iTunes Store Won't Work on Original Apple TV and Windows XP/Vista PCs as of May 25

[Sevendaymelee]

Another loss for digital people and another win for us physical bunch who don't have to rely on a company to play and use media.

 

[duervo]

I still have one of these. I'm looking to repurpose it. I've tried installing OSX Tiger on it but it was way too damn slow to function even as a single purpose Mac i.e. an iTunes server. Anybody have any ideas?

Gut the thing and use the case for something like a recent gen raspberry pi. That’s what I’d probably do.

 

[MrUNIMOG]

Curiously enough, it seems access to the iTunes Store on 1st gen Apple TV is already broken and has been since last year.

I've got 2 Apple TV (1st gen) and both aren't able to login to the iTunes Store with my Apple ID (no 2FA enabled).

 

[RedKite]

Technically xp is still supported just not for the public.

Interestingly I once worked at a company that still paid for XP support. They wanted to publicly release the update patches.... with permission of course and use it as some kind of advertising feature for the company. But MS forbade it. There is no way the patches can be made public.

 

[mabhatter]

So, what do with my gen 1 Apple TV now? Any cool ideas?

Not really... people stopped caring about hacking the hardware for other things years ago. The original Apple TV OS is based on (but not quite) Tiger or Leopard.. so even the hacking tools dropped support.

 

[Apple_Robert]

Time for the Windows people to upgrade their lives to an Apple computer.

 

[MRrainer]

Maybe this means we will see some new iTunes Store features/improvements over the next couple months?

My bet would be on the disabling of TLS 1.0 and TLS 1.1

Github also disabled these recently:
https://githubengineering.com/crypto-removal-notice/

O365 will follow shortly, IIRC.
Various payment processing companies have had these disabled for some time.

 

[Texas26257]

If so, than not updating the original Apple TV (few text files) by Apple is just pathetic and arrogant. :-(

You really don’t understand how these things work do you. You seem hell bent just to hate on Apple

 

[M2M]

My bet would be on the disabling of TLS 1.0 and TLS 1.1

Github also disabled these recently:
https://githubengineering.com/crypto-removal-notice/

O365 will follow shortly, IIRC.
Various payment processing companies have had these disabled for some time.

Adding the necessary certificates to the original tiger based Apple TV should be straightforward for someone who likes tinkering.

 

[MRrainer]

Adding the necessary certificates to the original tiger based Apple TV should be straightforward for someone who likes tinkering.

It's not about the certificates. It's about the capabilities of the SSL library.

Apple has its own implantation of TLS. I'm not familiar with tvOS or what version(s) it supports - but given that it's 10 years old, chances are that it wasn't too modern.

 

[2010mini]

http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1898610_1898625_1898627,00.html

As the original Longhorn releases it was great but there were so many issues with security that by the time of public release it was more of a bloated mess, a skinned version of XP I believe. Win 7 however, was everything Vista should have been. My home servers still run it and have been rock solid.

I remember the IT department of my job taking one look at Vista and said.. nope.

 

[hagar]

You would be surprised at how many people still use the original Apple TV, so it definitely did have its audience

Ok, if you know then why not disclose the number?
As even the later generations of ATV are not big sellers I can’t imagine there be a lot that still use the original one. Mine is collecting dust.

 

[kruegdude]

Good thing no one builds Apple TVs into an actual TV. Hate to think you can't use your TV because it is deemed "obsolete."

Wow, that was a stretch.

 

[citysnaps]

Yeah, I'm steamed I can't update my NuBus-based Quadra 840. TC needs to go.

 

[ipponrg]

Ok, if you know then why not disclose the number?
As even the later generations of ATV are not big sellers I can’t imagine there be a lot that still use the original one. Mine is collecting dust.

If you were working at a financial company and you had financial numbers, would you disclose those too?

Remember that the earlier ATVs were at a much lower price point than the recent ones. There are still many people holding onto their older Blu-ray players that have app stores. Not an enormous amount, but enough of a chunk where a company wouldn't want to risk losing its audience.

 

[Edsel]

Vista? Even Microsoft hopes everyone forgets that debacle.

Windows ME and the MS OFFICE trippy "Clippy" was the absolute bottom for MSFT. Came very close firing off the entire clip into Mr. Clippy. Two sufficed...it was an old laptop.

 

[topmounter]

They really could have put a lot more effort behind it than they did in the beginning. Surely Steve saw video would go the same way as audio.

Video is far more perishable than music.

 

[tmphoto]

I still have one of those (and three newer model Apple TV's). It's been bumped down to the secondary guest room, but it still works. I suppose anyone who tries to use it can enjoy the very dated but vast music collection that it still holds.

 

[for this]

OK people, so it looks like Apple is a fool for supporting products too long instead of being appreciated.

 

[chrono1081]

Vista? Even Microsoft hopes everyone forgets that debacle.

I LOVE Vista! It's horrid shadow copy bug (pre-service pack 1) is why I own Macs today

 

[GreatDrok]

So, what do with my gen 1 Apple TV now? Any cool ideas?

I've been using mine as a way to play my iTunes library on my hifi since it has proper audio outputs. The HDMI socket became a bit fruity years back but I still have an iPad 1 which has the rather good old iTunes interface on it and that works well to play through the ATV 1. Another option is Plex or XBMC (or whatever it is called now) as there was quite a lot of work hacking the ATV 1 into something that could play plenty of videos. Truth be told though, it was always a bit slow and limited by the hardware which ran hot as hell too so compared with some modern box like the current ATV or those from other companies it probably isn't worth keeping going unless you have a specific use for it like my hifi setup.

 

[n-evo]

I enjoyed and had no issues with Vista in the years that I used it.

That doesn’t change the fact its development was a disaster. Windows Longhorn - what later would become Vista - was supposed to be released in 2003 or 2004 at the latest. Major problems resulted in project and code resets and a release date in late 2006. 2007 for mainstream users. In the meantime Windows XP’s lifespan had to be extended far beyond what Microsoft intended for the OS.

Then you also had the whole “Windows Vista capable” debacle where users thought they were buying a Windows XP PC fully capable of running all Windows Vista features. When in fact it could only run the Basic interface instead of hardware accelerated Aero.

Many things went wrong.

 

[dogslobber]

Original Apple TV? That's one heck of a long hobby!

 

[TheNightPhoenix]

If you were working at a financial company and you had financial numbers, would you disclose those too?

Remember that the earlier ATVs were at a much lower price point than the recent ones. There are still many people holding onto their older Blu-ray players that have app stores. Not an enormous amount, but enough of a chunk where a company wouldn't want to risk losing its audience.

Much lower price point?
They were $299, No other Apple TV has been that expensive.
Second and third get dropped the price to $99.

 

[840quadra]

That’s sad that they can’t issue a patch for their own devices to help them meet modern security concerns.

Still rock my old ATV for hotels and RV use because it can hold its own media and has been really reliable.