I just had a nuclear explosion in my mind. I'm a Spotify premium user with many gigs of 'free' downloads. Question: Can this service match these downloads for euphony and glory!
Why do I need to pay anyone anything to be able to do this? I have an always-on internet connection, I'd be plenty happy to stream my music from my home computer.
You are correct. I was acting under the assumption that most people had already done that.
My bad.
Will the streaming work over 3G? If so I'm sure AT&T and Verizon will not like that.
Spotify= $4.99 per month = $59.98 per year.
iTunes Match = $24.95 Per year.
Will this work over your Wireless Carrier 3G or Edge connection?
Spotify= $4.99 per month = $59.98 per year.
iTunes Match = $24.95 Per year.
What the little demo didn't show is what exactly happens with that file he downloaded. Is it accessible in the Finder to be "kept forever" or has the computer truly become just another iOS-style "device" where the underlying file system is not really accessible, and the downloaded track is only visible or able to manipulated from within iTunes? Is the iTunes Library now like the iPhoto Library?
Personally I don't care, but there were some heated arguments a while back about whether iTunes Match would be purely streaming or would actually let customers "keep" all the 256kbps files they could possibly download/hoard, essentially making it an all-you-can-eat buffet for a one-time $25 fee. Looks like the streaming is clearly in place, but whether or not downloading means "for keeps" remains to be seen. My prediction: no.
Also curious if the latest iTunes will close the CD-burning loophole. Apple's deal with the record companies on this is suddenly believable if all the tracks are "trapped" inside of iTunes on the various devices, including computers.
Piggie said:Ok, a very realistic scenario (even though we are not supposed to mention it) but I've lived with a few teenagers and their music collections.
They go to some torrent site and download the latest album they want, then they have the MP3 files, unknown bit rate, onto their Mac or PC.
They have this new service from Apple. Are we still saying the same thing we did months ago, that Apple will identify these illegal downloaded tracks and replace them for free with official iTunes tracks that you can then download/stream in the future in the exact same was as if they bought them from iTunes in the 1st place?
I'm curious what happens if the user ripped the track at a higher bitrate. I'm happy for the cloud version to be 256kbps (for streaming) as long as if it ever syncs to a machine that has my higher quality version it doesn't try and replace the file with the lower quality one.Noticed a few others have asked this but haven't seen an answer so wondering if anyone knows...
If you have ripped music of low quality 128kbps, then you pay for the itunes match service, it will upgrade the music to 256kbps if they have the same songs on the itunes store. So if I cancel the service do I own the 256kbps version or the 128kbps?
Ok, a very realistic scenario (even though we are not supposed to mention it) but I've lived with a few teenagers and their music collections.
They go to some torrent site and download the latest album they want, then they have the MP3 files, unknown bit rate, onto their Mac or PC.
They have this new service from Apple. Are we still saying the same thing we did months ago, that Apple will identify these illegal downloaded tracks and replace them for free with official iTunes tracks that you can then download/stream in the future in the exact same was as if they bought them from iTunes in the 1st place?
I'm wondering if there are going to be nefarious programs out there that will try to "game" the system.
What I mean is, someone writes a program that makes an mp3 song file that "fools" the iTunes match system into thinking you have that song on your system...then it just automatically gives you that song from their iCloud servers.
Let's say I don't own "Oh Darlin" on Abbey Road by The Beatles. I fire up this hypothetical program, it makes a random mp3 file that's just noise, but it's the same size as "Oh Darlin" and has all the meta-data about the song attached to it and it puts it in my iTunes library. Then iTunes match comes along, see's "oh, he has "Oh Darlin" now, let's make available the 256-bit version to him on our servers". Wham...free song without having to go to Pirate Bay or wherever.
They have safe-guards against this? Just curious.
Ok, a very realistic scenario (even though we are not supposed to mention it) but I've lived with a few teenagers and their music collections.
They go to some torrent site and download the latest album they want, then they have the MP3 files, unknown bit rate, onto their Mac or PC.
They have this new service from Apple. Are we still saying the same thing we did months ago, that Apple will identify these illegal downloaded tracks and replace them for free with official iTunes tracks that you can then download/stream in the future in the exact same was as if they bought them from iTunes in the 1st place?
No, they added the option to upgrade songs for 30c per album - it would be great to pay the $25 once to have all of your old DRMed music upgraded to iTunes Plus.
Tuck
That will happen, yes. But look at it this way. Previously the industry was making $0 from these users. Now they make $25. It's not a lot, but it's more than they otherwise would have received.
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What exactly does this service offer that I can't already do with an app like Audio Tap? I paid $1.99 and I stream everything from my computer to my iPhone over 3G or wifi. I can even create playlists. It works perfectly.
I'm just not getting that this service will do anything I haven't already been doing for ages, that is, avoid ever needing to sync music to my phone and just streaming all 20,000 or so songs from my computer.
Am I missing something here?
Feel free to enlighten me then. They must have come to a conclusion similar to what I stated otherwise they wouldn't have gone through with the deal. The record companies aren't daft enough to have not worked out that users would attempt to use illegitimate copies to gain ones from Apple.You dont know the music industry operates, that much is clear
(and no, theyre not making 25 by apple charging 25.)
i just need itunes to raise the song total to about 30k songs and include tv show uploads, and we're in business
i wonder
1. if this is a wi-fi only feature
2. how will it adapt to recognizing user created song tags