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Seems this site is crashing with a iPad Airs

ha, jeez - i can't imagine why. look at that site - it's a news dump that goes on forever with pictures for almost every story. that spinning cube thing alone is probably crashing your device.

that speaks to poor web-design or mobile browser implementation as much as to poor iOS handling.

Chrome on my Droid stutters with that sight as well.
 
They don't know how good it is...compalining about 1GB of RAM. We used to be happy with 640K.

And who started with the crashing because of lack of RAM crap? It is possible to program an OS so that it doesn't crash when RAM is low. My point is, if it crash, it is a bug, and can be fixed in future software releases.

This low ram thing is not an issue. The OS is smart enough to deal with it.
 
Thats because it swap RAM to HD and back. Your iPad doesn't do that. When memory gets low, it ask applications to release memory. If still low, it nukes apps.

Why cant Apple make the iPad doing that?
Should be awesome if the webpages was stored at the "hdd" so you dont need to refresh and it doesnt take RAM space
 
Hi OP,

I am curious... Are you browsing 5 Safari tabs with different porn sites? It could explain why Safari crashed? Apple might find porn sites very disgusting and offended? :apple:
 
Data structures will properly also be boundary aligned.

class X {
byte A;
long B;
byte C;
};

which means each of the entries in the class eat 8 bytes of memory each.

Which is why Apple recommend putting the largest variables first for 64-bit:

class X {
long B;
short A;
short C;
};

Such a construct would use 8 bytes in 32-bit and 12-bytes in 64-bit.

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Not really, it doesn't matter what size the DWG file is. I've tried to open large and small files and get the same memory error. This is in addition to Safari crashes although I think a lot of that has to do with iOS 7 and inefficient/premature design.

If you get these independent on the file size, I would like to argue that this is a software bug with the app or with iOS 7.

What is the exact memory error message you get?
 
You really don't know how ram works.
BTW, you realise that ipad 4 has 1gb too?

Go buy an android tablet, i'm sure you'll be happier with >1GB ram and phone apps.

The iPad Air is a 64bit device with 999Mb of DDR3 RAM. Due to the increase in RAM footprint over all 64bit processes, the iPad Airs acts like a 666Mb 32bit device. Backwards step if you ask me.

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This low ram thing is not an issue. The OS is smart enough to deal with it.

But what is the point in buying a device that will most likely be awful in one years time with iOS 8. If you wait a year for 2Gb of RAM, you will get more than the year you waited out of it.
 
I recently passed my original mini down to my son when I picked up the rMini on launch day. He plays more games than I do - some of which require significant system resources. No crashes or slow downs that I have been able to see with .5 GB ram - although the smaller pixel count makes this a bit easier perhaps.

I have not experienced any crashes with the rMini (mine is 16GB wifi) and I have run everything possible since receiving it. Also - opening multiple tabs in Safari has never crashed it yet. Time will tell, I guess.

I have been very pleased with the screen quality and overall performance so far - also battery life is impressive given the increased screen resolution demands. It will be interesting to what software updates are in the pipeline.
 
Im dying to see how this all plays out. Im an Air owner and so far am very pleased with how my device works. I have had a few low memory logs in my diag data and it was directly caused by HD Pinball which is not optimized for iOS 7. Thats the only app or time Ive seen anything in my logs related to memory. No crashing, just that low-mem entry. The rest of the diag data says something about pLists and stuff. Whatever. ????

Im a Safari user and do have 2-3 tabs open at once. Never had a problem. Perhaps Im just not hitting the sites that cause this issue? I dunno.... why does it only seem to affect certain people and there isnt much rhyme or reason to the users it affects either?

The data is ugly on this issue, it seems completely random/arbitrary.

** Grabs bag of popcorn to watch this unfold ** :)
 
A lot of this has to do with iOS7, that is obvious. I recall my iPad2 safari crashing twice in the year+ that I've owned it prior to iOS7. Now the thing crashes every other day. And there are pages of certain websites/forums, that can crash it on every load.

IMHO - iOS7 is obviously flawed, compared to iOS6.

Again, people are looking for Apple to fix it in 7.1, 7.1.1, 7.2, etc... but Apple's past tells us that as long as the product sells, they are less inclined to fix this issue, as it's obviously not a barrier to maximum profit.
 
