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iTunes Movie Rentals Coming?
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It seemed as if--even with the amount of announcements--some things were missing from Wednesday's shindig.
1) No beatles
2) No movie deal
3) No storage increases for shuffle & nano
4) No bluetooth and built in radio for nano & classic
I think the reason for lack of capacity increases are based on the market. Either Apple won't pay higher prices, or the shortages are affecting the lower-end flash market.
I would hope for this to be resolved come MacWorld; that would allow 2GB & 4GB shuffles with 8GB, 12GB, & 16GB nanos next fall.
Maybe Apple will never include radio. But why, then, do they sell $49 the accessory? Is the actual price too expensive to include by default in iPods? If digital radio is the future, and the classic and nano never have wifi, how are they supposed to have radio? I would really really love an FM tuner.
But what I don't get: why not include bluetooth for wireless syncing? Is it also too expensive?
-=|Mgkwho
1) No beatles
2) No movie deal
3) No storage increases for shuffle & nano
4) No bluetooth and built in radio for nano & classic
I think the reason for lack of capacity increases are based on the market. Either Apple won't pay higher prices, or the shortages are affecting the lower-end flash market.
I would hope for this to be resolved come MacWorld; that would allow 2GB & 4GB shuffles with 8GB, 12GB, & 16GB nanos next fall.
Maybe Apple will never include radio. But why, then, do they sell $49 the accessory? Is the actual price too expensive to include by default in iPods? If digital radio is the future, and the classic and nano never have wifi, how are they supposed to have radio? I would really really love an FM tuner.
But what I don't get: why not include bluetooth for wireless syncing? Is it also too expensive?
-=|Mgkwho
Blockbuster, because it now out-netflixes netflix with in-store exchange. Best of both worlds. I also like downloading from iTunes (Netflix download doesn't work with macs). The only problem with Blockbuster is that they are always handing out coupons that are too confusing to figure out how to use.
2002: Blockbuster
2003: Blockbuster (+Netflix)
2004: Netflix
2005: Netflix
2006. Netflix (+Blockbuster)
2007: Blockbuster (+ iTunes)
2008: Blockbuster + iTunes
2009: iTunes
This is what I've been waiting for inTV. I won't even consider getting one until this happens.
I love my AppleTV. Video podcasts are much more enjoyable watching on TV while sitting in my recliner, and I've downloaded a number of TV shows too. Even audio podcasts (like NPR's Science Fridays) are enjoyable through the stereo while relaxing in an easy chair.
However, video rental will be the killer-app for AppleTV. If Apple brings this out, they will continue separating me from my money.
Ding, ding, ding. And we have a winner! That pretty much sums up why there should be two different financial models for two different media types.
Knowing Apple, they will release a DVD-quality version at 480p, then later you will be able to re-rent the same movie at HD of 720p. And then still later you can re-re-rent the same movie at a "true" HD of 1080p.
I thoroughly agree... for some content. Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, etc., are movies that I am going to buy on commercial DVDs (and usually multiple times in different versions and formats
). I like the quality, the longevity, the extras, the case, etc.However, for most movies and TV shows, I just want to watch them once.
i would do rental movies through itunes. in fact, this would be perfect since i now have a commute on the train and i watch shows on my iphone all the time. i haven't purchased a lot of movies from the itunes store since i'm not sure if i'll like them and i don't want to pay full price if that's the case.
what they need to make sure they do is add an option to buy after you've rented it - at least allow people to pay only the remaining amount of the full price after the rental.
what they need to make sure they do is add an option to buy after you've rented it - at least allow people to pay only the remaining amount of the full price after the rental.
I was hoping some
New Apple TVs will come when a rental service is announced, with the double, and possibly triple whammy of goodness, too many people will be unable to resist.
You know its funny, I have touted this same logic myself and then look up to my shelf and see over 200 DVDs and realize that its not true. While I may not watch a movie over and over, there is something about owning it that is attractive. Its the same way I feel about books. I love collecting books and have many bookshelves full of books I will only read once or twice!
Go figure
Kevin
This seems like a candidate for an intentional leak.
Apple has thus far had to drag the music, TV and movie industry by the nose to get them to embrace digital downloads. Part of the problem is that those industries must rethink their traditional revenue streams in order for this to work and it appears that they are not willing to go all the way. Witness the way Apple, even now, has a hard time retaining some of them.
