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Worth the BOLD print.

But this also isn't phone, tablet, or laptop. This is their first product in a completely new category. I'm sure if they had one size, one material, one band like the competition it would've went smoother, but give them a little credit for having as big of a launch as they have had. Especially in a market where a lot of people had doubts.
 
Just to clarify- I believe there's 38 different watch SKUs available.

In the U.S.- there's 36 phone SKU's for each flagship phone- 3 colors, 3 storage options, 4 different cellular carriers.

That's 72 configurations if you will between the 6 and 6+.

Not entirely. The Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile phones are identical inside. The Sprint is the same as the "Unlocked" and Global versions. So Apple can tell Foxconn to produce a bunch of each design and just put in SIM cards at the last step.
 
Sure people have a right to whine. Apple has set a precedent with virtually all launches to have enough supply on the first day to cover people ordering within the first hour or so, not just the first 2 minutes.
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they seem to be turning the tide to NOT having enough supply for launch day delivery. i ordered in the first few minutes of the 6+ preorder and i didn't get my phone until the 2nd wave.

one more bad launch and it's a habit...... apple needs to step up their game with preorders....
 
They've been touting this watch for months.

They setup a pre order two weeks before 'launch' day.

People who ordered within the first ten or five minutes aren't receiving a watch on launch day which is pathetic for a company the size of Apple. The most valuable company in the world can't deliver after months of planning and a two week lag between order and delivery. Not only that, they needed to put in a default two week delivery window in.

It's not only a dribble, it's a crappy dribble.

Enough with this "most valuable company in the world" garbage. If we spent al the money on every crazy idea in this forum that could be funded by the "most valuable company" we'd run out pretty quickly. Apple can't perform miracles.

Was this a spectacular launch? No, of course not. But was it a complete disaster? Of course not, either. Any company with a just in time manufacturing system will experience problems once in a while. Heck, even Samsung, whose vertical integration is vaunted, has experienced issues getting the Galaxy S6 Edge produced in the right quantities. I would not be surprised at all if they report at their next earnings call that they could have sold more S6 Edge if they could have produced them. Sound familiar?
 
Enough with this "most valuable company in the world" garbage. If we spent al the money on every crazy idea in this forum that could be funded by the "most valuable company" we'd run out pretty quickly. Apple can't perform miracles.

Was this a spectacular launch? No, of course not. But was it a complete disaster? Of course not, either. Any company with a just in time manufacturing system will experience problems once in a while. Heck, even Samsung, whose vertical integration is vaunted, has experienced issues getting the Galaxy S6 Edge produced in the right quantities. I would not be surprised at all if they report at their next earnings call that they could have sold more S6 Edge if they could have produced them. Sound familiar?

They showed us the watch in September. That's a long time.
 
they seem to be turning the tide to NOT having enough supply for launch day delivery. i ordered in the first few minutes of the 6+ preorder and i didn't get my phone until the 2nd wave.

one more bad launch and it's a habit...... apple needs to step up their game with preorders....

The issue with the 6/6+ was completely one of supply. Not even Foxconn and Quanta can ramp up that quickly. Apple sold almost 75 million iPhones in the final calendar quarter of 2014 after selling nearly 10 million the first weekend alone. That was nearly a 50% increase from 2013.
 
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They showed us the watch in September. That's a long time.

But it wasn't ready for production in September. We have no idea how many hardware changes, major or minor, they made between September and March. There is a difference between pre-production processes and mass production. And even if the hardware were finalized, no sane company is going to build up and hold inventory 7 months in advance.
 
But it wasn't ready for production in September. We have no idea how many hardware changes, major or minor, they made between September and March. There is a difference between pre-production processes and mass production. And even if the hardware were finalized, no sane company is going to build up and hold inventory 7 months in advance.

Something is fishy, and I'm not sure what it is. Personally I believe in the Fedex theory.

But Apple Watch 2 is already finished and ready. Apple Watch 3 is what they are working on now.

So yeah, they could've made enough watches. 2 million is not a lot for Apple. You're talking about a company that literally has transformed and redefined manufacturing as we know it.

(ducking before I hear for the millionth time how difficult and special and new a watch is for Apple)
 
Something is fishy, and I'm not sure what it is. Personally I believe in the Fedex theory.

But Apple Watch 2 is already finished and ready. Apple Watch 3 is what they are working on now.

