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Couldn't they wait till Tuesday, take the store down for 3 hours before springing this on us? God knows, those of us waiting for the MBP update could use some more misery!
 
No. They already have the content in HD so they wouldnt be losing money by offering it to computers, they would only be making money. And why would people using high resolution computer screens rather watch a DVD quality movie instead of an HD quality one? That makes absolutely no sense and doesnt explain HD trailers, if anything they should drop SD movies and only offer HD for computers. I will NEVER pay money to watch "dvd quality" video on my 20" lcd, standard def is appalling on a high def display that cant upscale. Im sure the real and probably only reason was as pointed out by milo, legal HD movies require HDMI. Macs have no HDMI or the required DRM and the MPAA nazis probably dont like that fact.

I agree, there are plenty of things I would watch on my computer even though I have a HD TV on ATV in the great room. However, I'm pretty sure in a year or so it will be all 720p minimum on iTunes. I was watching the HD NASA iTunes podcasts (Podcast HD section) on my new 30" cinema display (2560 x 1600) last night and it looks awesome from 2 feet away. Also, as I work from home, I'd certainly prefer to watch the trailers at my computer whilst deciding what to watch on ATV later. SDs' days are seriously numbered and R.I.P. I say :)
 
No. They already have the content in HD so they wouldnt be losing money by offering it to computers, they would only be making money. And why would people using high resolution computer screens rather watch a DVD quality movie instead of an HD quality one? That makes absolutely no sense and doesnt explain HD trailers, if anything they should drop SD movies and only offer HD for computers. I will NEVER pay money to watch "dvd quality" video on my 20" lcd, standard def is appalling on a high def display that cant upscale. Im sure the real and probably only reason was as pointed out by milo, legal HD movies require HDMI. Macs have no HDMI or the required DRM and the MPAA nazis probably dont like that fact.


Keep telling yourself that. It would not surprise me if you can't get the content on the your computer because of piracy concerns. But most people don't even know if they have an HD capable monitor. YOU may want to watch HD video on your 20" lcd, but I guarantee you most don't even know or care because watching video on a small computer screen is not as good an experience as on a TV. Don't you think it is more likely that Apple can't handle the extra bandwidth consumed by offering HD to computers? Or that the extra bandwidth for HD to computers wouldn't be cost effective? Or that they want to drive AppleTV sales? Or there is no demand for it besides from technophiles?
 
I agree, there are plenty of things I would watch on my computer even though I have a HD TV on ATV in the great room. However, I'm pretty sure in a year or so it will be all 720p minimum on iTunes. I was watching the HD NASA iTunes podcasts (Podcast HD section) on my new 30" cinema display (2560 x 1600) last night and it looks awesome from 2 feet away. Also, as I work from home, I'd certainly prefer to watch the trailers at my computer whilst deciding what to watch on ATV later. SDs' days are seriously numbered and R.I.P. I say :)

Yeah, you and about 10 other people. Again, I am not saying it is not possible that the studios forced their hands here, but Apple has some motivation here as well. What happens when people who don't know what they are doing download HD content to their PCs and then complain that it looks like crap because they don't have their monitor configured properly, or they don't have an HD capable monitor in the first place? Face it, the living room is where this is at...and where it should be.
 
What happens when people who don't know what they are doing download HD content to their PCs and then complain that it looks like crap because they don't have their monitor configured properly, or they don't have an HD capable monitor in the first place? Face it, the living room is where this is at...and where it should be.

iTunes could ask the OS for the current screen resolution and colors setting and only give the choice of HD downloads to people who have a good enough monitor. It could also run a video test to see if the computer can handle the decoding.

However, I also think that it must be about limited bandwidth (especially in the USA), wanting to push :apple:TV sales and/or the lack of DRM between the computer and the display (i.e. MPAA requirement).

There is too many variables to take into account, aside from the other details we may not even know about.
 
I still think the whole rental thing is useless until they offer films in 1080p and don't require you to have an AppleTV. Not allowing HD rentals on your computer is crap.

bla bla bla, 1080p, bla bla bla. And then when UHDTV comes out, you'll think 1080p is useless and the cycle continues...
 
If a 720p movie is 4.5 GB then a 1080p one will be close to 20GB im not sure about you but most of my friends in the USA have less than 5Mb connection thats a lot of data to be shoved down a pipe just for a little extra resolution what did you do when VHS was around?, refuse to watch movies cos they were 240i ?

LOL! I myself only started watching movies when DVDs came out. I REFUSED to watch VHS tapes because of the quality!!!!
 
These $0.99 weekly specials are pretty slick, if I purchase it via iTunes on my iMac, how can I transfer the movie to be watched on my AppleTV - or do I need to do anything - would it just show up in my rented movies on the AppleTV?

Thanks
 
Good eyes and you are right. They polished the icons a bit.

OK, before and after pictures then. :D You should see 7.6 on the left, 7.6.1 on the right.

That is quite the subtle difference to have noticed without the side-by-side.
 

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Yeah, you and about 10 other people. Again, I am not saying it is not possible that the studios forced their hands here, but Apple has some motivation here as well. What happens when people who don't know what they are doing download HD content to their PCs and then complain that it looks like crap because they don't have their monitor configured properly, or they don't have an HD capable monitor in the first place? Face it, the living room is where this is at...and where it should be.

