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It's Apple base media player, how is this not Apple's fault. With that being said, I only pay 49.99 for a 3M DSL connection, and they have a DSL lite connection for like 24.99. I think it's time for eveyone to make the DSL jump, but do plenty of complaining, so we can get these prices down even more!
FelixDerKater said:
Dialup users are not the target market of iTMS. It is not the fault of Apple that you have dialup. Simple economics say that you upgrade your connection and pay the difference for cost vs. speed.
 
FelixDerKater said:
Dialup users are not the target market of iTMS. It is not the fault of Apple that you have dialup.
Sure isn't. I always blame my ISP for that, especially for the time in which they advertised high speed connections, even when I am too far away to get high-speed.

Oh, and one hour to download, not 15 as mentioned on the first page.

xy14, I advise you to post your concerns either in the Software forum, or over at thetechpub before this thread turns into a speed-post war like almost every damn thread in the News discussion section.
 
FelixDerKater said:
Dialup users are not the target market of iTMS.

So what? iTMS is not the only thing i*TUNES* offers, and iTMS happens to have absolutely nothing to do with this upgrade--- it's an AirTunes enabler, which dialup users can use if they wish.

That said, dialup is indeed on its way out, and is entirely inadequate for modern internet usage, if you want to download software or multimedia. Jump on the broadbandwagon... you'll never go back. :D

Broadbandwagon is a registered trademark of azdude. (who's proud of accidentally coming up with it). :D :D

EDIT: Google tells me there is prior art for the term Broadbandwagon. Darn. I thought I was clever.
 
valve83 said:
I'm not sure if this is new, but it's listed that you can convert files from WMA to other formats now. Interesting...

yup, since 4.5 -- it's a cool feature, especially for previous Windows Media Player users (on Windows)
 
It's fairly absurd to say that dialup is going away. It's cheaper, and a HUGE number of users don't wish to part with $100 to $200 more per year to do email faster. It's also the ONLY option for MANY locations. And lastly, it's the only universal option when traveling with a laptop--a fairly common device :)

iTMS IS targetted at modem users--at ALL users. It has Prefs features (preview downloading) meant just for modem users.

And on my modem, I can get a song in 3x the time it takes to play it. I can get multiple albums in a night, ready in the morning. It's perfectly usable, and I'm very pleased with spending $9/month instead of $35. Not to mention, no longer dealing with the awful service from my (former) broadband provider.

And 10 MB isn't THAT bad on modem anyway. I just downloaded a $200 MB add-on for Unreal Tournament 2004... so 10 MB is nothing :) Especially since Software Update resumes downloads.
 
Unproductive all week!

I don't know about you guys but since Monday morning, I have not been productive all this week with all the new announcements coming from Cupertino HQs. Apple HAS TO STOP releasing new, innovative new products for what seems every day!!

There goes today! :mad:
 
all these updates are so full of crap. They havent fixed the one thing that annoys so many people and thats the ability to have tracks play continously. Thumbs down to apple for this.
 
azdude said:
That said, dialup is indeed on its way out, and is entirely inadequate for modern internet usage, if you want to download software or multimedia. Jump on the broadbandwagon... you'll never go back. :D

Broadbandwagon is a registered trademark of azdude. (who's proud of accidentally coming up with it). :D :D

I can't already! (Pet peeve alert) I'm about 10 miles away from whatever it is the ethernet line is connected to, other than my computer, of course. And, for high speed, the maximum wire distance is 3 miles.

And dial-up users can do a lot of things that high-speed users can do, as well. Some of my more recent downloads - using 28.8K - include over 160MB of video and 55MB of audio (not music tracks)...both of which certainly took a while, but can be downloaded, for Pete's sake. If dial-up goes out, then so do about 25 million people in the U.S.A. alone that won't have any way to connect to the internet altogether. (Satellite is too expensive, right now, and I don't like the "interference" of latency.)

Wow, already we have dial-up discussions going about iTunes. Man, all the dial-up complaining should be saved for OS X updates, which are about 30 to 50MB.


Mitthrawnuruodo said:
From Apple's site:
* Save to AAC from unprotected WMA (Windows only)
Nothing new. That's a 4.5 feature.
 
Since Monday only?

Sir_Giggles said:
I don't know about you guys but since Monday morning, I have not been productive all this week with all the new announcements coming from Cupertino HQs. Apple HAS TO STOP releasing new, innovative new products for what seems every day!!

