FINALLY release a new "Mac Pro" after a half decade and it will already be out of date by the time the first one ships! WTF Apple!!!
what are you talking about? it's a billion times faster than any other computer in the universe.
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iTunes For Windows is Sticking Around
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what are you talking about? it's a billion times faster than any other computer in the universe.
Can you drag-and-drop ringtones, or anything else for that matter, in Finder to your iOS device?
Why get rid of it AT ALL???
I'd like someone to explain to me exactly WHAT is "bloated" about it after all these YEARS of hearing about "bloat" that doesn't exist. WHAT is bloated about it?
Is KODI "bloated" because it handles music, tv shows, movies and has streaming plugin options? Does that make it BLOATED because it handles all MEDIA in one program?
What do you hope to gain by having separate programs for MEDIA when it's ALL MEDIA???
Multiple confusing GUI interfaces with no interaction? No combined playlists? Separate stores? Separate media types? Instead of having one place to view all media, you want maybe 12? 15 even?
I'm sorry, but splitting up one thing (MEDIA) into multiple apps is Stupid with a capital S. It's just a button on an AppleTV 4, but on a Mac it's multiple dock spaces, multiple programs, multiple interfaces and multiple problems when one app gets updated and the others lag. I mean who does podcasts in 2019? That many? Wow. I haven't watched or listened to one in about 8 years now. Might as well dump it period. Apple is already putting "owning" music on the back burner. Push Apple Music and renting over owning. My Internet went out twice today at home for about 5 hours total. No streaming. NONE. Go hiking in a remote area? No music. Drop your phone? Sorry, but your car has no music again unless you enjoy commercial ridden FM. Why have a few thousand songs on a USB stick in the car at all times when you can use your phone and RENT music? It's the future. It's GREAT too! Just ask Rent-A-Center how much they enjoy renting your furniture for 10 years where you've paid for it 4-5x over and still don't own it at all.
Oh yeah! $6000 for the base computer and $6000 more for the display (and ANOTHER $1000 more for a "Pro" stand to put the display on!) Now THAT ($13,000 for the BASE MODEL!) is what I call AFFORDABLE, especially comparable to the previous "cheese grater" Mac Pro that started out at $2000. I can't wait to buy one! Maybe two even! And the BEST news of all? As near as I can tell, it doesn't even have PCIe 4.0 that comes out this summer for Windows machines and blows the previous PCIe bus out of the water! Way to stay up to date Apple! FINALLY release a new "Mac Pro" after a half decade and it will already be out of date by the time the first one ships! WTF Apple!!!
Clearly you have issues with the decisions Apple is making these days. Maybe it’s not the ecosystem for you anymore?
Just sayin... you seem to have a fair bit of pent up angst. Nothing personal, but (to me) you are a bit of a thread crapper.
Anyone who was a 'macbook guy' and then saw the horribly flawed laptops apple has released in the past 4 years would have ample justification for going back to windows. If fact, any laptop user would be stupid to spend a half fortune on one of Apple's recent offerings. Nuff said.
Hey since you have beta and I don't, I run stats on my iTunes.xml periodically using libpytunes (a python library). So now each app has a separate XML file? Or does that go away altogether? How has that changed? Thanks for insights.
I know about the situation with current MacOS. I was hoping that with the move to this new system, they would give us the option of managing our apps like we used to be able to do. That's why I was asking someone who has Catalina installed so maybe they could check to see if that was even possible. If not, then I'll stick with what I have now. Managing apps on my devices is a pain in the butt and I have no interest in doing that.
I’ve wondered this too. My guess is we’ll have the “current” iTunes support for maybe 2-3 years before Apple drops it. I already have to pass on Catalina as I have some audio apps I use all the time that I have already been warned with a pop up will not be supported in any newer version of macOS. Even so, again, I know the time will come when Apple will close the door on all Mojave and previous edition users.
Presumably the Music app will do what you need. Meanwhile I’ll keep using crapy Windows iTunes.
You can use iTunes 12.6.5 on Sierra to manage apps in iOS 12.3.1 (the current release) devices. I do on my iPad Mini 5, at least.
Now Windows users will have a better solution than Mac users for the first time. I know I’m in the minority’s but I prefer music, podcasts, tv shows and managing iOS and tvOS devices in one place instead of split up.