A lot of this has to do with iOS7, that is obvious. I recall my iPad2 safari crashing twice in the year+ that I've owned it prior to iOS7. Now the thing crashes every other day. And there are pages of certain websites/forums, that can crash it on every load.

IMHO - iOS7 is obviously flawed, compared to iOS6.

Again, people are looking for Apple to fix it in 7.1, 7.1.1, 7.2, etc... but Apple's past tells us that as long as the product sells, they are less inclined to fix this issue, as it's obviously not a barrier to maximum profit.

It might do some harm in ruining their whole "software/hardware working in harmony" sales pitch. Reputation is a big deal for Apple. That's why people pay a premium for their products.
 
It might do some harm in ruining their whole "software/hardware working in harmony" sales pitch. Reputation is a big deal for Apple. That's why people pay a premium for their products.
They have left consumers high and dry in the past. No reason to think they won't again, provided the units keep on flying off the shelf.
 
That's what you're supposed to do. Vote with your wallet instead of complaining that the product isn't what you hoped it would be.

I returned my iPhone 4 over antenna issues, and just waited for the 4S.

I agree. I returned both of the iPad Airs I tried for WiFi and speaker issues (although I was hassled for returning the latter despite it being the same day I bought that Air.)

I am definitely going to wait it out.
 
Ok call me a fickle a--hole now but I went to apple retail told them about the previous problems I had with the crashing ipad air. They talked to the manager came back and offered me a 5% discount for my troubles. I said no thank you but then I spent a good deal playing with the demo ipad airs and they didn't crash like mine did. So I bit the offer and bought another ipad air 32GB!

Before doing this I actually tried out all the competitions devices but ultimately came back to this ipad air yet again. I will reserve my hate towards apple and give them a scone chance to resolve these issues but so far perhaps it was a defective unit I bought because this one has zero issues. Yes it still crashes with low memory logs and occasional springboard apple reboot logo type crash but I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and see how much iOS 7.1 improves things.
 
Ok call me a fickle a--hole now but I went to apple retail told them about the previous problems I had with the crashing ipad air. They talked to the manager came back and offered me a 5% discount for my troubles. I said no thank you but then I spent a good deal playing with the demo ipad airs and they didn't crash like mine did. So I bit the offer and bought another ipad air 32GB!

Before doing this I actually tried out all the competitions devices but ultimately came back to this ipad air yet again. I will reserve my hate towards apple and give them a scone chance to resolve these issues but so far perhaps it was a defective unit I bought because this one has zero issues. Yes it still crashes with low memory logs and occasional springboard apple reboot logo type crash but I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and see how much iOS 7.1 improves things.

They did a recent update and mine has done it far less. It wasn't horrible for me in the 1st place, but definitely a difference from iOS6.
 
Ok call me a fickle a--hole now but I went to apple retail told them about the previous problems I had with the crashing ipad air. They talked to the manager came back and offered me a 5% discount for my troubles. I said no thank you but then I spent a good deal playing with the demo ipad airs and they didn't crash like mine did. So I bit the offer and bought another ipad air 32GB!

Before doing this I actually tried out all the competitions devices but ultimately came back to this ipad air yet again. I will reserve my hate towards apple and give them a scone chance to resolve these issues but so far perhaps it was a defective unit I bought because this one has zero issues. Yes it still crashes with low memory logs and occasional springboard apple reboot logo type crash but I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and see how much iOS 7.1 improves things.

At least you realized you made a mistake and purchased another one.:D
 
Welcome back! I also feel the iPad is the best tablet around despite some of it's hardware shortcomings. Hope this one works out for you fickle a--hole :p
 
Right now you really can't beat Apple's tablets. They're not perfect but they're definitely the best tablets on the market. I'm no Apple fanboy, in fact I've had a lot of bad experiences supporting their equipment in the enterprise environment but that's another story for a different day.
 
I have had my Air for around two weeks now and the constant crashing has been getting worse. Safari often crashes with as little as two tabs open. Other apps are crashing as well. Last night my wife wanted to show me something on Pinterest and shortly after opening the app it crashed hard and the iPad rebooted (not just closed the app). She said it has been doing this often and she uses it more than I do.

Another thing to note is when I installed 7.0.4 the iPad froze after reboot. I had to do a hard reset to bring it back to life. I'm beyond frustrated at this point. I bought this mainly for my wife and she would rather just use her phone because of the frequency of these crashes. Guess I'll be returning it this weekend.
 
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