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Why? What would change. I'm a Cocoa programmer in my spare time, but I hate to tell you there is no reason to assume anything would become better just because it was Cocoa.

One thing would though - anchored selections with the cursor keys, to work like Mail does.
 
Originally Posted by Clayne:
Big deal? Even iTunes 8.0 and iPod upgrades doesn't really exceed any other iPod event.

A big deal, to me, would be a sweet "one more thing". And I think ya'll know what I'm thinking, realistically or not.

TABLET MAC!!!!!!!!!!! OH PLEASEEEEEE......:D:apple:

Haha, woah. I was actually talking about the new MB/MBPs.
 
Finally ... I got burnt when they upgraded TV show quality last time. A few days before the announcement, I purchase Venture Bros season 1. The quality is terrible compared to current quality.

Needless to say, I have wanted to purchase Venture Bros season 3 but I am now going to hold off until they release it in higher quality. I only purchase a limit number of things off iTunes (Non-music) since the quality doesn't hold up very well at 61" 1080p.

I am really looking forward to the HD content.
 
I really hope they improve the fundamentals of iTunes rather than grafting on more unnecessary features like this genius playlist thing.

The thing needs to be totally rewritten, and the rules for smart playlists need to be a lot more flexible.
 
With iTunes 8, browse your artists and albums visually with the new Grid view; download your favorite TV shows in HD quality from the iTunes Store; sync your media with iPod nano (4th generation), iPod classic (2nd generation), and iPod touch (2nd generation); and enjoy a stunning new music visualizer.

And what about syncin' my media with my iPod-Old-Style (5th generation)!!! ;)
 
Want subscriptions!

The only change I really care about for iTunes (other than obvious bug fixes like backup time) would be either an all-you-can-eat download or subscription service.

Several articles have been posted on this saying the subscription service is a sure-thing, but somehow I don't think we will be seeing it.

To this day I still keep Rhapsody service around for that reason. I'd rather give the money to Apple.
 
"big deal" had better be a "big deal" for apple to sound off like that!! tablet? subscription service doesn't seem "big deal" enough to warrant apple touting it. can't really think of much else they'd have on their burner than that. they have their expectations cut out for them!!
 
Finally ... I got burnt when they upgraded TV show quality last time. A few days before the announcement, I purchase Venture Bros season 1. The quality is terrible compared to current quality.

Needless to say, I have wanted to purchase Venture Bros season 3 but I am now going to hold off until they release it in higher quality. I only purchase a limit number of things off iTunes (Non-music) since the quality doesn't hold up very well at 61" 1080p.

I am really looking forward to the HD content.

Just wait until all the providers start clamping your bandwidth. If TV Shows were to cost $2.99 in HD, that would probably start adding a lot of extra traffic. ISPs would put caps on even quicker than they're starting to (for "unlimited" service no less) and we'll be ba-da-ba-da-da...lovin' it.

If the HD TV shows thing is true, great. I probably won't buy them unless it's something that has no extra value from buying Blu-ray (like no extra features). DRM-protected videos still have the massive drawback of being a pain in the butt to play anywhere not using a computer or iPod. Kill DRM and then we can talk about video downloads going somewhere (not to mention Blu-ray Disc burner sales).
 
ungraphic said:
When will apple release a slimmed down version of iTunes, for, ya know.......TUNES? iTunes is bogged down with crap like support for iphones, ipods, itv, itms, etc. You may as well call it iMedia since iTunes alone is misleading. Not only that but it eats up ram at this point, and included all features i DONT need since i dont use or even want a crappy ipod.

With that said, does anyone know of any nice, light on system resources and simple mp3 player for OS X?

Hear Hear I second this opinion, might just be my computer but my internet and multi tasking is mighty slow when itunes is open

Yup, well my experience is fine but itunes either needs heavy tweaking or it needs to get rid of all the useless crap thats making it so bloated. Apple should just give us 'iTunes Light' for those of us who arent sheep with iphones or ipods.
 
What needs to be done is for iTunes to store the library in a database format and not an xml file. xml for large libraries has become WAY TOO SLOW to parse.

Right on about this. I have 2700+ full albums (I run a music review website (Free promotion time: Thrash Magazine, www.thrashmag.com)) and iTunes takes me over 2 minutes to load on a 4gig dual core machine. Its painful since my XML file is about 85meg...

My other wishes wants:
-SPEED Improvements #1
-Automatic download Lyric Support (like artwork)
-FLAC support (I would rip this way if it supported it)
-A Real Movie tool (not just the drag drop thing they have now)
-On the PC: The support to put the artwork in the folder of the actual music files if you want it (I hate that even if I pick a music folder I still have to have my artwork go to My Docs\My Music\Itunes\etc. in a TERRIBLY UNORGANIZED
-Different Video Location Support
-Better/More Formats for Movie Support as well as support to the PS3 (I hate Windows Media Player)
 
What would spark my interest would be a "One more Thing..." introducing the iServe. The iServe being an upgraded Mac Mini that now acts as a whole house media server (with larger 1TB harddrive) with iTunes 8 integration so that music ripped/purchased through iTunes is stored centrally (irrespective of computer) so that you only need to store the files once, and in a high quality apple lossless format. The iServe could then stream music through iTunes 8 server to audio clients/aTV in a lossless format for at home.
If they did that... well, given that I just bought a 640 GB hard drive to turn my old tower into something very similar (especially once the next round of MacBook revisions comes around and I get myself one of those for my primary machine), I won't be too terribly surprised. That's just my luck!
 
"iTunes 8 would arrive as a "big update" with new features"

WOW. You sure this is from Kevin Rose and not Sherlock Holmes? jeez, thats pretty far out there! new features with a major update? just like every other major update, bringing new features to the board.
You mean like iTunes 5 thru 7, whose only major feature was video support?
 
i miss when the music note on the icon used to change colors with every major release...please bring it back!!!
 
