iTunes For Windows is Sticking Around

nojkepop said:
I suppose it's because iOS devices are managed within Finder via macOS 10.15 Catalina. Not sure how they will get around that on Windows. Hopefully they come up with something.
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I have very limited experience with macOS. But isn't Finder similar to File Explorer in Windows?

When I plug my iPhone into Dell laptop to transfer photos, Windows asks me how I want to treat the device. I can copy over photos using File Explorer. I can't see why other files shouldn't be treated the same way.
 
I could see this coming. Especially when Apple said that it'll be handled through Finder in MacOS... so there's no functional equivalent in Windows.

However, IIRC, I seem to remember reading stuff about Microsoft incorporating some type of better phone management in the latest Win10 build in development... maybe it's related. I don't know.
 
To everyone that are afraid of iTunes going away on macOS. There isn't anything to worry about. I installed the macOS 10.15 BETA on a spare MacBook Pro today they have just separated iTunes into four separate pieced instead of having one massive, bloated application.

Finder has all the same synchronisation options as iTunes used to have. It looks and behaves the exact same. The only thing that seems to be missing is support for ringtones and that's pretty much it. You connect your iOS device, open Finder and you will see your device in the sidebar. Click on it and you have the exact same view as you used to have in iTunes. They pretty much ripped out the code from iTunes and put it into Finder.

Same goes for the new Music-app. The UX-design has been slightly updated but the features are exactly the same as you had in iTunes. You can add local files, you can RIP CD's, you can access songs purchased through iTunes Store, you can purchase additional songs, you can connect to iCloud Music Library and you can access Apple Music. It's much faster and more fluid as a standalone application, but the functionality and underlining code seems to be 99% the same.

The new Podcast application? Not much different. Just like with the Music-application it has the exact same features and capabilities as the Podcast function in iTunes used to have. And just like the Music-application the performance and fluidity seems to have greatly improved by the code being separated into it's own application.

Those wondering about Audiobook's? They are automatically moved over to the Book's application and behave pretty much exactly the same as they did in iTunes just faster and more fluid. If you have imported audiobook's from Audible your authorisation gets automatically transferred and your audiobook's are all still there.

TV-app you say? Same story. You will find all your movies and TV-shows purchased or rented in the new TV-app. It's snappier and more fluid as compared to navigating your library in iTunes.


This is all great, but some might be somewhat disappointed that there are so little changes to the applications and their functionality. They are 99% the exact same as they were in iTunes, just separated into separate applications which obviously has improved the performance and there are some slight UX-design changes and improvements as a result of the application being more dedicated towards a single purpose. But there is no re-imagining or re-work of anything.
 
alfonsog said:
So they are basically bringing back iSync...
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I doubt it. You just sync and Pair iDevices in the Finder or go into one of the three apps. I reckon iTunes for Windows will get similar treatment but syncing occurring in one of them since they obviously won't open up to the Windows Explorer. No dedicated Syncing app, unfortunately.
alexandr said:
ok, time to switch over to windows!
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Why? There's nothing wrong with the new Music app. No major features were dropped during the switch.
killr_b said:
lol wait, so if you install Catalina you can't access your movies and TV shows because that app isn't out yet? omg....
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macOS Catalina's TV app is there and is indeed showing the library. Also Catalina isn't even out to the public yet so no reason to try your luck with your library anyway.
 
So what happens to those people that can't upgrade to the new OS. Will we still be able to use itunes and the itunes store?
 
So instead of just running ONE app and ONE dock space to manage ALL Media, now you have to use THREE??? Am I the only one that thinks this is one of the STUPIDEST decision Apple has ever made (along with ditching their Express router line that worked with iTunes music playback so well, essentially handing the whole house audio market to SONOS and newer ones like HEOS?) Three apps with three different interfaces aren't going to work as well or as coherent as ONE Media Manager.

We had a few whining whiners that thought iTunes was "bloated" somehow. I see where removing the iPhone syncing, etc. makes some sense there. But having ONE media manager is a GOOD idea. Look at KODI. They're adding more media plugin capability and more media managing control from ONE INTERFACE. That way everything uses the SAME GUI, the SAME controls and you can even make playlists with songs, music videos, podcasts and TV Shows combined if you like. That's what iTunes COULD do. Now only Windows gets to be the ADVANCED Media Center??? @alexandr is right. Time to switch to Windows. SMB networking never did work quite right on the Mac (e.g. KODI will 'skip' playing music from a Mac server, regardless of the device KODI is installed on. That doesn't happen with a Windows server).