So, what a better way to send shockwaves through those very groups but to signal, surreptitiously via the rumor sites (so it can simultaneously be denied) that there is a rental system in the pipeline. It's a nice little treat for the rumor site regulars but even moreso, it's something to make those content providers who are sitting on the fence quake in their boots. So, NBC thinks Amazon's Unbox is the way to go? I think a movie and TV rental service on iTunes would all but wipe the playing field clean. I seriously don't see how any competitors could survive in that atmosphere. And knowing that, I imagine some execs at NBC might be having some very unpleasant dreams in the coming weeks and doing some serious soul-searching when it comes to their attitude toward iTunes.
I could be totally off-base, but this big a gaffe seems really unlikely to have been an accident. The only other time it has happened was the G5 "premature specification." Not much of a history for accidental slips on Apple's part.
Apple has thus far had to drag the music, TV and movie industry by the nose to get them to embrace digital downloads. Part of the problem is that those industries must rethink their traditional revenue streams in order for this to work and it appears that they are not willing to go all the way. Witness the way Apple, even now, has a hard time retaining some of them.
So, what a better way to send shockwaves through those very groups but to signal, surreptitiously via the rumor sites (so it can simultaneously be denied) that there is a rental system in the pipeline. It's a nice little treat for the rumor site regulars but even moreso, it's something to make those content providers who are sitting on the fence quake in their boots. So, NBC thinks Amazon's Unbox is the way to go? I think a movie and TV rental service on iTunes would all but wipe the playing field clean. I seriously don't see how any competitors could survive in that atmosphere. And knowing that, I imagine some execs at NBC might be having some very unpleasant dreams in the coming weeks and doing some serious soul-searching when it comes to their attitude toward iTunes.
I could be totally off-base, but this big a gaffe seems really unlikely to have been an accident. The only other time it has happened was the G5 "premature specification." Not much of a history for accidental slips on Apple's part.
Blanket Comments?
Hi guys, whats with all the blanket comments such as:
"People don't want to own movies, they watch them once like me. People want music because I listen to a song maybe 100~1000 times."
Well, that's great. For you. I hope when apple snoops are reading these pages they actually don't pay too much attention. Because I FOR one, love owning my own films, because I actually watch them more than once. Remember not too long ago, all those images of the "Fat Boy" that were leaked? A lot of people started protesting that Apple had lost the plot. Since the Keynote, most have changed their tunes. I am glad they didn't run back to the drawing board, because "to me" it's a fantastic product.
All I know is, we all have differenet requirements when it comes to online purchases and how we consume media. I hope Apple can give us a diverse range of options for purchasing / renting. They own the market, so I guess until now, they have been doing something right.
Hi guys, whats with all the blanket comments such as:
"People don't want to own movies, they watch them once like me. People want music because I listen to a song maybe 100~1000 times."
Well, that's great. For you. I hope when apple snoops are reading these pages they actually don't pay too much attention. Because I FOR one, love owning my own films, because I actually watch them more than once. Remember not too long ago, all those images of the "Fat Boy" that were leaked? A lot of people started protesting that Apple had lost the plot. Since the Keynote, most have changed their tunes. I am glad they didn't run back to the drawing board, because "to me" it's a fantastic product.
All I know is, we all have differenet requirements when it comes to online purchases and how we consume media. I hope Apple can give us a diverse range of options for purchasing / renting. They own the market, so I guess until now, they have been doing something right.
I'm with you there on No. 3 and bluetooth but I just don't understand the continuous request for radio. If most markets are like the Boston market then why would anyone want radio? All they do is talk and play ads. Good radio is gone. Give me music or give me dead air!
Note: I just paid a visit to another market and was pleasantly surprised at how much better the stations were. Let's hope the influences of corporate radio here don't spread into your area.
I dont understand the desire for wireless syncing (too slow, doesnt charge the device, and burns the batteries up in the process) or radio..
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This was only a matter of time. Apple refreshed the entire iPod line for a reason. They all play video now (save the shuffle obviously) and, perhaps, they have some hardware aspects that make them compatible with a future DRM scheme for rental video. Of course, that means our iPhones also have said hardware. Someone should investigate!
