Absolute nonsense. You sit right up close to an iMac screen for example, 24 inches of 1080p would look incredible. Much nicer than a stretched SD picture.
I'd like to see the hdd user replaceable too though.
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iTunes 9 to Include Blu-ray Support and iPhone App Organization?
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Absolute nonsense. You sit right up close to an iMac screen for example, 24 inches of 1080p would look incredible. Much nicer than a stretched SD picture.
I'd like to see the hdd user replaceable too though.
I've seen Blu-Ray on equipment that I bet none of you can even imagine. Remember I am in Japan.
I'm curious to see what sort of things are being used in Japan. Over here I don't notice many of my friends investing heavily in HD or notice it a lot on a day to day basis - for instance the HD aisles in supermarkets aren't all that noticeable, though they are undeniably there...
Yes, I agree. Beyond the visual enhancements (and perhaps audio) I suspect that the average consumer has not been offered enough revolutionary or compelling features or improvements to upgrade to Blu-Ray at the current price point. That is not to say it is not selling, but it certainly has not displaced DVD.
"I'm not dead"
"He says he's not dead"
"Yes he is"
"I'm not"
"He isn't"
"Well, he will be soon, he's very ill"
"I'm getting better"
"No you're not, you'll be stone dead in a moment"
Dead no... archaic and on it's way out yes... I wonder which will actually die first, hard drives or optical drives? I've been saying for two years I want a MBP without a built in optical drive, although I wouldn't yet spend the money on the SSD to replace my 500GB HD.
Optical is dying slowly because, at least in the US, broadband cost and speeds are still too slow and expensive to replace it. Look to Korea, France and to a lesser extent Japan to inovate alternatives over the coming years before anything comes to the US. The US is still market driver however and nothing will go mainstream until the US adopts it. Figure at least 4-5 years before your average US consumer is going to have the bandwidth to make distribution of multi-gigabyte data (HD Video) over broadband practical (either streaming or downloaded).
Sure _I_ download 99% of my video entertainment, surveying my friends there are others that download some, but not nearly as much as me. Using a FAR more representative sample and surveying my neighbors, not one downloads ANY video entertainment. One has asked me about getting a Roku box, but doesn't have one yet... Regardless, it'll be a LONG time before consumers like them adopt alternatives to optical media.
I imagine, at least for video entertainment, broadband distribution will take a long time to replace optical media. Perhaps there is room in the transition for optical to go away and be replaced by flash media. Imagine kiosk based digital distribution (perhaps someone has a proper name for this? as I just made that up). Basically you go to the video store (or a RedBox like kiosk), select a movie, plug in your 8 GB USB 3.0 Flash Drive and 30 seconds later take your 8 GB's of HD video home to plug into your entertainment center.
Kiosk/Flash based distribution would service the 80% of people that in five years won't still won't have 20+ Mbps broadband. Personally I think you'd need 20 Mbps minimum to be happy downloading HD Video. At 20 Mbps you could buffer the first couple minutes and then still complete downloading 8GB in an hour. Honestly though I think you'd need to get to 80 Mbps (roughly 10 MB/s) before people are really going to be willing to download HD Video, at that point an 8 GB movie would take 15 minutes. At 80 Mbps streaming is trivial, and downloading to watch later is reasonable.
I love the RedBox. Who can beat $1 a night movie rentals? Plus you can return the movie to any redbox kiosk, not the one you bought it from.
Lol yes you're quite correct
I happen to pick up most films in the supermarket when shopping for other things - not the biggest selection I know, could go to a dedicated store and so on... it's convenient.
Plus they are mentioned in that link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarket#Typical_supermarket_merchandise
I guess what I was trying to suggest was that if Blu-Ray was being adopted lots you would see huge sections in the supermarket audio-visual department dedicated to it rather than DVD.
Personally, I quite like what I see in Blu-Ray, but I will wait for the price to come down a bit first.
Lol yes you're quite correct
I happen to pick up most films in the supermarket when shopping for other things - not the biggest selection I know, could go to a dedicated store and so on... it's convenient
Plus they are mentioned in that link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarket#Typical_supermarket_merchandise
yeah but most of the time they only sale like 5 titles on a small turn shelf at customer service. Most of the movies are late 80s/early 90s low budget films such as career opentrties :
Seconded. The same goes for the MBP 17" (1920x1200). Why on earth would you need a 42" TV to benefit from HD? A TV is usually several feet away, with a MBP we're talking inches. It takes up more of my field of view than my 42" TV does. Heck, there are seats in a theater that give you a smaller picture than an iPhone held up close. When did viewing distance stop being a parameter?
That might be the case in the USA. In some of the larger UK supermarkets there is a massive range. They are also the cheapest place on the high street for newly released films.
Beaten to it...
Precisely that: a large supermarket has a pretty good range of DVDs on sale at very reasonable prices. Perhaps hypermarket is the term used in the US for the same thing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypermarket)
Precisely that: a large supermarket has a pretty good range of DVDs on sale at very reasonable prices. Perhaps hypermarket is the term used in the US for the same thing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypermarket)
ummmm, actually CD's never replaced records, I still buy albums on vinyl because is just sounds better.
And CD's will never be replaced by MP3's because again, a quality difference.
I know CD's are a niche market, and record's even more so, but they will never go away completely.