Maybe Apple is just giving us another reason (along with a LOCKED DOWN system once Notarization becomes FORCED on you for everything) to ABANDON the Mac entirely. It's sad such a farking moron as Tim Cook was left running Apple that HATES COMPUTERS (he won't use one; he likes his pad and phone). He's clearly ruining the Macintosh which used to be the focus of Apple. Now that smart phones are starting to wind down (people aren't upgrading anymore because you don't need more power to Facebook Facebook Facebook all day long), Apple is quickly pushing themselves into a "HAS BEEN" corner with their total disinterest in anything but phones.

And a "TV" app? Is that supposed to manage MOVIES too? Movies and TV Shows have always been separate panes. But Podcasts aren't for Music and/or TV? They're separate too? :rolleyes:

Apple used to get it. It's clear they don't anymore.
 
RamGuy said:
To everyone that are afraid of iTunes going away on macOS. There isn't anything to worry about. I installed the macOS 10.15 BETA on a spare MacBook Pro today they have just separated iTunes into four separate pieced instead of having one massive, bloated application.

Finder has all the same synchronisation options as iTunes used to have. It looks and behaves the exact same. The only thing that seems to be missing is support for ringtones and that's pretty much it. You connect your iOS device, open Finder and you will see your device in the sidebar. Click on it and you have the exact same view as you used to have in iTunes. They pretty much ripped out the code from iTunes and put it into Finder.

Same goes for the new Music-app. The UX-design has been slightly updated but the features are exactly the same as you had in iTunes. You can add local files, you can RIP CD's, you can access songs purchased through iTunes Store, you can purchase additional songs, you can connect to iCloud Music Library and you can access Apple Music. It's much faster and more fluid as a standalone application, but the functionality and underlining code seems to be 99% the same.

The new Podcast application? Not much different. Just like with the Music-application it has the exact same features and capabilities as the Podcast function in iTunes used to have. And just like the Music-application the performance and fluidity seems to have greatly improved by the code being separated into it's own application.

Those wondering about Audiobook's? They are automatically moved over to the Book's application and behave pretty much exactly the same as they did in iTunes just faster and more fluid. If you have imported audiobook's from Audible your authorisation gets automatically transferred and your audiobook's are all still there.

TV-app you say? Same story. You will find all your movies and TV-shows purchased or rented in the new TV-app. It's snappier and more fluid as compared to navigating your library in iTunes.


This is all great, but some might be somewhat disappointed that there are so little changes to the applications and their functionality. They are 99% the exact same as they were in iTunes, just separated into separate applications which obviously has improved the performance and there are some slight UX-design changes and improvements as a result of the application being more dedicated towards a single purpose. But there is no re-imagining or re-work of anything.
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I have one question...does Catalina let us update our apps on the Mac? I still use old iTunes and High Sierra because I want the ability to update my apps on my computer and not be forced to update on my iPad and iPhone. Same reason I haven't updated them, either. If I can do this, then I'll be more than happy to update everything. I haven't been able to find any information about this, so if you could answer this, I would be most grateful. :D
 
It will be interesting to see how long Apple supports stand alone iTunes for those who never upgrade to Catalina.
 
dhla said:
Here are my potentially dumb questions:
1. If I do buy a CD, would I still be able to upload the music?
2. I do create a lot of home videos. Will there still be a mechanism to import them so I can carry them on my iPad? I use iTunes to manage the (home) videos on my iPad and iPhone.

Thanks to anyone who has some insight on these topics.
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these are the things i'm thinking about with this new. I have a separate iTunes drive for all my media, will the organization change or will the three new apps find this stuff?
 
dhla said:
Here are my potentially dumb questions:
1. If I do buy a CD, would I still be able to upload the music?
2. I do create a lot of home videos. Will there still be a mechanism to import them so I can carry them on my iPad? I use iTunes to manage the (home) videos on my iPad and iPhone.

Thanks to anyone who has some insight on these topics.
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I would not of thought that it will be any different. TV App on iOS still allows you to watch your videos synced from your Mac etc. I'm sure that the new way of thinking is that iTunes has simply been divided up into three parts and features that are important to Apple users will not be thrown away. Apple is not known for treating its users bad - in fact, it's probably one of the few that looks after its creative users.

In terms of music, your CD rips etc are all safe as mentioned in the Apple press release and on the apple.com home page too :)

Please don't worry. You're not going to loose anything or be worse off - that's not Apple's style and never has been! They are known for taking into consideration all of their users.
 
New betas of both tvOS and iOS also still have iTunes. So the "death of iTunes" is greatly exaggerated. It's really ONLY Mac that it's going from. For now, at least.
 
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