It seems to me they've completely redesigned the interface of iTunes, because of that 'Genius sidebar', which would not fit into the current design in my opinion.
Kevin Rose said:
With iTunes 8, browse your artists and albums visually with the new Grid view; … and enjoy a stunning new music visualizer.
That's it. THAT'S IT.

I'm downloading iTunes 8 the moment it comes online. Redesign? About time, I think. I'd like to see cues from iPhoto and iMovie '08, as well as a Cocoa rewrite. Also, the media progress bar… get it out of the 1990's!! We've been done with black and white for a long time.

Personally I think iTunes 8 will be released with a new interface. Something along the lines of the iPhone/iPod Touch interface. It's a lot easier to use and looks freaking great.
Totally agreed, if it's adapted for a mouse/keyboard interface. But I think the next GUI step may be the iMovie '08 dark grey theme.

What would spark my interest would be a "One more Thing..." introducing the iServe.
[snip cool details I totally agree with and have been thinking about]
Something like that was hinted at by Steve Jobs not long ago. We could see that soon, at or before MWSF 2009.
 
Am I the only one who caught this, cause I haven't seen in mentioned in the thread:

With iTunes 8, browse your artists and albums visually with the new Grid view; download your favorite TV shows in HD quality from the iTunes Store; sync your media with iPod nano (4th generation), iPod classic (2nd generation), and iPod touch (2nd generation); and enjoy a stunning new music visualizer.

Everyone keeps talking about the products which will be introduced at this event: a iPod Nano (which would be a 4th generation), and a new iPod Touch (which would be a 2nd generation).

No one is talking about the Classic, people in this thread have even said they think it might get discontinued. It's mentioned in the quote above that an these new features in iTunes 8 will work with your iPod Classic (2nd generation), along with the other two new products we are expecting to be announced, so why don't we expect a new Classic. The current one is the first generation, so I think there will be a new Classic on Sept 9th based on the quote above. It'll probably just have a new UI with a few new features, and probably the low end will be 120GB to compete with that new 120GB Zune which will be $249.

The Classic isn't going anywhere. I just wonder now if the 160GB will be the high end, or with that will go up as well.
 
Yup, well my experience is fine but itunes either needs heavy tweaking or it needs to get rid of all the useless crap thats making it so bloated. Apple should just give us 'iTunes Light' for those of us who arent sheep with iphones or ipods.

If you don't need the iPhone/iPod support, try MediaMonkey. Its excellent as a music manager and player, way better than iTunes. Only runs on PC though. Also supports iPods prior to v2.x firmware for syncing music. No podcast or video support, but handles large music libraries perfectly.
 
No one is talking about the Classic, people in this thread have even said they think it might get discontinued. It's mentioned in the quote above that an these new features in iTunes 8 will work with your iPod Classic (2nd generation), along with the other two new products we are expecting to be announced, so why don't we expect a new Classic.
I assumed it'll be a price drop.

It'll probably just have a new UI with a few new features, and probably the low end will be 120GB to compete with that new 120GB Zune which will be $249.

The Classic isn't going anywhere. I just wonder now if the 160GB will be the high end, or with that will go up as well.
There aren't any hard drives larger than 160 GB, from what I've heard. So we'll most likely see price drops and maybe a capacity bump on the low-end from 80 GB to 120 GB (same price).

And the iPod shuffle is not mentioned. Maybe that'll be just a color change like last year.
 
i'm thinking, if Apple does in fact introduce a subscription service, it will tie in really nicely with the whole concept of Genius playlist. you have your music library, and you can use the Genius to search the entire iTunes Store for music that may interest you. you can download these songs and enjoy these songs on the go on the iPod. By rating and ranking what you like and don't like, the Genius will tailor fit your ultimate iTunes library. if you like what you're listening to, you can buy the music and keep it as your own. Wouldn't this be the ultimate killer app to get people to subscribe to iTunes, buy iPods etc?
 
The 9th can't come soon enough! I'm usually the kind of person who loves to watch the Keynote from Apple's website without any spoilers, but I don't know if I can contain myself if iTunes is going to receive such a face lift!
 
Just wait until all the providers start clamping your bandwidth. If TV Shows were to cost $2.99 in HD, that would probably start adding a lot of extra traffic. ISPs would put caps on even quicker than they're starting to (for "unlimited" service no less) and we'll be ba-da-ba-da-da...lovin' it.

If the HD TV shows thing is true, great. I probably won't buy them unless it's something that has no extra value from buying Blu-ray (like no extra features). DRM-protected videos still have the massive drawback of being a pain in the butt to play anywhere not using a computer or iPod. Kill DRM and then we can talk about video downloads going somewhere (not to mention Blu-ray Disc burner sales).

I am not worried about the bandwidth issue. Sure, I am using Comcast right now and they have limits in place (Well, soon they are). If I get even close to the limit, I will switch to Speakeasy in a heart beat. There are so many DSL providers out there that won't pull this crap.

If it _really_ became a problem I am still not worried because there is tons of free wifi around here.

DRM isn't going anywhere, the content owners won't allow it to be sold without. I have gotten used to it and I have plenty of devices that support it, so again no worry.

Very rare I would buy a Bluray of a TV show, Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles is really the only one I would ever think about getting in HD.

Extra features are nice, but I only care about them on select movies. Movies I would buy in Bluray anyway. iTunes won't be able to beat Bluray in quality.
 
I very much expect a new iPod Classic.

I think the people who say it will be discontinued are delusional.

Very much hoping that we also get larger HD space, or at least
a more reasonable way to manage what music goes on the iPod,
besides unchecking lots of music if you want all playlists to sync.
 
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