iTunes Movies to be sold for $9.99?

[SeaFox]

And yeah, maybe BT isn't exactly legal, but it's like taping it with a VCR or Tivoing it.

No, it's not like that at all. Taping with a VCR or Tivoing are legitimate recording for personal use. You recorded it, you already paid for the initial showing with you cable bill or the ads shown in the program. When you download something with BitTorrent, you copying the file from another location. Multiple people in the public are ending up with a recording taken by one user, and many times these recording are DVD rips. That's copyright infringement.

 

[golfstud]

oh and btw

High School Musical is this years Napoleon Dynamite...
my middle schoolers have watched it three or four times already!!!
and the album is climbing the charts...

but then again when I was 12 I had the BRADY BUNCH ALBUM! so meah

 

[gunm]

Rats, now I wish I downloaded the thing at $1.99. $10 is too much for a low quality download. I'd sooner spend the regular price on a DVD and then the extra time to rip it however I want. If Apple somehow makes their downloads scalable (similar to Audible's methods of downloading for audiobooks), where you can pick from different quality/sizes, and including unlimited streaming, then I'd reconsider.

 

[iProd]

Isn't the 6G iPod supposed to be widescreen?

That's what I was getting at

 

[golfstud]

oh and one more consumer thing...

concerning video

I can't tell you how many people don't understand resolution!

It seems EVERYONE thinks current DVDs are HI DEFINITION!!!

forget that 720i, 720p, 1080i are just enhanced definition redifined.

I can see a day where STANDARD DEFINITION video is sold on the internet fairly regularly...leaving HI DEF to the physical media.

In fact wouldn't it be cool if the big-wigs let you buy the BLU RAY disk of the movie and have a code inside the package to dnld the stand def version to your computer...oh I am dreaming...

 

[SeaFox]

Sorry, I guess my comment was written poorly.

I was rolling my eyes at Apple. I believe $10 is WAY too much for a poor quality video.

Oh, no. I knew you were rolling your eyes at Apple, and I agree. $10 is simply too much for this crappy resolution when you can get a copy in full DVD quality with 5.1 sound and extras for sometimes half the price of the iTunes copy. Where's the logic in that? There's no instant gratification like with the music side when it takes an hour for a movie to download. Even new movies are going to be maybe $5-10 more than the iTunes copy.

If there was no way to get video onto an iPod other than to buy the movies from an Apple Video Store, maybe. But really, when you can take a DVD and rip it so easily, there's no competition. And there's no DRM to have authentication problems with 10 yrs from now.

 

[SeaFox]

High School Musical is this years Napoleon Dynamite...

That's a horrible comparison! It's the sort of crap quote you see on a film's trailer, only it's being made by someone you never heard of from "NBC-Radio".

Napoleon Dynamite was a critically accliamed indie film. The only people raving about High School Musical are too young to drive or are on the Disney Channel themselves.

 

[iMeowbot]

Oh, no. I knew you were rolling your eyes at Apple, and I agree. $10 is simply too much for this crappy resolution when you can get a copy in full DVD quality with 5.1 sound and extras for sometimes half the price of the iTunes copy.

One thing that is a little different about this particular movie is that Disney won't be shipping it on DVD until June. This may be the only way for kids who don't have the Disney Channel to get a copy.

 

[EricNau]

Oh, no. I knew you were rolling your eyes at Apple, and I agree. $10 is simply too much for this crappy resolution when you can get a copy in full DVD quality with 5.1 sound and extras for sometimes half the price of the iTunes copy. Where's the logic in that? There's no instant gratification like with the music side when it takes an hour for a movie to download. Even new movies are going to be maybe $5-10 more than the iTunes copy.

If there was no way to get video onto an iPod other than to buy the movies from an Apple Video Store, maybe. But really, when you can take a DVD and rip it so easily, there's no competition. And there's no DRM to have authentication problems with 10 yrs from now.

Oh, ok. Then we're on the same page.

 

[Multimedia]

$9.99 is too high

There is no way $9.99 is a reasonable price for a 320x240 movie. That is INSANE pricing.

You can HandBrake a beautiful 2500 kbps 640 x 360 rip that will look way better on your TV and still load on Video iPod from a similarly priced DVD. This pricing is ridiculous. The $1.99 - $3.99 price range is more appropriate.

 

[SeaFox]

One thing that is a little different about this particular movie is that Disney won't be shipping it on DVD until June. This may be the only way for kids who don't have the Disney Channel to get a copy.

Except if they taped it...

But yeah, I do see your point there. For the early release, gotta have it now, group, there is a market.

But $10 is still too much.

 

[camphorsunrise]

$10 is a descent price

If....It came with a box
If....It came with inserts
If....It had special effects
If....It came with on a DVD
If....It had a higher resolution
If....It had 5.1 or better surround sound
If....I could turn CC on when when I want to
If....I could sell it
If....I could freely and legally change the format
If....It was a good movie


This is just one bad apple.


P.S. The last movie (from Universal Studios I believe) I bought had everything above, and I paid $7.50 for it- Brand new at Wal*Mart.

I'm with you on this one.

 

[camphorsunrise]

No, it's not like that at all. Taping with a VCR or Tivoing are legitimate recording for personal use. You recorded it, you already paid for the initial showing with you cable bill or the ads shown in the program. When you download something with BitTorrent, you copying the file from another location. Multiple people in the public are ending up with a recording taken by one user, and many times these recording are DVD rips. That's copyright infringement.

Regardless, people are going to do it. We can play pretend all we want, but the number of people who pirate is MUCH MUCH higher than those who legitimately pay for their media via iTMS, Napster, etc. Telling someone that downloading a movie over BT is copyright infringement is like telling a smoker that cigarettes cause cancer. They already know, and they don't care. If Apple plans to have a successful legal alternative (movie-wise), they're going to have to get a little more creative than $9.99 for a crappy Disney Channel movie.