Video media is very different, VHS are not considered 'better' in any way, opposed to records where that unique sound is liked.
The only VHS's that we have left are those old disney movies from childhood, because honestly when you stick a four year old in front of a TV, they cant usually tell the difference between Blu-Ray and VHS. To them, the Lion King is the Lion King
The only sound media I can ever see being 100% are tapes, because they fall short in almost every way, and they don't last long... at least in my house
Nope it's not, I live in the US, and I have never heard the term 'hypermarket'
The term here is gennerally Wal-Mart
lol, ima jk tho, it supermarket
Right, and as long as optical media is evolving it will still have an edge over streamed material quality wise. By the time that enough households had the stable 6 Mbps throughput required for full DVD quality, they went ahead and launched Blu-ray that needs a throughput of 51 Mbps (the audio alone needs 6 Mbps). And in 10 years when the majority of households have access to such bandwidth (hopefully), there'll be another video disc format with 200 Mbps bandwidth...
There is no doubt that BluRay is the future of optical drives, and it IS coming. Seems surprising it comes with iTunes 9 so soon, but it might be in coincidence with SnowLeopard and new iMacs.
I agree. I would want Blu-Ray more for data backup and saving rather than movies. Movies are a good bonus feature to BluRay for me.
I agree. I would want Blu-Ray more for data backup and saving rather than movies. Movies are a good bonus feature to BluRay for me.
I have a feeling it's going to be standard on the high-end models, like the Superdrive was. I guess they'll have to call this one the Hyperdrive... or maybe they're not allowed to rebrand it, maybe that's the "bag of hurt" Jobs was referring to. If he can't call Blu-ray "Hyperdrive Super Extreme" he doesn't wanna play anymore.
Come on, be realistic.
Apple aren't selling the Apple IIe anymore.
HD-DVD lost the 'format war' and correct me if I'm wrong but there aren't any new titles being sold.
If you're seriously saying those two examples equate to the active purchase of brand new, currently-in-production millions upon millions of CD, DVDs and Blu-ray discs being sold, for a variety of uses (audio/video/data) then debating any of this seems a bit pointless.
I'm not saying everything online isn't the future (for all its positive and negative consequences). But that is not the same as optical media being dead already. If you are lucky enough that you have no need for optical media anymore, good for you, but that's no reason to be curmudgeonly towards all the people who can't or don't want to get their media online yet.
I'm quite a movie buff, but I firmly believe that I'm not alone in liking Blu-ray as a format, and wanting Apple to fully support it in OS X. I've never claimed that that we won't probably all end up getting all our media online at some point, but that is 'the future', as in, not the present! SSDs are obviously 'the future', but Apple isn't dropping Hard Drives yet. If Apple want to make products for people like yourself who have no need of optical drives, (like the MacBook Air for example) then great, but when even Apple are selling an optical drive and allowing sharing optical drives from another machine, it's a tacit admission that optical media is not dead yet.
Until there is ubiquitous high speed internet for everyone (and I mean globally, not just in the USA) and downloadable media of the same or better quality than the current optical formats allow for, optical media is not dead.
The real sign that optical media ha actually died will be when you can make that statement and everyone says 'huh, yeah, we know', not when numerous people respond with 'no, it's not', but then I guess when that time comes you'll be saying some other future technology that everyone is still using is dead instead.
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As for the distinction between 'dead' and 'dying', well as people we're all 'dying' - that's no reason for suicide in our 50s though!
Err... why would they sound better? I could see your point had it still been 1980 when both the multitrack recordings and the masters were on tape, so it was analog all the way... but these days when both the recordings and the masters are digital 99% of the time, vinyl releases are more of a gimmick, they're the result of a digital to analog transfer. AAA, AAD, ADD and DDD all make sense, but... DDA?
I'd love to play Star Wars on Blu-Ray in my Hyperdrive... imagine the promotional tie-in opportunities http://www.starwars.com/databank/technology/hyperdrive/Sadly it seems someone has beaten Apple to that name though... http://www.hyperdrive.com/
The more I buy Blu rays almost exclusively the more the lack of BD support for OS X kills. Although since my iMac doesn't have a drive, I'd just go for an external one (I mean now I have an external drive, a USB hub, external HD, proof that all in ones tend to cause more clutter, I'd much rather just upgrade to internal HD and BD)
Digital recording can go well above what we get on down-sampled CDs and downloads though... I think even GarageBand can record at 24-bit for example.
at this point, apples lack of native BD support and hardware BTO is just defiance. For a company that pounds it's chest about their hardware this omission is a serious blunder. I understand that BD can be had on OS X, but i think the majority of folks want to see native support and integration into the OS. I would like to be able to take my home HD video's and make BD's because i would rather do that than, 1. hook up my laptop to the TV, and 2. be able to use my laptop when i want to watch said media as well.
Yep. and even now a days we don't even use those terms (unless your an oldie, or from the UK) We just say "I need to go to the store and get some milk"
or in some cases we even say the name of the store.
Fred Myer
Super Target
Wal-Mart Supercenter
those 3 are the main ones. i know there are others, but they are uslly only in one city.
Frustrates me when people claim you can't tell the difference without a large screen. I only have a 32" screen and the difference between 720p and 1080p is obvious from my sofa metres away. Does everyone just have terrible eye-sight?
Did I?