There goes today! :mad:

GOD!!! This kind of sites drive me nuts... :D , everytime I want to update one my macs I come here and wait for news...and always end buying a new device... :D ...

PB 12" rev a, eMac 1GHZ, iBook 1 GHz, iSight, 2 iPods, AEBS... and the software list is even longer ;) , I wouldn't want to look forward to WWDC... but I can't :) :D

did I say that all happened within a year? :eek:

Back to topic: Have to wait until July to say something about iTunes 4.6 ... Airport express ... Here I go...
 
what? play contiuously...in what way does iTunes not play continuously!?

Parikh1234 said:
all these updates are so full of crap. They havent fixed the one thing that annoys so many people and thats the ability to have tracks play continously. Thumbs down to apple for this.
 
boy boy boy =] complain complain complain.

Dial-up isn't on it's way out, but I certainly wouldn't be complaining about update size if I was on dial-up and was unhappy with a 10mb upgrade. That's the kind of reason that you:

a) get broadband and be able to download it quicker
b) grit your teeth if it isn't available in your area / you don't want to pay extra, find a good download manager that has resume and let it run until it's finished.

AirTunes is neat and all, it's not very conducive to hi-fi audio though. I have a sound system that runs off an external USB A/D converter that obviously can't be used with AirTunes. Apple keeps making all these great music formats and music add-ons, but when it comes to the actual transfer to sound, it seems like apple has lots of barriers to hi-fi. Ah well.. it's not that big a deal.

I want to see something mildly more proprietary (watches as he's mauled by open-source people). I want something that has multiple analog outputs that recieves a stream from coreaudio on my mac. Sorta like a connection middleman to allow hi-fi. However they want to do it, I want AirTunes in a 24-bit possibly 96kHz exportable format to RCA, TRS, etc.. connections.

Speakers ARE up for sale now btw.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3728014130
 
I really like the new iTunes! It's everything I expected and more. I can't wait to see what Apple has got up their sleeves for version 4.61!
 
"iTunes 4.6 includes support for playing your music wirelessly using AirPort Express with AirTunes. It also includes a number of other minor enhancements."

Anyone see the "other minor enhancements"? I haven't noticed any. The one thing I wanted (the ability to burn disk x of a multidisk burn in case one gets scratched, ruined, etc. - useful when burning audiobooks) isn't there (not that I expected it).

It's a nice update, but for the 8MB, I must be missing something besides the AirTunes enhancement.
 
freddiecable said:
what? play contiuously...in what way does iTunes not play continuously!?

He's talking about iTunes not being good at playing Pink Floyd albums or Grateful Dead albums. No real easy way to glue a group of songs together as one big continuous song, without actually merging the tracks together.

Crossfading is good, but it would be nice to be able to disable crossfading at the end/beginning of a song. I feedback'd that to apple a while back.
 
I have dial-up at home, so doing much more than downloading music from iTunes is a chore. Usually if it's a big update I'll walk across the street and plug into my neighbors DSL line :)

Thankfully though I'm getting this download from work. Yee haw
 
jsw said:
...
Anyone see the "other minor enhancements"? I haven't noticed any. The one thing I wanted (the ability to burn disk x of a multidisk burn in case one gets scratched, ruined, etc. - usefule when burning audiobooks) isn't there (not that I expected it).
...
Have you filed a suggestion suggestion/feedback with Apple?

The more people who suggest something, the more Apple will think about adding that feature. That presumes that the suggestion is a valid one. In my opinion your suggestion is valid.
 
runeasgar said:
AirTunes is neat and all, it's not very conducive to hi-fi audio though.

I must be misunderstanding. AirTunes takes the decoded AAC audio, compresses it with Apple Lossless, and pipes it over AirPort to the Express unit, which decodes it and plays it digitally via the optical port.

What more are you hoping for, exactly?
 
jaredbbauer said:
I love it when Apple cracks down on all of those little pirates out there!

GO APPLE GO!
It's sad to say to you, but my my hymn tunes play with no problem. And what's wrong with being a little bit of a pirate!!! Arrrrh. I get what I can when I can.
 
Bear said:
Have you filed a suggestion suggestion/feedback with Apple?

The more people who suggest something, the more Apple will think about adding that feature. That presumes that the suggestion is a valid one. In my opinion your suggestion is valid.

I filed it. I understand that they can only implement a limited subset of the requested features, but I'd love to see this one. I think they're not doing it just so I'll get an iPod for travel instead of using my CD player. :)
 
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