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iTunes For Windows is Sticking Around

Good to know. I can still use my PC to access features that may go away.
 
AMTYVLE said:
What a mess. Just get rid of iTunes everywhere.
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Brilliant. Why don't they just ditch phones too? :rolleyes:

You do know iTunes is the STORE also, right? Or are they going to rename it to the Apple Everything Super Warehouse Store now that "one name" no longer fits? Stupid decision by Apple. A media center is a media center. Decoupling the "panes" doesn't change the need for a media center.
 
rdunlap said:
How do I make / manage device backups now?
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There will be a Print button that will allow you to print out all of the binary code of your system files, so you can re-enter it all if you have to do a system restore.

Shouldn't take more than 10 to 15 reams of paper.
 
I just thought of something. My iTunes library resides in iCloud, and I can access it from both my mac devices and my PCs. I wonder if the new Music app will use the same library, or will I have to have 2 llbraries, one for my apple devices and one for my PC?
 
RamGuy said:
To everyone that are afraid of iTunes going away on macOS. There isn't anything to worry about. I installed the macOS 10.15 BETA on a spare MacBook Pro today they have just separated iTunes into four separate pieced instead of having one massive, bloated application.

Finder has all the same synchronisation options as iTunes used to have. It looks and behaves the exact same. The only thing that seems to be missing is support for ringtones and that's pretty much it. You connect your iOS device, open Finder and you will see your device in the sidebar. Click on it and you have the exact same view as you used to have in iTunes. They pretty much ripped out the code from iTunes and put it into Finder.

Same goes for the new Music-app. The UX-design has been slightly updated but the features are exactly the same as you had in iTunes. You can add local files, you can RIP CD's, you can access songs purchased through iTunes Store, you can purchase additional songs, you can connect to iCloud Music Library and you can access Apple Music. It's much faster and more fluid as a standalone application, but the functionality and underlining code seems to be 99% the same.

The new Podcast application? Not much different. Just like with the Music-application it has the exact same features and capabilities as the Podcast function in iTunes used to have. And just like the Music-application the performance and fluidity seems to have greatly improved by the code being separated into it's own application.

Those wondering about Audiobook's? They are automatically moved over to the Book's application and behave pretty much exactly the same as they did in iTunes just faster and more fluid. If you have imported audiobook's from Audible your authorisation gets automatically transferred and your audiobook's are all still there.

TV-app you say? Same story. You will find all your movies and TV-shows purchased or rented in the new TV-app. It's snappier and more fluid as compared to navigating your library in iTunes.


This is all great, but some might be somewhat disappointed that there are so little changes to the applications and their functionality. They are 99% the exact same as they were in iTunes, just separated into separate applications which obviously has improved the performance and there are some slight UX-design changes and improvements as a result of the application being more dedicated towards a single purpose. But there is no re-imagining or re-work of anything.
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Do playlists and song play count still work?
 
Who will be the first to see if the new music regime grabs all of your music, obfuscates the file names, and hides them seven levels down in the file system like they did with Books when it removed the files from the iTunes folder?
Not me. :)
 
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MagnusVonMagnum said:
Brilliant. Why don't they just ditch phones too? :rolleyes:

You do know iTunes is the STORE also, right? Or are they going to rename it to the Apple Everything Super Warehouse Store now that "one name" no longer fits? Stupid decision by Apple. A media center is a media center. Decoupling the "panes" doesn't change the need for a media center.
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Yeah - I know iTunes is the STORE, obviously. Apple can't incorporate buying Music & TV Shows/Movies through the individual apps instead? iTunes is just a bloated mess, ESPECIALLY on Windows. Why get rid of it here and not there? Let's confuse the public even more. :rolleyes:
 
That's terrible. I get that Apple wants consumers to purchase Apple hardware, but at the same time they need to give us windows users who buy their iphones and ipads some loyalty. It just makes me feel like a 2nd class citizen.
 
