Is that actually the case? Not saying it is or isn't, I am genuinely curious as I have not seen any actual data that shows such a comparison.
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All iPads It's over, returned iPad Air (updated:re-purchased!) - due to constrained 1GB RAM
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Is that actually the case? Not saying it is or isn't, I am genuinely curious as I have not seen any actual data that shows such a comparison.
You're assuming the memory errors are due to low memory due to... low memory, and not a memory leak issue on iOS 7. I'm willing to be this is fixed pretty soonish.
This is a good point. maybe the crashing clears out cached data that's being held onto.
The assumption is that if the app uses 20%-30% more RAM, then the tasks it handles will also use more RAM. I think its true to some degree but maybe not a direct parallel to the app's needs. Its also hard to say because we don't know what apps and websites were used leading up to the crashes.
I think that iOS7 is more stable on 32Bit iPads, maybe because they had those devices around longer to develop on.
A macbook air can swap RAM to HD, a program on the macbook can use RAM + free HD space before it runs out. Try to limit Mac OSX to 1 GB and disable swap and ohhh look programs crash due to out of memory.
Photoshop can crash on 4GB of RAM, but not with 16GB. Hell, going through design school, I'd be working with a file and depending on if I was on a school computer with less RAM I'd cross my fingers and hope that a particular command didn't crash the app.
I opened 5 tabs in Safari and have the following apps open in the multitasking tray:
-Safari
-Google Search App
-App Store
-Find My Friends
-Starbucks
-Phone
-ESPN Fantasy Football
-Messages
-Scorecenter
-Numbers
-Calculator
-eBay
-Music
-Settings
-iTunes Store
This is on my iPhone 5S with iOS 7.0.4 and 64 bit A7.
I'm sitting here switching between apps and safari tabs at random. No crashes.
The iPhone is probably different due to the smaller apps requiring less RAM to run. I think the issue is iOS7 on 64 Bit iPads.
The Air is fast and nice but this Safari crashing to the home screen is happening way too often, for a web consumption device like the iPad, software bug or not enough ram, either way, it shouldn't have been released like this, it's just not the iPad experience we're all used to.
Hopefully they'll tidy this down on the software side sooner rather than later, no one wants to spend $20 bucks and have something that doesn't work like it's supposed to, let alone just under $800. (32gb, 4g model)
Think about it like this, all that speed you get with the air is negated when you have to re-open an app or reload the page, what's the point if it does it faster if it's the 2nd or 3rd or 4th time you have to do it.
I'd rather it was a little slower and just stopped crashing back to the home screen, for me it's at the point where it's just annoying. It'd be great if it didn't do it at all and was fast, like how it's supposed to be in the first place.
Hopefully they'll tidy this down on the software side sooner rather than later, no one wants to spend $20 bucks and have something that doesn't work like it's supposed to, let alone just under $800. (32gb, 4g model)
Think about it like this, all that speed you get with the air is negated when you have to re-open an app or reload the page, what's the point if it does it faster if it's the 2nd or 3rd or 4th time you have to do it.
I'd rather it was a little slower and just stopped crashing back to the home screen, for me it's at the point where it's just annoying. It'd be great if it didn't do it at all and was fast, like how it's supposed to be in the first place.
The iPad has 4 times as many pixels, it needs 4 times the memory to juggle graphics than the iPhone and it only has the same amount of memory as the iPhone. If the iPhone used 32MB to juggle graphics for an app, the iPad would need 128MB to handle the hires graphics.
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The crash list on my iPhone is longer than on my iPad rMini - granted I've had the iPhone longer and it came with 7.0.1 versus my rMini which came with 7.0.3 and instantly got 7.0.4.
To be quite honest, 7.0.4 seems to have worked out any crashing issues I had (which were minimal - especially given the overhaul iOS 7 was). My wife's iPhone 5 and iPad mini have had some issues, but even those have gotten better with 7.0.4.
It's funny how quickly some here want to completely dismiss a product or software. Apple releases bug fixes quicker than any software company I've encountered. Give it some time and iOS 7 will run like a dream - especially when devs get their apps to full 64 bit compatibility.
