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Ivy Bridge Mobile CPUs for Next MacBook Air and Pro Models Due around May

"The 35W-45W (MacBook Pro) processors range from Dual Core 2.6GHz to 2.9GHz with single core turbo speeds of up to 3.6GHz, while the 17W (MacBook Air) processors range from Dual Core 1.8GHz to 2.0GHz with single core turbo speeds of up to 2.8-3.2GHz."

Will Ivy Bridge MacBook Pro CPUs not be quad-core? If not, would the just updated MBPs be faster?
 
Ptdr said:
Does it mean that the macbook air could get 8gb of ram?
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I think there is a very real possibility of 8GB as a BTO option by next June. The price of both 2Gbit and 4Gbit DDR3 chips has been falling dramatically. The 2GB entry-level option will certainly go away with the next revision.

Hellhammer said:
OEM SKUs doesn't seem to be included in the roadmaps, hence the lineup seems smaller.
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Good point.

Woodcrest64 said:
I'm excited to see USB 3.0 in the MacBook Pro.
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I don't expect Apple to adopt USB 3.0. Increasing the network value of USB 3.0 runs counter to Apple's strategic interest in pushing Thunderbolt.

KPOM said:
It's interesting that there are no more 25W TDP models.
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Intel would be happy to build 25W Ivy Bridge CPUs for Apple if Apple want them.
 
*LTD* said:
Don't be deliberately obtuse.

He obviously means he's alright with whatever newer hardware it will come with. Meaning hardware refreshes will continue regardless, the next-gen usually being better than the previous gen in the majority of cases.
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Look Im only 13 I really in all honesty could not tell the tone at which this was posted sorry:eek:
 
reallynotnick said:
13in MBP 1440x900, quad core, thin bezel, .85-.8in thick, 4lbs, no optical drive, and for bonus points put a discrete GPU in it and make a matte option for the display.

It's going to be about time for me to upgrade my 13in MBP as it will be 3 years old and I have been maxing it out since day one, but I just love the size.
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I can definitely see the 13" MB Pro getting a 35-watt quad-core processor. As for a discrete GPU, I am highly doubtful. And that's assuming Apple decides not to axe the 13" MB Pro. There's rumors saying the MB Pro may end up being only 15" and 17".
 
Not meaning to switch the topic to other processor types, but I don't understand if those mobile processors are related to the ones behing used in the next generation of iMacs for instance?

I mean, should we expect a refresh of any intel mac (except the Mac Pro, sadly) in May? It seems so far away :(
 
New Macs ?? Ivy Bridge Mobile CPU's

Oh goody....

Bit to eary for me though, as if they came out beginning of 2012, i'd wait..... but then again, knowing me, i won't have my *new* xmas macbook pro long anyway and i'll replace. I mean, this is what most Apple guys do right ?? I just can't help it either...

Am I also correct that it will have USB 3.0 ?

"Intel has committed to Thunderbolt support alongside USB 3.0 in the platform. "

If so, seems Apple is flip-flopping on something.... Steve definiatly stated that they would never have USB 3.0 as Thunderbolt is "next-generation".

We shall see.....
 
KPOM said:
A 2GHz i7 would be a decent incremental speed bump over the 1.8GHz Sandy Bridge, with a noticeable improvement from the HD 4000 graphics. Hopefully the power usage decline is noticeable. It's interesting that there are no more 25W TDP models. They go right from ULV 17W to standard voltage 35W. I thought perhaps they would have dropped 35W models instead.
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Ivy Bridge appears to offer around 10-15% higher clock for clock performance due to tweaks in the architecture, so it's not just the clock speed.

There are no more 25W LV CPUs because there isn't a single product using them (SNB LV, I mean). And I'm not pulling this from my arse, check e.g. NotebookCheck, no reviews or benches.

mdriftmeyer said:
And people talk down about Bulldozer not meeting dates and expectations?