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iTunes will continue to work as it does now on Mojave 10.14.6 and older. It may be a problem for future iPhones that may not be supported or recognized by the final version of iTunes.
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iTunes will continue to work as it does now on Mojave 10.14.6 and older. It may be a problem for future iPhones that may not be supported or recognized by the final version of iTunes.
For font-rendering reasons, I've stayed with High Sierra. So if I continue with High Sierra, does my iTunes remain unchanged, or will it get updated anyways?
I know that running High Sierra means I don't have access to the latest iTunes updates (in High Sierra I'm limited to 12.8.x, while Mojave offers 12.9.x), but that doesn't necessarily mean Apple won't provide versions of the planned iTunes revamp for older (but still supported) OS's. Conversely, if my iTunes doesn't get updated, will it continue to be able to interact with the iTunes Store?
According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS_High_Sierra, High Sierra is "Partially supported. Extended support ends in September 2020. iTunes, in August 2021."
I know that running High Sierra means I don't have access to the latest iTunes updates (in High Sierra I'm limited to 12.8.x, while Mojave offers 12.9.x), but that doesn't necessarily mean Apple won't provide versions of the planned iTunes revamp for older (but still supported) OS's. Conversely, if my iTunes doesn't get updated, will it continue to be able to interact with the iTunes Store?
According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS_High_Sierra, High Sierra is "Partially supported. Extended support ends in September 2020. iTunes, in August 2021."
Let's rock it like this!
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I'm guessing the old iTunes will continue to work (as-is) for the forseeable future. After all, my old version of iTunes that only works with SNOW LEOPARD that let's me decrypt all iTunes encrypted material with the help of an old 3rd party program STILL WORKS in VMWare Fusion to this very day....
Oh how how nice Tim Apple another reason Microsoft should be at top in tech market once more and Apple sees once again the early bankrupt days if this is the way you think you are going to get people who still use Microsoft to move to Apple products. iTunes sucks on Microsoft especially when using iTunes on a notebook it murders your battery.
In macOS Catalina, Apple is sunsetting the iTunes app and has split it into three apps instead: Music, Podcasts, and TV, which has left questions about what's happening to iTunes on other platforms.
Apple told Ars Technica that on Windows, there will be no changes. Those who use iTunes on a PC to manage their devices, listen to music, and make iTunes purchases will be able to continue to do so.
There were no details provided, however, on what's going to happen when the Music, Podcasts, and TV apps gain new features over time. Whether those features will also come to iTunes on Windows remains to be seen.
For now, though, Windows users will see no changes to iTunes on the Windows platform.
As for Mac users, installing Catalina removes iTunes and replaces it with Music and Podcasts (TV is coming this fall). Device management is still present in macOS Catalina, and you'll see an iPhone or an iPad plugged into your Mac listed as a device in the Finder sidebar.
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iTunes for Windows sucks.
Always has, once it became so over the top bloated.
Why would a Windows user of Apple's iTunes product not receive the same and equal treatment as a Mac user?
Doesn't balance out, and leaves a bad taste as to what else could possibly be the reasoning.
Money where the mouth is, is not a good message, especially in this instance, when ears, eyes, nose and the brain share the part of the body where a mouth resides.
I really would like to.
Thank you for not segregating my head.
Bad news, no more XML:
https://twitter.com/TuneSpan/status/1135699498561236992
I'm still using the especially-installed iTunes 12.6.5 on High Sierra on my desktop iMac for the same reason. I like being able to shop for iOS apps from my Mac and I like having a local cache of all of my signed .ipa files for manual installation when necessary.
From what I understand, once you go to Mojave (and later) this forked version of iTunes (with the app management) no longer works.
So I'll hold on for as long as I can (my MacBook Pro happily runs Mojave with iTunes 12.9.5) and will reevaluate both installations when Catalina drops.
Wow. Who would have thought. I sure as heck wouldn't have. Maybe AM Radio will have a major comeback too?
Wow. Who would have thought. I sure as heck wouldn't have. Maybe AM Radio will have a major comeback too?
Speaking of radio, many of the podcasts I listen to are podcasts of radio shows without the commercials which makes it great. and whatever topic you are interested in there is no doubt quality podcasts about it. Alot of junk too but alot of good stuff