I mean after all - iOS 7 was a MAJOR software overhaul and it's been out for a grand total of 2 months.....
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Is this guy serious?
The crash list on my iPhone is longer than on my iPad rMini - granted I've had the iPhone longer and it came with 7.0.1 versus my rMini which came with 7.0.3 and instantly got 7.0.4.
To be quite honest, 7.0.4 seems to have worked out any crashing issues I had (which were minimal - especially given the overhaul iOS 7 was). My wife's iPhone 5 and iPad mini have had some issues, but even those have gotten better with 7.0.4.
It's funny how quickly some here want to completely dismiss a product or software. Apple releases bug fixes quicker than any software company I've encountered. Give it some time and iOS 7 will run like a dream - especially when devs get their apps to full 64 bit compatibility.
I mean after all - iOS 7 was a MAJOR software overhaul and it's been out for a grand total of 2 months.....
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Is this guy serious?
It did have a beta period and we are talking about a native web browser here. I'm sure they'll fix it up, but it just sucks at this point for people like the OP and myself I guess, who use safari to read web pages.
What else would you use Safari for?
Safari isn't what has crashed for me - if anything its random apps, likely those that haven't been updated to 64 bit.
To expect something (especially software) to be perfect after beta is naive and unfair. There isn't a piece of software anywhere in the world that doesn't experience bugs/issue from time to time. And Apple is as fast as anyone at resolving any issues.
Again - people need to relax.....goodness 6 years ago, smartphones were a niche product that only a few used with regularity. And it was only 3 years ago that the iPad was created.....
I'm not sure if its entitlement or just the desire to complain. At any rate, its stupid.
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According to the poster above you, those of us who haven't experienced safari crashes don't use safari for reading web pages.....
Your iPad Air hasn't been crashing due to low ram, those error messages are normal and are a result of multi tasking, and do not lead to ay crashes or issues. The browser crashes because iOS 7 is full of bugs. My iPhone 5S constantly crashes the browser without low ram messages.
As opposed to using Chrome or another browser to read web pages?
Yeah but you see the first iPad's safari didn't crash, I'm not saying it's inexcusable, I'm saying it's annoying. Apple is good, I'm sure they will fix this, I would hope native apps are ones that are tested extensively in beta, especially when moving to a new platform on a new architecture.
Yeah but you see the first iPad's safari didn't crash, I'm not saying it's inexcusable, I'm saying it's annoying. Apple is good, I'm sure they will fix this, I would hope native apps are ones that are tested extensively in beta, especially when moving to a new platform on a new architecture.
Ahh, yes that would make more sense.
My points still stand. I haven't experienced Safari crashing, guess I can't lend any insight to the thread.
Something can be tested extensively and still experience bugs from time to time. Unless you're saying Safari is unusable because it crashes so often? In which case I'd suggest a fresh install as that's not normal.
I agree. My iPhone 5 has been pretty dang solid, with only a couple of crashes. There may have been more happening int he background, but if I haven't noticed them I'm not going looking for them.
I keep five or six tabs open, and occasionally they reload which is fine because I would have had to do that to refresh the content anyway. Haven't put 7 on my Mini 1 because I like my jailbreak.
It's not unusable for me, as opposed to the OP who couldn't take it anymore, for me it's just annoying, I'm holding out faith they'll fix this thing up. I'd say my personal average is once a day during the week and a few times on a lazy Saturday type of situation where I'm on the iPad pretty relentlessly while lounging.
Hmm - well sorry to hear that. Like I said, no safari crashes here on either my 5S or rMini.
I'm sure 7.1 will continue ironing out any issues.
Some people can't help but have to vote this up.
Well, what better than a nice little insult against all Apple users, but then sadly you give the game away. You are mixing up headlines with complaints about the new iPad Mini while claiming that you returned an iPad Air. And your explanation that 1 GB RAM isn't enough for a 64 bit processor is nonsense, as everyone knows. Quite clever, but not clever enough.