Bulldozer will be nearing it's 3rd revision when Ivy comes out.
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Intel never said that Ivy Bridge would be released at CES 2012. AMD made the mistake of saying that Bulldozer will be out at a certain date, which they then missed, several times.

smulji said:
I can definitely see the 13" MB Pro getting a 35-watt quad-core processor. As for a discrete GPU, I am highly doubtful. And that's assuming Apple decides not to axe the 13" MB Pro. There's rumors saying the MB Pro may end up being only 15" and 17".
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The problem is, the leaked roadmaps have no mention of 35W quad core. It's possible that we will see one as OEM-only model, though, hence it would be missing from the roadmaps. I'm trying to get my hand on the actual roadmaps to see if VR-Zone missed anything.
 
Tech198 said:
Am I also correct that it will have USB 3.0 ?

"Intel has committed to Thunderbolt support alongside USB 3.0 in the platform. "

If so, seems Apple is flip-flopping on something.... Steve definiatly stated that they would never have USB 3.0 as Thunderbolt is "next-generation".
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Just because Intel provide support for USB 3.0 does not mean that Apple will provide it. I would not expect Apple to support USB 3.0 even if Steve had never said anything about it. It's simply against Apple's interest in promoting Thunderbolt. The larger the number of computers that support USB 3.0, the less 3rd party manufacturers will be motivated to support Thunderbolt. Apple have a strategic interest in keeping the number of computers supporting USB 3.0 as low as possible.
 
Pity. I am looking forward to see what the next MacPro becomes. With Thunderbolt and a rumored new casing compressing space and weight, it's going to be a fantastic machine.
 
17 W in my 2011 13" Air still sends the fans blazing from time to time.

I kind of miss the 10W processor in my 2010 11" Air. It never made noise.

I want more cooling with less fans, somehow. Maybe having 2 chips for CPU and GPU were easier to cool off than an all-in-one concept.
 
mcarling said:
Just because Intel provide support for USB 3.0 does not mean that Apple will provide it. I would not expect Apple to support USB 3.0 even if Steve had never said anything about it. It's simply against Apple's interest in promoting Thunderbolt. The larger the number of computers that support USB 3.0, the less 3rd party manufacturers will be motivated to support Thunderbolt. Apple have a strategic interest in keeping the number of computers supporting USB 3.0 as low as possible.
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Thunderbolt and USB 3.0 will coexist. Why would Intel provide USB 3.0 support in IVB in the first place if they believed in TB? TB is their technology after all.

Unless TB technology is changed by a big hand, it will never be mainstream. Seriously, 50 bucks for a cable? And it's not only because it's new, it's the way it was designed. Both ends of the cable have a chip in them. Both devices need a separate TB chip in them. TB needs to be integrated into all SoCs like USB until it has some really use at a reasonable price.

If Apple had interest in promoting TB, then there would be some actual TB devices, not just a display and a couple ridiculously priced external HDs.
 
Hellhammer said:
Thunderbolt and USB 3.0 will coexist. Why would Intel provide USB 3.0 support in IVB in the first place if they believed in TB? TB is their technology after all.

Unless TB technology is changed by a big hand, it will never be mainstream. Seriously, 50 bucks for a cable? And it's not only because it's new, it's the way it was designed. Both ends of the cable have a chip in them. Both devices need a separate TB chip in them. TB needs to be integrated into all SoCs like USB until it has some really use at a reasonable price.

If Apple had interest in promoting TB, then there would be some actual TB devices, not just a display and a couple ridiculously priced external HDs.
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I also think that Apple will not offer USB3, the way I read it is that Intel will support both USB3 and TB, that does not mean apple will be offering
 
retina OEM panels?

are any OEM's actually sampling 'retina' quality displays (or near retina quality, there was some discussion on the DPI mark in the 200's as qualifying for retina) at the 13 and 15 inch panel segment?
 
hcho3 said:
Macbook pro IS DUE FOR REDESIGN. It has been same since 2008. By 2012, it needs redesign.

