I would think this is directly related to the sparse amount of quality music offerings - but if they do happen to exclusively get the Beatles catlogue that would help in the short term...
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iTunes Store Seeing Revenue Crunch?
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(Puts on tinfoil hat)
The underlying message I got from the article was that "its not only CD sales that are suffering from piracy now, but online retailers are now starting to see the effects." Maybe this is going to be a harbinger of more articles showing that people are not buying music but using services like bittorrent et al. Then its a simple further step for the RIAA to say that iPods are just full of pirated materials and they should be recompensed for each one sold. (Actually they already are saying that aren't they, just now they have some 'evidence' to back it up). Its going to be interesting to see where this goes but I have a feeling we are going to see more articles like this.
The underlying message I got from the article was that "its not only CD sales that are suffering from piracy now, but online retailers are now starting to see the effects." Maybe this is going to be a harbinger of more articles showing that people are not buying music but using services like bittorrent et al. Then its a simple further step for the RIAA to say that iPods are just full of pirated materials and they should be recompensed for each one sold. (Actually they already are saying that aren't they, just now they have some 'evidence' to back it up). Its going to be interesting to see where this goes but I have a feeling we are going to see more articles like this.
I hate to play devils advocate here, but why!
We all know the way around the DRM, so what's the big deal.
Other products have similar forms of security, do you boycott them too?
The fact is this, if you don't like music with a DRM then buy it elsewhere. Of course we all know that it will cost more or may not be 100% legal (allofmp3.com).
For the average person, the DRM is not an issue. So why is it for you.
Since January 2006...
Didn't Apple have 3 conference calls since then?
None of them showed any drop in iTunes music sales.If there really IS a 65% drop since "Jan.2006" this drop must have taken place after August 2006 because sales were on a steady increase.
Sorry I don't believe this..
Didn't Apple have 3 conference calls since then?
None of them showed any drop in iTunes music sales.If there really IS a 65% drop since "Jan.2006" this drop must have taken place after August 2006 because sales were on a steady increase.
Sorry I don't believe this..
Actually the reason why Itunes revenue is declining is that people bought too many tracks and they all ran out of money to buy anymore! 
Examples of how iTunes destroys things include: http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/soft...f-because-of-lack-of-piracy-skills-216389.php
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/wedding-called-off-over-8k-one-month-itunes-tab/9016
Perhaps Acquisition is coming back into style again?
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/wedding-called-off-over-8k-one-month-itunes-tab/9016
Perhaps Acquisition is coming back into style again?
exactly i thiknk ive purchesed like 4 albums this year to the 10 i purchased last year
Well said, the fact is DRM ISN'T an issue if u know what you are doing
I've bought thousands and thousands of songs from iTunes, and I have all but stopped. I may buy one or two songs now and then, at best.
I love the convenience, but the file quality is just no longer acceptible.
I am not an audiophile, far from it. I am not a music snob. I am just a regular guy who listens to music at home or when biking.
But that is the problem for Apple.
iTunes music was fine was it was being played through cheap ear buds.
But now that people like me are starting to play their digital music through their Bose car stereos and home stereos--such the iPod hifi--or even upgrading to decent headphones, Apple music just doesn't cut it any more.
For a buck or two more, I get DRM free music which I can put in any file format at any quality level for the rest of my life. For me, that's worth it.
It's like the movie store. For a buck or two more, I can get the whole DVD from Amazon. Sure, it take an hour to rip the DVD. But it's not like I sit around and wait for it. I kick it off and walk away...no big deal.
Apple needs to provide customers with an upgrade path to better quality. Charge a little bit for it--that's OK--but give me a way to get my current Apple music to decent quality. (Same goes for all of the video I have bought. Give me a path to quality)
I would start buying again if there was a way to buy high quality music and to upgrade my current collection without re-purchasing it for full price.
I love the convenience, but the file quality is just no longer acceptible.
I am not an audiophile, far from it. I am not a music snob. I am just a regular guy who listens to music at home or when biking.
But that is the problem for Apple.
iTunes music was fine was it was being played through cheap ear buds.
But now that people like me are starting to play their digital music through their Bose car stereos and home stereos--such the iPod hifi--or even upgrading to decent headphones, Apple music just doesn't cut it any more.
For a buck or two more, I get DRM free music which I can put in any file format at any quality level for the rest of my life. For me, that's worth it.
It's like the movie store. For a buck or two more, I can get the whole DVD from Amazon. Sure, it take an hour to rip the DVD. But it's not like I sit around and wait for it. I kick it off and walk away...no big deal.