So yeah, they could've made enough watches. 2 million is not a lot for Apple. You're talking about a company that literally has transformed and redefined manufacturing as we know it.

(ducking before I hear for the millionth time how difficult and special and new a watch is for Apple)

How do we know it's 2 million and not 5 million? Apple isn't releasing sales figures and all we have are guesses. And this is new. Apple has never used OLED screens before. They had to make a lot of tweaks to get the battery life acceptable. And they tried to reduce their reliance on Foxconn by going to Quanta. That last move is likely where the breakdown was.
 
Something is fishy, and I'm not sure what it is. Personally I believe in the Fedex theory.

But Apple Watch 2 is already finished and ready. Apple Watch 3 is what they are working on now.

So yeah, they could've made enough watches. 2 million is not a lot for Apple. You're talking about a company that literally has transformed and redefined manufacturing as we know it.

(ducking before I hear for the millionth time how difficult and special and new a watch is for Apple)

Wow you really think that Apple has already fully finished the second gen apple watch before the first gen is even released?

lol you really have lost it...
 
Not entirely. The Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile phones are identical inside. The Sprint is the same as the "Unlocked" and Global versions. So Apple can tell Foxconn to produce a bunch of each design and just put in SIM cards at the last step.

So you're saying that my unlocked ATT iPhone 6 can be torn to Verizon since I've had it unlocked?
 
Wow you really think that Apple has already fully finished the second gen apple watch before the first gen is even released?

lol you really have lost it...

I would give you the source, but you wouldn't believe it, so what's the point?

I'm confident in my knowledge to not argue about it.

You believe they are that close to market? Dude.
 
I'm willing to bet that there are a lot more unhappy people here than happy. And for good reason.

Most of the happy people aren't calling in unhappy because Apple delivered their watch at the time Apple said it could. People got themselves worked up. Apple gave accurate delivery dates. There is nothing they could do if people don't read the fine print and create unrealistic expectations in their brain.
 
I think it's a bit silly to get angry over a product that you don't have, don't need, and can live without for an extended period of time.

I just got off the phone with Apple and the lady told me they are getting hammered with unpleasant phone calls. So those who arbitrarily decided this was a wonderful launch might want to wait for all the facts first.
 
I get the feeling there's more to this than meets the eye. Apple has the success to prove they know exactly what they are doing.

Perhaps the method to the madness is to retrain the repeat Apple customers to expect something different going forward. By abandoning the prior launch protocol and changing things up, they're certain to have a purpose in mind.

In time we'll learn what Apples up to.
 
Sorry, for those of you saying this launch wasn't a complete disaster, you're wrong. People who stayed up late and placed an order exactly three minutes after product goes on sale NOT getting their product on launch day... meanwhile, people who order TWO WEEKS LATER get their product on launch day... that's a complete failure and disaster of order fulfillment. This is the worst product launch in Apple history by far.
 
You lost me at "I am getting my watch on launch day"

I'm not getting my watch until June, and I ordered by 12:02am.

So? That doesn't change the fact that Apple is selling far more of these devices than their critics thought they would. And if more people buy devices than they can make by launch day, that's not necessarily a bad thing.

People need to man up a bit and learn some patience if they're getting all torqued about not getting it instantly.

And this is coming from someone that camps out to get the newest iPhone on launch day every year -- in other words, I'm accustomed to getting the new device on launch day, but when I can't? I understand, and I wait. I'll get it soon enough.
 
Interesting - thanks for the info.

The new "unlocked" iPhone 6 will also accept a Sprint SIM. My guess is that next year Apple sells a single iPhone 6S variant worldwide.

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Sorry, for those of you saying this launch wasn't a complete disaster, you're wrong. People who stayed up late and placed an order exactly three minutes after product goes on sale NOT getting their product on launch day... meanwhile, people who order TWO WEEKS LATER get their product on launch day... that's a complete failure and disaster of order fulfillment. This is the worst product launch in Apple history by far.

But they were ordering different products. It's not like someone ordered a 38mm Sport with blue band 2 weeks ago and has to wait until June, while someone who ordered one yesterday is getting one tomorrow. They both are. As for other models, sure there might be some instances in which someone will wait a day or two longer, but if anything it appears that Apple managed to get some of their supply issues sorted, so lots of people in the 4/24-5/8 window and lots in later windows will likely get their Watches next week.
 
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