Pretty much all CRT monitors made after 1995 or so are capable of displaying HD.

As for LCD montiors, even my el-cheapo MacBook has a native resolution of 1280x800. It can handle 720p just fine.

More to the point, I already have a Mac mini in my living room, and apart from a higher cost and the lack of the :apple:TV software, it's a superior solution to :apple:TV in every way.

With my Mac mini and a simple DVI-HDMI cable, I can:
Play DVDs
Play archived DVD images
Play media files off the Internet
Play music with iTunes
Watch & record free over-the-air HDTV using EyeTV
Browse the web on my HDTV screen
Dual-boot to Windows and play City of Heroes

All on a 119" projection screen, with 5.1 surround sound.

The :apple:TV adds absolutely NOTHING to my home theater experience... except for the fact that Apple won't let me rent their HD content.

I ain't paying $200 just so I can rent movies from them.
 
next Tuesday

Couldn't they wait till Tuesday, take the store down for 3 hours before springing this on us? God knows, those of us waiting for the MBP update could use some more misery!

Don't worry, next Tuesday will be Time Capsule. They still need to officially release it since it says "ships in February".

No MBP for you!!!!
 
I think I heard somewhere on these forums that someone had a friend who has a brother that knows MBPs next Tuesday. Of course, that may be wrong. :p
 
I assume the .99 cent rentals are a test of price sensitivity....

I doubt it, it's just something to get people hooked, like the free songs in iTunes.

I'm calling it now: Apple and Blockbuster (or Netflix) team up on a monthly plan...very soon.

I'd love to see it, but I'd be shocked to see it any time soon. The studios want a royalty on every download and they're unlikely to include their new releases in any plan that would let the per-movie $$ get too low.

Netflix announced weeks ago they will have a stand alone device to stream movies to a TV. The device will be from LG. Also The Hours is 'free' for Netflix subscribers to watch now. No need to give iTunes another $1 for nothing. All Netflix plans at $9 a month and up get free unlimited movie streams. A Mac client is coming soon. In the meantime, I'll use Windows with Fusion on my Mac, to get the movie. So, until iTunes offers an 'All you can eat' plan, I'll stick with Netlfix.

While it's great that NF has some downloads included in their subscription, their selection is EXTREMELY limited. Pretty much no new film releases beyond documentaries and a few indies. NF is only really competing with iTunes with their snailmailing of disks. If you want to watch a new release, your options are iTunes or wait for the mail.

The 7.6.1 update fixes my way to extend the 24h-limit of iTunes movie rentals which I posted in these forums a few days ago... :-(

No surprise there...I called it earlier in the thread.
 
OK, before and after pictures then. :D You should see 7.6 on the left, 7.6.1 on the right.

That is quite the subtle difference to have noticed without the side-by-side.

I often notice things like that :D. (No sarcasm there).

I think the old icons looked better.
 
two questions:

1) does this improve the problem where itunes would 'lose' the appleTV? Mine used to pop up and then disappear so quickly I'd sometimes not even have time to change a sync setting. as the notes specifically mention appleTV I have my fingers crossed

2) Can you still use a US account with credit in the UK? (this one pops up every time there is an update)
 
The :apple:TV adds absolutely NOTHING to my home theater experience... except for the fact that Apple won't let me rent their HD content.

Considering you are already using a box that costs more than twice what the aTV costs, would you expect it to add anything?
 
OK isn't really the right button label...

Looks like there's a problem on the CDN:
 

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Pretty much all CRT monitors made after 1995 or so are capable of displaying HD.

As for LCD montiors, even my el-cheapo MacBook has a native resolution of 1280x800. It can handle 720p just fine.

More to the point, I already have a Mac mini in my living room, and apart from a higher cost and the lack of the :apple:TV software, it's a superior solution to :apple:TV in every way.

With my Mac mini and a simple DVI-HDMI cable, I can:
Play DVDs
Play archived DVD images
Play media files off the Internet
Play music with iTunes
Watch & record free over-the-air HDTV using EyeTV
Browse the web on my HDTV screen
Dual-boot to Windows and play City of Heroes

All on a 119" projection screen, with 5.1 surround sound.

The :apple:TV adds absolutely NOTHING to my home theater experience... except for the fact that Apple won't let me rent their HD content.

I ain't paying $200 just so I can rent movies from them.

Like I said beofe, you do realize that relatively speaking hardly anybody has this setup, and Apple already has more of your money from your mini purchase than if you rented movies?

Also, it is not just monitor. You need a recent PC to handle HD content. I use an iMac G5 that isn't very good at HD and then what about the tons of PC users with ancient PCs that would complain that Apple is ripping them off by renting them something they cannot watch? You are the exception, not the rule. And Apple has to cater to the masses.
 
I'm just curious. If you have an iPhone or iPod touch, or another iPod that allows CCs, you should transfer it and see if they work on those devices.

I do have an iPod touch but have yet to find a movie in iTunes that is marked with the CC logo that I want to spend money on...

I would assume it would work, though.
 
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