Personally, I'm willing to pay a certain amount for the convenience of downloading full length movies from iTMS that are already in the right format for my iPod, but $10 is NOT that amount.

 

[dicklacara]

$9.99

$9.99 Nein!

 

[eva01]

Since a DVD is about $10 - one should expect nothing less.

**** i wish my DVDs that i bought were 10 bucks

over here in my world it is between 20-30+ dollars for a DVD

 

[RiddleKid]

9.99 ...this is not to bad...
Are you sick?
No, i'm serious. As thejadedmonkey pointed already out, you get crappy movies much cheaper than that, IF you want them at all. Most Films and TV-shows are CONSUMING GOODS. Once you are done, you sure won't want eat them again. Most People seems to be to lazy or to stupid to move their asses out to the amazon-site farfaraway or calculate prices. Maybe both.
Lets see: 24x1.99 makes 47,76$.
When was the last time you paid 50 bucks for a TV-series-box? Without any goodies? Not to mention all the other disadvantages? No Hardcopy, no box, no something, still with all that DRM-crap. THX Billsteve you are my hero for that.

For all those who TV-series-junkies: go, get a tv-card, rip it of yourself. It's cheaper, trust me.

Nonetheless: it's just like the musicdownloads. The Musicindustry (no better word for matching for what they are doing...) making much more PROFIT with downloads than CDs. It's true. Google it, you'll find something even on the official pages though they aren't eager to talk about that. But because MI making more profit it's time thinking about raising the prices to make more profit.

And they still keep whining. And mourning. And yammering. Did i already mentioned whining?

You have to pay for your hardware, software, your cell, the games, vacation, raising gas-prices, taxes, mortgages, insurance, BBQ, kids, spouses, funerals and other consuming goods, thousands of pay-services, oh, and of course, ordinary living.
When and if most of us have spare money downloading has to be cheap.
Did i forget anything?

Greetz

 

[terrabytejoe]

Quality-price

Yes it would be a fairly decent price, and it would make sense compared to DVD, but they need to use AT LEAST the same quality of Front Row's movie trailers

 

[aswitcher]

What a shame. This has real promise but I cant see it working with these specs...

 

[Chupa Chupa]

Anyone who thinks $9.99 is a good price for an iPod resolution movie is a true Apple lemming. You can get DVD "cut outs" now for $7.99. $9.99 for a movie that only looks good on a 2" screen is what we call in the trade, a "rip off." It's not unlike Sony's UMDs for PSP, though maybe a tad less expensive. Then again, I think .99 for a 128mbps encoded song is kinda pricey but people go nuts downloading entire albums when they could have the higher quality CD for about the same price.

 

[tny]

Is it tragically shrunk and compressed like the "Video" iPod clips, or is it something in the VHS-DVD range? (640x480 with square pixels)

1080p is too much to expect - but if Apple did that iTunes might have one more customer.


Since a DVD is about $10 - one should expect nothing less.

1. VHS is nowhere near true 640x480 - more like 486x240 (compared to iTunes' 320x240) though I don't know all the details; 2. most DVDs, unless they're more than 5 years old, are more in the $15-20 range than the $10 range.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

Yes it would be a fairly decent price, and it would make sense compared to DVD, but they need to use AT LEAST the same quality of Front Row's movie trailers

If it were the same resolution as FR trailers the rez would be too high to work on an iPod, and even if it did it would kill the battery very quickly.

2. most DVDs, unless they're more than 5 years old, are more in the $15-20 range than the $10 range.

You can easily get new releases on release week for $12-13. 20% more than what an iTunes movie would cost but 100% more versatile and better resolution.

 

[reyesmac]

At $1.99 it is faster and easier to download the movie from Apple. At $9.99 it is cheaper and easier to download the movie from somewhere else, or buy the real dvd and get all the extras. I don't see why this would be a deal for me. I still can't stream it to my tv, and I wouldn't want to buy a mini just so I can hook it up to the tv to watch a movie I wouldn't pay $9.99 for. They need to work on this.

 

[aLbAn]

No, it's not like that at all. Taping with a VCR or Tivoing are legitimate recording for personal use. You recorded it, you already paid for the initial showing with you cable bill or the ads shown in the program. When you download something with BitTorrent, you copying the file from another location. Multiple people in the public are ending up with a recording taken by one user, and many times these recording are DVD rips. That's copyright infringement.

Okay, so maybe some people can shed some light on the following situation?

Suppose that a certain movie was on the telly last night, and that i forgot to tape/TiVo it. i would still really like to have a recording of it, so i download it (without paying for it, if you understand my meaning )
According to the above quote, this would be legal because i already paid my cable bill, which in turn is a payment for the movie that was on last night? i mean, you are not paying for bits and bytes, but for the content that those bits and bytes represent, right? (otherwise all movies that fill a dvd (9 gigs) should have the same price, and they don't, so there...). So, if i am paying for Content, it should not make a difference whether i download this movie that was shown on TV last night or that i TiVoed it last night?

 

[jmeyoung]

I hope they make the quality of movies at least that of a DVD - but I know they won't. What should I expect for $10?

For $10, you should expect the quality of a DVD. I can go buy used DVDs at a thrift store for $5.99. Yeah, it's used, but that doesn't change the quality when it plays.

 

[Dunepilot]

I suppose it wasn't realistic to think we would be buying movies for $1.99. Sure woulda sold a lot of them though... $9.99 still isn't bad.

That's priced too high for me. I wouldn't buy movies on this basis.