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'iTunes Match' Allows Both Streaming and Downloading of Music
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0.01% might not be a low enough number.
According to a poll in the UK, the average male owns 292 CDs, and the average female 217 CDs. And according to a survey in 2004 among 412 college students in the US, the mean number of CDs owned was 103.
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So, you spend tens of thousands on CDs and then you make crappy rips of them? Because if you would get your CD ripped in less than one minute, you get a crappy rip. So I guess I understand why someone doing that would need iTunes Match... But then I can't see why such a person would actually spend all that money buying music...
(And I see that you joined today, Let me be the first to welcome you!)
Thanks for the speculative analysis of my music library's origins. Going back to my question before all these pointless theories as to why mine is bigger than yours...
Anyone found a way to get around the 25K song limit or only match part of the iTunes library?
So, you spend tens of thousands on CDs and then you make crappy rips of them? Because if you would get your CD ripped in less than one minute, you get a crappy rip.
AAC 360 VBR ...
With a Mac Pro 3,33 6 cores and a good superdrive, believe me it takes only one minute to rip a CD with 10 songs !!
and the quality is really really good !! Nothing crappy with them !
So I guess I understand why someone doing that would need iTunes Match... But then I can't see why such a person would actually spend all that money buying music...
As I said, I like the objects. I loved vynils for their covers. I love special limitied edition for boxes or cds. I buy my books too !!! And i want to keep them safe the longer I can.
So i use my rips when i travel or at work!
Something wrong with it ?
(And I see that you joined today, Let me be the first to welcome you!)
Oh i just forgot my former account name :/ .. yeah im getting older :L
But thank you for your welcome =)
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AAC 360 VBR ...
With a Mac Pro 3,33 6 cores and a good superdrive, believe me it takes only one minute to rip a CD with 10 songs !!
and the quality is really really good !! Nothing crappy with them !
So I guess I understand why someone doing that would need iTunes Match... But then I can't see why such a person would actually spend all that money buying music...
As I said, I like the objects. I loved vynils for their covers. I love special limitied edition for boxes or cds. I buy my books too !!! And i want to keep them safe the longer I can.
So i use my rips when i travel or at work!
Something wrong with it ?
(And I see that you joined today, Let me be the first to welcome you!)
Oh i just forgot my former account name :/ .. yeah im getting older :L
But thank you for your welcome =)
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So, question for anyone who is personally familiar with this service. Are you still able to use the likes of playlists? Are your star ratings honored? Are they available on other devices? Can you rate songs on the cloud?
Yeah, i know. I'm not that stupid !!!
BUt i dont need lossless for pop and rock music .. .For classic and jazz yes !!!
I said most of the time i rip with AAC at 320 !!! Its already hard to tell the difference between that and a lossless if you dont have a really good installation !! So I'm quiet happy with my AAC 320 for now
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I have no idea whether you, TimeMachine86, or wovel who all say that you have legal digital collections well above 50,000 songs are truthful or not. But statistically speaking, considering the mean average songs owned, I'd rather bet on you all downloading than none of you...
Edit: I'd also like to welcome Sam250, who also joined today!
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This, I think Apple has been pretty clear about. If your music exists on their server they will use 256 kbps AAC. If your music does not exist on their server, or cannot be matched, they will use your actual song, uploaded to their server. So I suppose the answer will be they use your lossless only in cases where they cannot match it with an existing AAC file on their server.
Nothing wrong with this, though. I expect the matching service supports a great deal of what makes this technically viable and so low in price. I know there are people who think there is a massive difference between lossless and 256 kbps AAC but sometimes they can be quite overly dramatic about it. I love music and have extremely high quality music equipment but it is extremely hard to detect differences at that point. It seems a very reasonable tradeoff for not storing music on the device. And of course, the service is optional.
Here's a question to anyone who can answer it...
I have a MBP that has my entire music collection on it. Would it be possible to move it over to an external harddrive that I leave at home and still be able to access the streaming feature on my MBP when I am elsewhere (say at work)?
Would I need a special harddrive to do this (Time Machine)?
I'm also contemplating picking up a cinema display, don't know if that would make a difference with this or not
I have a MBP that has my entire music collection on it. Would it be possible to move it over to an external harddrive that I leave at home and still be able to access the streaming feature on my MBP when I am elsewhere (say at work)?
Would I need a special harddrive to do this (Time Machine)?
I'm also contemplating picking up a cinema display, don't know if that would make a difference with this or not
Ahh, I see what you were saying now:
You were saying that AAC is good quality, and that (Apple) lossless is good quality as well. Phrased it a bit awkwardly. It looked like you were saying "AAC is good quality ... (and AAC is) lossless too!!"
By the way, it's "lossless", not "loseless"
Cheers!
