and are said to be focusing on UI for the next release.
Never used WebOS personally, but I've heard it's the best of the lot in terms of design and usability.
You know what? Thats great that you guys enjoy your Evo 4G's and I can respect your opinions. The only issue I have is that I feel I know my way around ANY OS and it always irk's me when Android users claim the iPhone OS was made for "simple minded people." I'd assume that most of the users on here are Mac owners. Do you feel that by being a Mac owner that you are a "simple minded person?" Because I think its pretty obvious that Android is taking the Windows route on this one.