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Originally posted by 6163621

..... sending me lots of paperworks to fill in which are made purposefully compelx.

which indicates they are not so dumb after all... on the other hand, if you find it complex and hard.... :D



DISCLAIMER: This is intended as a humourous post only, and should not be taken seriously. I do not subscribe to the view that fins just run around in the woods, naked, hitting at each other with axes. I believe there are equal amount of people in any country (yes, Norway also) that do the exact same thing.
 
Ha.... they are not as bad as the English tax return papers though. Complex does not need to equate hard. After all, if one can use a Windows GUI Ö)

Should we now find a Dane and go and gang up on the Swedes hiding out with the Americans trying to look cool, in the spirit of Nordic cooperation ...
 
Originally posted by 6163621
Should we now find a Dane and go and gang up on the Swedes hiding out with the Americans trying to look cool, in the spirit of Nordic cooperation ...

That would be fun! I just have to figure out how this could bring us an ITMS over here as soon as possible... :D
 
Originally posted by 6163621
Perhaps they think it is some extension of Radio Free Europe or a CIA conversion campaign.

When you said your response is satirical, you didn't mean this part, right? This part is true, right? :)

I'd be surprised if it's anything more complicated than the legal zoo of multiple countries, though...isn't there some kind of timetable for harmonized IP laws between EU countries? I thought I remembered reading about this with respect to French droit morale laws and colorizing/remastering/remixing movies.

Someone else posted saying they didn't like the idea of iTunes Europe b/c they wanted a local iTunes with local content that was different than everyone else's. I'm not sure I understand this perspective. I think, of course, every European user would expect that at least a good chunk of the more popular music in their region would be sold in iTunes (inasmuch as this is true for pop music in the USA and the USA iTMS). But why do the collections need to be mutually exclusive? I don't understand, for instance, why you (as, say a Finn) would not patronize a store because it sold Italian favorites as well as Finnish music, esp. when you have the advantage of hierarchical navigation / browsing. And of course Finnish (in the example) musicians would benefit more if non-Finns could buy their music.

OTOH, I think wanting a customized new music / start page by country or even region is somewhat more reasonable. I think the system should also try to customize the start page based on recent purchases, a la Amazon.

The side benefit would be that iTunes would never again have to announce to me that a new Brittney Spears album is available. ;)
 
Originally posted by mkrishnan
OTOH, I think wanting a customized new music / start page by country or even region is somewhat more reasonable.

This was also the point I believe. Europe is not a homogenuos continent as the US. The record labels having different release times is one thing, but national music is quite strong in most countries - for instance it is not rare to see 5-6 norwegian entries in the norwegian top 10 charts. These would of course not necessarily be popular in other countries, but as a norwegian I would expect them to be promoted. Apple already do this with the Apple store - not all items are availabel at same times in different countries, and also there are localized campaigns.
 
Maybe the ideal is you go to the store you want and get a "country specific" offering but in your preferences you can equally say "I will use the US store as my "local branch" but can see and order from these foreign branches as I see fit. That way, if a track is on sale in Finland before England maybe an English person would have to "import" it at the English price until it comes on "domestic relase". With free trade rules in Europe I think that is doable.
 
Originally posted by 6163621
Maybe the ideal is you go to the store you want and get a "country specific" offering but in your preferences you can equally say "I will use the US store as my "local branch" but can see and order from these foreign branches as I see fit. That way, if a track is on sale in Finland before England maybe an English person would have to "import" it at the English price until it comes on "domestic relase". With free trade rules in Europe I think that is doable.

That wouldn't be too bad, although I wonder why one would need to pay foreign prices.

In the US, there's a moderately-sized import gray market of concert CDs released in Japan or Hong Kong but not here....

To add to your point, though, if a slight price premium is what it would take to be able to buy foreign music on iTunes, I'd be good for that.
 
The mention of premium was to provide for extra alleged costs and to protect the "national music distributor". A sort of bad halfway house.
 
I was thinking about this the other day.... Despite all rumours for Aust, Europe, Japan, Canada et al.... I don't think Apple have made any actual movements to providing iTMS beyond the USA - that they have made public?

So they get in first... in the biggest market... get themselves out of the red.... get huge market share... and now nothing?

Or maybe they don't care / don't want to / and are already moving towards their next big coup?!?!

I hope that fleeting thought of mine was wrong... and I still would love to click on the Music Store link in iTUNES one day and NOT get that country warning!!!!!

I can dream anyway - but I am only in Aust... the lucky country!?
 
On a related note, if I go to Target or Walmart or whatever when I visit the US in May and buy a $20 pre-paid card, will I then be able to buy 20 songs from the store when I'm back at home in Blighty? (At the current exchange rate, that's 50p a song!)

I'm getting impatient. Occassionaly I hear a song on the radio and I want to get it, not the whole album. Singles are way too expensive and it's hard to find old songs. iTunes is the way to go. I would still buy CDs (cheap off Play.com) for actual whole albums.
 
Originally posted by johnnyjibbs
.....when I visit the US in May and buy a $20 pre-paid card, will I then be able to buy 20 songs from the store when I'm back at home in Blighty?

I think I read somewhere that you also need a valid iTMS account in order to use a pre-paid card.

As far as I know, you can only currently get an iTMS account if you have a credit card that is charged to a US address.
 
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