My view is this: I don't have the time or patience for movie theaters much these days primarily due to the audience. It's not fun when someone cell goes off, people have loud conversations, or parents bring their six month old to a show. It's not a pleasant experience. What the studios SHOULD do is do digital rental and theatrical release the same day. And if that isn't an option fine... I still would like to easily rent a movie digitally before deciding to go out and buy the DVD. I use Blockbuster.com right now but the days between returning and getting your new DVD sucks. When I decide to watch a movie I want to watch it right now. I don't want the hassle of having to wait a few days or driving to the local Blockbuster.
And while pay-per-view is a good step it sucks for those of us who have Tivo and can't access our cable providers pay-per-view content.
I've held off on buying anTV because I don't want to spend $14.99 on a gamble. If they make rental an option then I will gladly give Apple my $299.
And while pay-per-view is a good step it sucks for those of us who have Tivo and can't access our cable providers pay-per-view content.
I've held off on buying an
TV because I don't want to spend $14.99 on a gamble. If they make rental an option then I will gladly give Apple my $299.
I would love to see how this is implemented, if you dont get to watch the full thing, or your computer crashed before you watched the whole thing, i have a hard time seeing how this will be taken care of during issues where ur computer craps out or u have to leave for that emergency thing that happens
yea....you seen one movie about kidneys...you've pretty much seen 'em all!
I noticed the reference to "AccidentalPurchase-RenalMovie".
Why would Apple assume that accidental purchases would be exclusively for movies about kidneys?
yea....you seen one movie about kidneys...you've pretty much seen 'em all!
Rental is the way! Start watching while you're downloading a must. a combination with Netflix would be a hit!
I registered just so I could post this comment...
I think that this is true (gosh i hope it is). I hope that Apple offers a couple different pricing models. One might be where you rent an individual movie for, say, $2.99 and get the whole 30 day viewing deal on any two devices. But as a low-income college student, I would much rather see a Netflix-style subscription basis, where you pay something like $20 - $25 a month and get any number of movies you want.
The advantage of this would be that the people who want to watch the occasional movie would get their easy price ($2.99), but the "hardcore" movie addicts would get an amazingly awesome deal of being able to download and watch, say, a movie a day for the price it would cost to buy 1 or 2.
On top of that, I expect that we'll see the iTunes WiFi store come to theTV. It's already got the wireless connection, and even if a home doesn't necessarily have a wireless router, all Macs with a wireless card also have the "Internet Sharing" preference, basically turning the Mac into a wireless router. So think about it. You're sitting there on your couch thinking "what should I do this evening?" So you activate your TV, start browsing the store, find a movie you want to watch, start downloading it, watch it, and have it automatically synced to your Mac for viewing (again) later, if you want.
Holy cow that would be freaking sweet.
Dave
I think that this is true (gosh i hope it is). I hope that Apple offers a couple different pricing models. One might be where you rent an individual movie for, say, $2.99 and get the whole 30 day viewing deal on any two devices. But as a low-income college student, I would much rather see a Netflix-style subscription basis, where you pay something like $20 - $25 a month and get any number of movies you want.
The advantage of this would be that the people who want to watch the occasional movie would get their easy price ($2.99), but the "hardcore" movie addicts would get an amazingly awesome deal of being able to download and watch, say, a movie a day for the price it would cost to buy 1 or 2.
On top of that, I expect that we'll see the iTunes WiFi store come to the
TV. It's already got the wireless connection, and even if a home doesn't necessarily have a wireless router, all Macs with a wireless card also have the "Internet Sharing" preference, basically turning the Mac into a wireless router. So think about it. You're sitting there on your couch thinking "what should I do this evening?" So you activate your TV, start browsing the store, find a movie you want to watch, start downloading it, watch it, and have it automatically synced to your Mac for viewing (again) later, if you want.Holy cow that would be freaking sweet.
Dave
funny. you can thank them of clearing the radio of actual music and providing a clear channel for ads.
So when would the announcement be?
The early September ipod thing is over, which they have done in the past. I usually don't expect much until January from here on out so is there a 'traditional' time that apple announces such a significant new feature that possibly touches apple tv, ipod touch, iphone and obviously itunes? Leopard release perhaps.
The early September ipod thing is over, which they have done in the past. I usually don't expect much until January from here on out so is there a 'traditional' time that apple announces such a significant new feature that possibly touches apple tv, ipod touch, iphone and obviously itunes? Leopard release perhaps.