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iTunes 4.6 Now Available

jeffgarden said:
If you used hymn to remove DRM from songs from iTMS they will NOT PLAY in the new iTunes 4.6 !!!
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Mine play fine. However, I must note that I used playfair before it became hymn.
 
I must be misunderstanding. AirTunes takes the decoded AAC audio, compresses it with Apple Lossless, and pipes it over AirPort to the Express unit, which decodes it and plays it digitally via the optical port.

What more are you hoping for, exactly?
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why, uncompressed, 256 KHz, 64-bit, 360.1 surround (one speaker at every degree, plus the sub.) audio, of course! WHY HASN'T APPLE SUPPORTED THIS YET?!?! SCREW THEM!

lol
 
g4cubed said:
It's sad to say to you, but my my hymn tunes play with no problem. And what's wrong with being a little bit of a pirate!!! Arrrrh. I get what I can when I can.
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My play fine too and It's not piracy I paid for them I just like to be DRM free for playing in ANY AAC capable player and to play under Linux. So i take offence at being called a pirate I am not pirating what i purchased!
 
I can't wait till the AirPort Expresses are released and someone reverse engineers the protocol. Then we'll see software that behaves like an APE and we'll be able to send music all over the place, and not just form within iTunes.

I know sharing seems to take care of this, but you might want to set up one computer to grab a feed from another.
 
Jeff Harrell said:
I must be misunderstanding. AirTunes takes the decoded AAC audio, compresses it with Apple Lossless, and pipes it over AirPort to the Express unit, which decodes it and plays it digitally via the optical port.

What more are you hoping for, exactly?
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1) All I see on airtunes is a 1/8th out jack. That's it. No optical. Also, I would have to have an exceedingly nice A/D to have an optical port on it (which is practically top of the line for digital).
2) The express unit is not a high quality A/D converter and neither is the soundcard in your computer.
3) The airport express doesn't 'play' anything, it just sends out an analog signal that was derived from a 16-bit 48kHz sample.

My signal goes from my USB port to an m-audio audiophile usb powered A/D converter that outputs an analog signal from either TRS or RCA to my speakers. Tell me how I'm going to do that with AirTunes. Tell me how I'm even going to reproduce that quality on AirTunes, much less in the same way that I'm doing it now.
 
MightyB said:
(i think it may be time for a new "signature rule" for the boards...)

(by the way, I agree with the sig...just annoying)
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I agree, I don't want to be living in Europe, or Australia, or where ever and see somthing like this. When it gets closer to the poll time I'll change my sig too. (I like the one I have now :D )


And to the people who are complaning about the 10 MB download: If you want to download all the latest updates, apps, ect. GET BROADBAND!!!

If you don't want to download *gasp* 10 MB, then don't.
 
nagromme said:
And lastly, it's the only universal option when traveling with a laptop--a fairly common device :)
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I find WAY more ethernet connections than dialup and beyond that...

Ever heard of WiFi? It's going to take both of them down.
 
hear hear

MightyB said:
(i think it may be time for a new "signature rule" for the boards...)

(by the way, I agree with the sig...just annoying)
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I just joined recently, but long time reader, and I have to agree with you. This is not a political area. I get bombarded with this crap everywhere else. I come here to hear and talk apple :D not politics. :mad:
 
I notice that now, thanks. However, it still doesn't solve the problem. =] Does me no good to have a high quality digital optical signal if it's coming from a 16-bit 48kHz sample. I might as well throw my $250 A/D converter in the trash and lose a huge portion of my clarity if I want to use AirTunes.

a note: previous mistake, my audiophile doesn't have TRS out, it has S/PDIF coax out. Forgot the TRS is only input (i never use it anyway).
 
AirTunes need Panther!?!

Looks like I won't be able to use AirTunes with my iBook G3 (10.2.8) until I can afford to upgrade to Panther :(

In the Audio Panel of iTunes 4.6 Preferences:
"AirTunes support requires Mac OS X 10.3 or later"

But at the bottom of http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/airtunes.html it only says:
"AirTunes requires iTunes 4.6 or later."
 
runeasgar said:
I notice that now, thanks. However, it still doesn't solve the problem. =] Does me no good to have a high quality digital optical signal if it's coming from a 16-bit 48kHz sample. I might as well throw my $250 A/D converter in the trash and lose a huge portion of my clarity if I want to use AirTunes.
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Huh? Yes you wouldn't need the expensive A/D converter, but you would gain audio quality, not loose it, because even a good A/D is not as good as not A/D at all.