Fixing Songs
What I really want is something that fixes songs. I have a lot of music (all legally purchased) that is at lower bit rates (ripped it from my legally owned CD's back when hard drives were smaller) and I have some music that somehow is broken, the ends of songs are lost so instead of being 3 minutes and 45 seconds it is 3 minutes and 20 seconds (for example).
What I would like is for iTunes to go through my music library and download the fixed, full length, full bit rate versions of all of my music that it can find. It should move the old copies into another folder and prepare a text report explaining what it did to solve problems and any other problems it noted that are not solved.
This is not hard to do, just time consuming for a human to do. Machines are great at this sort of thing.
What I really want is something that fixes songs. I have a lot of music (all legally purchased) that is at lower bit rates (ripped it from my legally owned CD's back when hard drives were smaller) and I have some music that somehow is broken, the ends of songs are lost so instead of being 3 minutes and 45 seconds it is 3 minutes and 20 seconds (for example).
What I would like is for iTunes to go through my music library and download the fixed, full length, full bit rate versions of all of my music that it can find. It should move the old copies into another folder and prepare a text report explaining what it did to solve problems and any other problems it noted that are not solved.
This is not hard to do, just time consuming for a human to do. Machines are great at this sort of thing.
So if you steal my wallet, and use the cash to buy a new tv, you'd consider that TV to now be 'legitimate' and no crime committed?
Replacing a stolen file with a 'legitimate' copy, whose license is based on your legal ownership of the source file in the first place, doesn't suddenly exonerate you.
All I can provide is speculation and based on that speculation provide a solution
With the little knowledge we have, I would think your best bet would be to continue to have the iTunes library (not just the audio files but the xml, folder structure, etc) on your external drive (no special hard drive needed) and then create a second library on your MBP hard drive. When you're home, use the external library, when you're away, open up the MBP library and I would assume that if it was authorized with your iTunes Account you should be able to see (and stream) your entire collection (assuming all of it was matched).
Thnanks D: Sorry for my bad english
And i read an average male has 292 cds D:
I guess if i look at my Cdtheque 292 would only make all my Cds/Single/remixes/Boxset/Vynils i have by Tori Amos and Madonna.
2 artists !!!
So guess how i can reach easily more than 25'000 tunes !!
The problem is , i know iTunes Match wont find lots of my tunes !
but as I have more than 25'000 in iTUnes it will just refuse to scan my library to see what would match or not !!!
I'm so sure i would never reach the 25'000 as I have lots of rare french songs, remixes or official bootlegs (was surprised to see iTunes Store having the ones by Tori D: , that's great) !
This is why I want an higher plan !!
To have the chance for my library to be scanned !
For now, with beta 1, it doesnt give you a chance to. Just telling you its over the 25k! so no iTunes Match for me
See my problem ?
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Once you've laundered 25,000 songs, can you download and keep them permanently, ie, they don't disappear at the end of the year or you must continue renewing the subscription to keep them?
I don't mean to get into an audiophile argument here, but the difference between a 320 rip and lossless is nonexistent
re original article
looks like a promising start
hope to see more refinements led by customer input
and keep the price low
looks like a promising start
hope to see more refinements led by customer input
and keep the price low
iTunes Match is a long overdue service that needed to be offered by Apple. Looks really good value for money and offers a great solution for some people.
However I really wish Apple would offer another subscription to rival Spotify Premium. That service really appeals to me and my situation more.
However I really wish Apple would offer another subscription to rival Spotify Premium. That service really appeals to me and my situation more.
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So if you steal my wallet, and use the cash to buy a new tv, you'd consider that TV to now be 'legitimate' and no crime committed?
Replacing a stolen file with a 'legitimate' copy, whose license is based on your legal ownership of the source file in the first place, doesn't suddenly exonerate you.
If the person you bought your new "legitimate" TV from would know that the money you used to paid for it was stolen, he would commit a crime.
Apple can, when looking at the files that a user wants to match, identify a large number of illegally obtained files.
Not sure how it was able to strike a deal with the RIAA without them being required to do so, and instead allowing iTunes Match users to launder and upgrade illegally obtained files. And this for a measly $25/year....
As far as i have seen they haven't clearly stated what will happen if you have a ripped CD in lossless that is available in iTunes+. While the upgrade of say a 128kbps mp3 is a good thing, I'm sure people who have some music in lossless would not want the service to replace their hard copy in iTunes to be replaced.
I didn't mention lossless music that doesn't match with the iTunes store.
WOW. That's like 491 days of music, assuming 8 hours a day of listening and 4 minutes per song....
Not trying to be snotty- More impressed than anything!
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Thanks for the welcome and your opinions on my music library. I will cherish them both! Hopefully when I've been here for 6 months (like you), I'll still remember that forums are places to ask and answer questions, not places to go on and on about topics nobody (besides you) asked or cares about.
If anyone finds a workaround for the 25K limit, please share. Thanks!!!