TMRJIJ said:
Why? There's nothing wrong with the new Music app. No major features were dropped during the switch.
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i was kidding. i don't think there is anything that would make me switch to windows. unless using macs would cause me suvere physical pain.
 
I wonder to what extend the Music app is just a somewhat stripped version of iTunes. In the end the iTunes app always felt off. Above all it was an app made to look like Mac OS X but never quite offered a truly native experience compared to just about every other bundled app and never properly integrated. Will that actually change with Music or is it a continuation of the old thing?

Long story short: does Music offer a truly native macOS experience?
 
dhla said:
Here are my potentially dumb questions:
1. If I do buy a CD, would I still be able to upload the music?
2. I do create a lot of home videos. Will there still be a mechanism to import them so I can carry them on my iPad? I use iTunes to manage the (home) videos on my iPad and iPhone.

Thanks to anyone who has some insight on these topics.
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Yes and yes. Uploaded a CD last night in Catalina and iOS 13. And the TV App is in the beta. They even put it in the dock for you.
 
nojkepop said:
I suppose it's because iOS devices are managed within Finder via macOS 10.15 Catalina. Not sure how they will get around that on Windows. Hopefully they come up with something.
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they could create a sync app if they really wanted to. clearly they don't want to because their idea is that everyone should be on Apple
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Evan Davis said:
So if I install the Catalina beta (before the TV app is available), will my existing videos be unavailable?
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likely yes. which is why they are constantly saying this is not daily driver software. don't put it on your system if there's something you desperately need to be able to use cause the beta will likely cock it up royally
 
EDarkness said:
I have one question...does Catalina let us update our apps on the Mac? I still use old iTunes and High Sierra because I want the ability to update my apps on my computer and not be forced to update on my iPad and iPhone. Same reason I haven't updated them, either. If I can do this, then I'll be more than happy to update everything. I haven't been able to find any information about this, so if you could answer this, I would be most grateful. :D
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I'm sure Catalina doesn't let you update your iOS apps on your Mac. It doesn't work that way in Mojave, either, and it doesn't work that way if you have a current version of iTunes on your older OSes or Windows.

Syncing of iOS apps via iTunes is gone (no matter what iTunes is called).

Eventually, you'll be forced to change - when you get an iPhone or iPad running iOS 12.x or 13.x you'll be required to use a current edition of iTunes. Until then, enjoy whatever you have.
 
Use-a-screwdriver-on Windows, what about pre-Catalina macOS users? Is there some point in the future where iTunes on all boxes stops working, thereby forcing OS and possibly hardware upgrades?
 
RamGuy said:
To everyone that are afraid of iTunes going away on macOS. There isn't anything to worry about. I installed the macOS 10.15 BETA on a spare MacBook Pro today they have just separated iTunes into four separate pieced instead of having one massive, bloated application.

This is all great, but some might be somewhat disappointed that there are so little changes to the applications and their functionality. They are 99% the exact same as they were in iTunes, just separated into separate applications which obviously has improved the performance and there are some slight UX-design changes and improvements as a result of the application being more dedicated towards a single purpose. But there is no re-imagining or re-work of anything.
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Like you said, I think this is great if it remains up through the fall release. I never really thought iTunes was bloated (maybe a little confusing to navigate sometimes when they “refreshed” it), but for the mostly part made sense. I get Apple trying to simplify all their OS’s though and always thought breaking all the apps up was the way to go: if I want to edit my music - go to Music; a movie? - go to TV (though I still think the Videos name made more sense).

TL;DR glad that same/similar functionality is there with a more organized manner between apps/Finder :D
 
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I wonder if Apple will bring support for Apple Channels and Apple TV+ to Windows via iTunes, or a separate TV app? Surely it won't be supported at all?
[doublepost=1559673457][/doublepost]Also, out of curiosity (my 2009 Mac Mini is obviously too old to run Catalina), does the macOS TV app allow downloading of HD movie and TV purchases like iTunes before it, or just streaming only?
 
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