(and sorry for my new sig if you find it annoying, but i don't want to just see dumb bush sigs. there probably should be a rule)
 
Easy to say, but broadband is not available everywhere, dial-up is some people's ONLY choice.


FelixDerKater said:
Dialup users are not the target market of iTMS. It is not the fault of Apple that you have dialup. Simple economics say that you upgrade your connection and pay the difference for cost vs. speed.
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jsw said:
FYI, the jack also serves as an optical out.
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Yeah, but I'm curious if this adapter they refer to converts the signal or what. It says it supports both digital and analog.

EDIT: Found that you can connect powered speakers to the jack, so it must be analog.
 
NuPowerbook said:
Yay, no reboot required :).
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probably no one cares about this, but you don't have to reboot in XP, but you do in windows 2000. I know I know ... but I also install iTunes at work. My mac didn't require a reboot. :)
 
runeasgar said:
1) All I see on airtunes is a 1/8th out jack. That's it. No optical.
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It's a mini optical jack, as I'm sure you've been informed by about a hundred other people by now.

runeasgar said:
Tell me how I'm going to do that with AirTunes. Tell me how I'm even going to reproduce that quality on AirTunes, much less in the same way that I'm doing it now.
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Well, I dunno, but you could probably start by being a little less of a spaz about the whole thing. And reading the specs before you climb on the internet to register your disgust throughout the world. That'd help too.
 
jeffgarden said:
If you used hymn to remove DRM from songs from iTMS they will NOT PLAY in the new iTunes 4.6 !!!
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Mine still work fine in iTunes 4.6, although I use the old version of PlayFair which works fine with FairPlay 2 after you've used Hymn with it once.
 
spankalee said:
Huh? Yes you wouldn't need the expensive A/D converter, but you would gain audio quality, not loose it, because even a good A/D is not as good as not A/D at all.

(and sorry for my new sig if you find it annoying, but i don't want to just see dumb bush sigs. there probably should be a rule)
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I don't think you can gain quality that is already lost. Audio experts can flame me at will...
 
runeasgar said:
I notice that now, thanks. However, it still doesn't solve the problem. =] Does me no good to have a high quality digital optical signal if it's coming from a 16-bit 48kHz sample. I might as well throw my $250 A/D converter in the trash and lose a huge portion of my clarity if I want to use AirTunes.

a note: previous mistake, my audiophile doesn't have TRS out, it has S/PDIF coax out. Forgot the TRS is only input (i never use it anyway).
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You could actually rip your CD's in Apple's Lossless format.
Then you would lose NO quality from the actual recording on the CD going from iTunes, to Airport Express, to optical out, to optical in on your receiver.
 
Jeff Harrell said:
It's a mini optical jack, as I'm sure you've been informed by about a hundred other people by now.



Well, I dunno, but you could probably start by being a little less of a spaz about the whole thing. And reading the specs before you climb on the internet to register your disgust throughout the world. That'd help too.
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It's not a digital jack because the jack supports standard powered speakers. It is similar to the headphones jack on the iPod or other portable device.
 
nagromme said:
It's fairly absurd to say that dialup is going away. It's cheaper, and a HUGE number of users don't wish to part with $100 to $200 more per year to do email faster. It's also the ONLY option for MANY locations. And lastly, it's the only universal option when traveling with a laptop--a fairly common device :)
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You can also get your Apple updates downloaded for free at your nearby Apple store. I saw someone getting their updates from the Genius Bar.

I am the exact opposite from you. I save hundreds of dollars a year by switching to Broadband Extreme. I watch movies and view music videos and download music all the time from iTunes. Since I don't pay for my video iChat sessions it had a huge effect on my long distance. I also download game demos and realized that the game wasn't any good so I saved money from buying the retail version. And I don't have to deal with the cost of 2 phone lines since I am online for hours on end.

It's nice there are plans available for people that just want email and for people that do tons of stuff online.
 
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