Put thinner bezel and SSD inside.

Quad core on 13 inch? Give me.
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What about the Mac Pro? It hasn't gotten a new case redesign since it was introduced in 2006. Heck, besides for an additional optical drive, it's the same enclosure as the Power Mac G5, introduced in 2003.

IMO, I don't mind the current MBP enclosure as long as we get new internals. The only problem I have is all the ports are on the left side. Maybe add some USB ports to the right or back of the case. I wouldn't mind a thinner bezel, either. But I'd still be content with current config. Just bring some Ivy League goodness!
 
hcho3 said:
Macbook pro IS DUE FOR REDESIGN. It has been same since 2008. By 2012, it needs redesign.

Put thinner bezel and SSD inside.

Quad core on 13 inch? Give me.
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Despite the MBP looking the same since 2008, it still looks way, way better than any other laptop out there right now.

Hopefully they don't do a redesign for redesigning's sake.
 
Consumer and perhaps pro trends are shifting, and it's stellar to see Apple going in that direction (even better that MacRumors reports this stuff for those who want to plan accordingly).

I don't think Apple laptop upgrades have transpired since the release of FCPX. For mobile video shooting and editing, a 13" quad with hefty GPU sans optical seems ideal.
 
Ivy Bridge

mcarling said:
Ivy Bridge MBPs will definitely be quad-core and will definitely be faster than current models.
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That's what I assumed, so this is a typo in the article. If you click the link and read that article and look at the roadmap they're talking about quad core which would only make sense.

Will Apple ever offer Extreme Edition Intel CPUs in a MBP (or any other mac) or is the power draw too high and performance benefit too marginal to justify the increased cost?
 
Apple not adopting USB 3.0...I don't think so. Apple was rumored to even release a USB 3.0-capable Mac before Intel chose to support it as part of its Ivy Bridge chipset.

I personally like my overpriced Thunderbolt hard drive, but now that I switched back to a 17" MBP, I do like having the ExpressCard 34 slot back and being able to run my other external drive via eSATA. I just can't STAND FireWire and people referring to it as a "high-speed" way of moving files. lol...yea, right. Not much better than USB 2.0 as far as I'm concerned.

Of course, those of us with ExpressCard/34 slots can run USB 3.0 now vs. 6 months from now and admittedly, there is NO difference in price - I mean NONE - when it comes to external hard drives with USB 3.0 connectivity and the cables don't cost $50 either.

It's all a matter of what your needs (and wants) are. Having USB 3.0 natively will mean not needing an ExpressCard slot or one of the upcoming Thunderbolt -> to -> ExpressCard adapters, which will also support most eSATA (including SATA III 6.0Gbps, by the way) and USB 3.0 (5Gbps) cards. (for those who want 5+Gbps speed now)

I suppose Thunderbolt may become - and arguably already is - the "rich people's USB 3.0". (so to speak...) The chaining together of DisplayPort and PCI Express devices in Thunderbolt is quite stunning, though, and it works surprisingly flawlessly, including throwing one of the backwards-compatible MiniDisplayPort monitors at the end of the chain.

At the end of the day, however, I suppose even HD video editors could plug in an external USB 3.0 SSD into their next-gen MacBook Pro's and/or Air's and right along with it, attach a DisplayPort-based high-end monitor to the Thunderbolt port without even needing more than a $5 MiniDP cable. Wouldn't they mostly be able to do some of the same things that Thunderbolt can do for them now...? Hmmm.... :cool:
 
Tech198 said:
"Intel has committed to Thunderbolt support alongside USB 3.0 in the platform. "

If so, seems Apple is flip-flopping on something.... Steve definiatly stated that they would never have USB 3.0 as Thunderbolt is "next-generation".
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If I remember correctly he said they wouldn't consider it until it was supported by the chipset.

There is no reason TB and USB3 can't coexist. They are similar but not the same.
 
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