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iTunes Expected to Be Retired After Over 18 Years
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Right. Where can I download a stand-alone copy of iTunes? I’m going to need a fallback position here. How are individual Music, Movies, Books, etc. apps supposed to sync with iPads? Will I have to open all 3 apps to sync my iPad?
That’s the point. Apple wants everyone using iCloud and Apple Music. Apple has always been about control, so this is a natural progression for them.
I think that the new 'music' will see movies, books etc as 'media libraries' similar to how iTunes now sees photos as a media library.
I agree though. looking for a standalone copy as a fallback now!!!! Unfortunately the latest I can find on Apple's website is 12.8.2 not 12.9.5.5 which is what I'm running.
I’m not so sure.
I suspect that a syncing app maybe produced for those who refuse to keep up with technology and sync over iCloud.
It makes no sense to have an app called ‘music’ or ‘iTunes’ in charge of syncing with your device for movies, books, podcasts and it only leads to an opportunity for bloatware. Apples own guidelines for Apps state that it should have a single purpose in order to be useful and distinct, I suspect, although long overdue, iTunes is being dismantled for entirely this reason.
iTunes is ok on a Mac but awful on Windows. Even on a Mac it takes some navigating around. The UI is as clean as can be but still hellish.
Well done Apple, about time.
iCloud doesn't sync paid music, unless you pay extra for iTunes Match.
Also the number of people who have than 5GB on their device to backup would be minimal.
It is not a case of 'not wanting to keep up with technology', moving away from iTunes requires spending money on iTunes Match, spending money on more iCloud storage etc.
I would say a separate syncing app made sense, but how does one then drag content onto their device to sync? Would the syncing app load up a users music library to allow them to individually choose?
I don’t understand what you mean. I never ever synced any of my many iOS devices. I allways transfer manually, music, videos, books (still using iTunes 12.6.5 on Mojave), everything.
So we should pay to access the songs we own and have ripped ourselves? Mmm... Not sure I'd be happy with that!
What a great news..
I always HATED iTunes with a passion.
one of the worst,and most not-user-friendly applications ever.
always confusing and awkward to use.
I always HATED iTunes with a passion.
one of the worst,and most not-user-friendly applications ever.
always confusing and awkward to use.
As for iCloud, what about my iPod Classic, packed with music and podcasts, used daily for a decade.
Apple Music sucks. I don’t always want to be connected, regardless of whether or not I can always be connected.
I thought Apple was making a stand for privacy. So why do I have to stick all MY stuff in your cloud? And it is my stuff. I bought it. Not the licence, the physical media.
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Link? Where can I download versions of iTunes from please?
[doublepost=1559384055][/doublepost]Where can I download versions of iTunes from? Link, please?
Apple Music sucks. I don’t always want to be connected, regardless of whether or not I can always be connected.
I thought Apple was making a stand for privacy. So why do I have to stick all MY stuff in your cloud? And it is my stuff. I bought it. Not the licence, the physical media.
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Link? Where can I download versions of iTunes from please?
[doublepost=1559384055][/doublepost]Where can I download versions of iTunes from? Link, please?
Yes! It's about time to have a separate app to manage and backup iOS devices, instead of using the bloated iTunes.
I still use iTunes to backup my Phone, transfer movies etc to my iPad. I don't understand the need to have 3 separate apps to do this when there is currently just one.
Come on! You don’t think Apple woul...
Oh nvm
Did you read the post? They said the music app will be used to sync.
On a side note I prefer that MBP situation to one that is thicker and covered in ports. Imagine all them cables going into the machine itself. Seems better to have the port when you need it not always there even if you don’t.
Plus when you leave you unplug 2 things vs 6.
Its ok... they are going to offer to pay the subscription fees for those of us that are too thick to understand that because their limited taste in music is available, everything is fine. Oh, wait.
Indeed, I love iTunes on my gaming PC rig as well as my Surface Pro 6 and Surface Book 15.
Heck no. About all you can do with that iOS Music app is play music on the mobile device (stream it or download it or reference previously downloaded content) and mess around with your playlists a little -- create them, edit content, rearrange play order. Most importantly, the iOS app Music is not a tool for managing track metadata.
iTunes (and one would expect the same of the new desktop/laptop version of "Music" app) also plays back music, of course. But it is far more powerful than the iOS app. It allows you to manage the metadata associated with the tracks at a granular or collective level: name tracks the way you want them displayed in playback, handle other metadata track-by-track or in groups: manage genre assignments, manage metadata for compilation album content however you may prefer, create groups and categories for related tracks, create smart playlists, create folders for groups of playlists having certain attributes in common, access the views, tools and scripts needed to manage collections of different kinds of music according to user preference.
Compared to creating and managing content of a playlist on an iOS device, the same function in iTunes has far more flexibility and ease of use.
And (so far) iTunes, and one hopes its replacement, allows the user to manage transfer of content stored in laptop/desktop libraries on multiple mobile devices individually: loading and reloading each on a manual basis or syncing each one automatically to specified playlists, or even letting the app manage reloads according to device storage capability with the user merely indicating certain high-level preferences for content selection.
For anyone with a large collection of music (and especially the various subgenres of "classical" music, not having iTunes functions available would mean the user would pretty much have to find another app to manage the metadata. On mobile devices, the in-playback info available about a track is pretty limited and --except for association to playlists-- cannot be edited on that mobile device from within the iOS music app.
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Yeah show me the sameness lol. I can hope, and I do. But, track record on reworks of other "renamed" or even just "enhanced" apps have de-featured the new version while gaining a new name or version number amid claims of improved functionality.
All the talk of removing "bloat" makes me nervous, I admit that. That's because it's not like Apple is going to brag up front on removal of a feature that you have to access with a right-click on some submenu anyway....
When Apple talked in the past about improvements going from iTunes 10 to iTunes 11... removal of "bloat" may have been in there, I can't remember, but anyway the outcome felt like what happened included taking out a kidney and a few lobes of the liver while the surgeons were in there fixing a few things that weren't actually broken.
The biggest improvement Apple could have done on recent iterations of iTunes was improve the documentation, so more of the recent generations of "switched-to-Macs!" users could understand the power of iTunes regarding metadata management. By now a lot of it has come down to word of mouth including passing on info about existence of Doug's scripts to enhance metadata management and in particular to restore some content presentation via features no longer available from the iTunes app, e.g. visual representation of shuffled playlists, and reshuffling options.
I have no issues with the switch from iTunes to syncing via cloud, my issue is pricing. I want to use apple iCloud but the cost is too high for the capacity given. Of course there are other options, but I prefer to stay in the Apple universe for syncing were it fairly/reasonably priced.