Apple needs to provide customers with an upgrade path to better quality. Charge a little bit for it--that's OK--but give me a way to get my current Apple music to decent quality. (Same goes for all of the video I have bought. Give me a path to quality)
I would start buying again if there was a way to buy high quality music and to upgrade my current collection without re-purchasing it for full price.
So I take it you don't purchase DVDs because they need to be "unlocked" by DVD players' macrovision decoder?
Good point. They say the free market has its ways of dictating things, and this may just be what is needed!
Nope, the only DVDs I buy now are strictly Criterion Collection ones. Everything else suck mostly.
I know the true reason why there has been a decline.....
There was no Pepsi/iTunes giveaway this past year.
I found that every year there was one, when I was done downloading my maximum I was in a groove and would keep downloading older songs and such. Now It takes a lot for me to actually think of a song that I want from yesteryear, see if it is on iTunes and then download it.
I agree with whoever said it on the first page though, there is a serious lack of good music out there right now.
There was no Pepsi/iTunes giveaway this past year.
I found that every year there was one, when I was done downloading my maximum I was in a groove and would keep downloading older songs and such. Now It takes a lot for me to actually think of a song that I want from yesteryear, see if it is on iTunes and then download it.
I agree with whoever said it on the first page though, there is a serious lack of good music out there right now.
I agree - i normally buy CD's because I like to see them by my Hi-fi, but I must agree that it doesn't sound great on the Hi-fi, although it is fine for a bit - podcasts are the worst offenders.
However - have you really spent $1000's worth of Music off itunes?
Because kids are cheap(Broke)
Forget about what is right or fair. The reality is people cheat and steal.
Illegal file sharing is growing, because it is easy to do and there is a coolness factor to it(and a thrill factor). Teenagers and students usually don't have a lot of money, so they look for free stuff and you can be sure most of them rarely pay for music out of their own pocket.
Forget about what is right or fair. The reality is people cheat and steal.
Illegal file sharing is growing, because it is easy to do and there is a coolness factor to it(and a thrill factor). Teenagers and students usually don't have a lot of money, so they look for free stuff and you can be sure most of them rarely pay for music out of their own pocket.
derrrrrrrr
How utterly not shocking.
When ITMS first launched, I bought a good amount of music from it to show my support for buying music legally online - even though I didn't think the price at 99 cents a song was very good. I was hoping that if it caught on, which obviously it has, that the price would then drop and people would relax.
But sadly today seems even more hostile than ever concerning DRM and pricing. How sad that Apple has tried so hard to bring online media to the masses for a fair price by working with large media companies only to have them (not Apple) demand more money and more restrictions on the consumer.
I honestly believe that Steve would like the prices to be lower and can only hope that the restrictions looser (password protected on unlimited computers hmm?) but it's just not going to happen. It is so clear now that the music companies and movie companies will do all they can to stop entertainment media from entering a computer.
Interestingly enough, I was privvy to a friends pre-release copy of the "Deftones" new cd, which would not show up in my mac or pc for importing. Each track was digitally watermarked (or so said the paint on the cd face) so they could track the music if somehow I was able to rip it. I wonder how long before every store bought cd is this way?
If the media companies want to rip us off and play hardball, fine. Goodbye wallet and hello p2p.
How utterly not shocking.
When ITMS first launched, I bought a good amount of music from it to show my support for buying music legally online - even though I didn't think the price at 99 cents a song was very good. I was hoping that if it caught on, which obviously it has, that the price would then drop and people would relax.
But sadly today seems even more hostile than ever concerning DRM and pricing. How sad that Apple has tried so hard to bring online media to the masses for a fair price by working with large media companies only to have them (not Apple) demand more money and more restrictions on the consumer.
I honestly believe that Steve would like the prices to be lower and can only hope that the restrictions looser (password protected on unlimited computers hmm?) but it's just not going to happen. It is so clear now that the music companies and movie companies will do all they can to stop entertainment media from entering a computer.
Interestingly enough, I was privvy to a friends pre-release copy of the "Deftones" new cd, which would not show up in my mac or pc for importing. Each track was digitally watermarked (or so said the paint on the cd face) so they could track the music if somehow I was able to rip it. I wonder how long before every store bought cd is this way?
If the media companies want to rip us off and play hardball, fine. Goodbye wallet and hello p2p.
Actually the reason why Itunes revenue is declining is that people bought too many tracks and they all ran out of money to buy anymore!
Scary...I stopped buy music from iTunes precisely because I needed more money for those Criterion Collection DVDs.
I guess I must not be the "average person"? If I pay for a song I want to have the ability to play it on whatever device I want, etc. without having to gain a third party's permission (ie: authorize my player as iTunes requires).
Nice, why doesn't iTunes offer Criterion Collection movies? Get rid of those dumb TV shows.