Originally posted by arn
no, in my opinion: listener loans, itunes 5 etc... were simply wrong. You can't fit them into anything that came out.
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Originally posted by jbtule
Get a partial refund and then restore your song from your backup copy.
I doubt there is a foolproof way to solve the technical issue (same with the currently licensing), but I think it could be made to work for most customers most of the time. For example, iTunes and the ITMS could know which songs you no longer own, and anytime you connect to the store or your iPod they can synchronize their information and act accordingly. I understand Macco's point. The reason I brought up the idea, however, is that letting you sell back music is similar in principal to letting you rent music. The only difference to the user is whether you decide ahead of time to keep it for only a certain amount of time or plays, or you decide that later.Originally posted by Macco
The problem with this analogy is that the CD stores buy back the CDs and then sell them to new customers, thus making money. A purely electronical store, such as the iTMS, sells content that is infinitely reproducible. Therefore, it wouldn't benefit at all from buying back your "used" music, unless Apple could somehow work out a way in which the record companies would give money back to Apple for every return... but I doubt that this would work very well. Especially considering that it would be hard to validate that you had gotten rid of this music from all of the iPods and other computers you transfered it to, in addition the CDs you might have burned it to.
Originally posted by Cochrane
Another thing: We're due to have 2-Button Mice from Apple any time soon. Because, when someone asked Apple (it was on page 2, but that does not seem to be in the archives) about 2-Button mice they responded: When Steve Jobs leaves the company or hell freezes over. Now, Steve is still there, but hell froze over as Apple claims itself big on it's website. OK, that's maybe not that serious, but an interesting thought.
Originally posted by arn
don't people read the thread they are posting in?
https://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/10/20031019203845.shtml
Dear User B,
Your friend, User A, would like you to hear this song. Click the link below to download a time-limited copy of this song, in pristine quality. You can listen to this song five times*. If you try to listen to the song a sixth time, you will be taken to the iTunes Music Store entry for that song. If you like it, we hope you consider purchasing this song.
Song Title (itms://song.aac)
*Loaned songs cannot be burned to a CD.
Originally posted by Archmage
I was imagining listener loans to be more like this:
1) User A has Song 1 (that he bought with the iTMS) and wants User B, three states over, to listen to it.
2) User A chooses Song 1 in his library and clicks "Loan to Friend". He enters in his friend's email address/apple ID.
3) At Apple, an email is generated stating something like:
4) User B clicks the link in the email he got from Apple and the iTunes Music Store launches. He clicks the "Download Now" link.
5) User B enjoys said song and decides to buy it.
User A is happy; User B is happy; Apple is happy.
What more could you ask for?
Man, talk about looking the gift horse in the mouth. Thirty seconds might be better if it was a minute, but it's 30 seconds more than Apple could've done. 300,000 songs... that's a lot of work to get us a 30 second preview (complete with fade-in/outs)Originally posted by achmafooma
I might buy a song if the 30 second preview sounds like a song I could love. I will DEFINITELY buy a song if I hear the whole thing and love it.
Originally posted by QFace
i like downloading songs on Kazaa better... it's free
Don't feed the PC trolls!Originally posted by pjtro2
I'm sure the artists who worked hard to bring you that music would beg to differ.
Originally posted by MattG
Don't feed the PC trolls!
Originally posted by Doctor Q
How about allowing people to sell "used" tunes or albums back to the Apple Store for a partial refund, as brick and mortar stores allow with audio CDs? The songs you return would be deauthorized and you get a credit that you can apply to new purchases.
Sorry. Your reverse psychology won't work with me, jettredmont. I'll keep my Abba album thank you very much.Originally posted by jettredmont
Just as there is no feasible way to sell your copy of Abba's Greatest Hits to a gullible sucker, there's also no way to sell it back to iTMS.
Anyone singing ABBA anywhere is singing it too loud.Originally posted by Doctor Q
(Doctor Q walks down the street singing "You are the Dancing Queen, young and sweet, only seventeen..." way too loudly for somebody in a public place.)