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I cannot access anymore the thumbs. What happened?
If Apple has stopped the page, the videos could be real...?!
If Apple has stopped the page, the videos could be real...?!
ShaolinMiddleFinger
macrumors 6502a
it is a fake. just look at the pen recognition, when it converts it to text, the lines above and below it move but the text doesn't. such a let down
eyelikeart
Moderator emeritus
so now the page has become "member's only"....
did anyone else notice the German text that comes up with it says "forbidden?"
did anyone else notice the German text that comes up with it says "forbidden?"
macblue
macrumors newbie
Its real
It's real, and anyone saying otherwise works for apple. The only thing that would make it way beyond the rumor sites would be a $199 price tag. Also, notice "iTunes" under the multimedia section in one of the stills. I'm guesssing a 10gb hard drive. Absolutely beautiful. I just can't believe it didn't leak sooner.
It's real, and anyone saying otherwise works for apple. The only thing that would make it way beyond the rumor sites would be a $199 price tag. Also, notice "iTunes" under the multimedia section in one of the stills. I'm guesssing a 10gb hard drive. Absolutely beautiful. I just can't believe it didn't leak sooner.
Gelfin
macrumors 68020
iWalk is a stupid, stupid, stupid name. It's a bad internet fanfic version of a real Apple product name.
Besides which, the name iWalk has already been applied to those obviously rendered shots of an extremely poor palmtop design, supposedly in a bathroom, before MWNY. We already know Apple's legal team watches the rumor sites like they've got nothing better to do, so they would NEVER have allowed the company to actually give that name to a product (even if it wasn't STUPID). The reason for this is that the guy who faked the pictures of the "bathroom" device could come back and say Apple had ripped off the name from him and that they owed him money, and he'd have the pictures from months and months ago to back him up.
This new supposed device is better designed (although that big knob on the front would be a horrible decision), but only because they took the form factor of an original Newton and gave it an iPod-like design. The mockup device itself is very well done, a sign of somebody with way too much time on his hands, but the image displayed on the device is too obviously simulated.
And did I mention that "iWalk" is a stupid name? I mean, that makes "Attack of the Clones" look like an absolutely brilliant title by comparison.
Feel free to print out a copy of this post. If this device shows up at MWSF, I will happily eat the printout on request, right before spending a buttload of money to buy one.
Besides which, the name iWalk has already been applied to those obviously rendered shots of an extremely poor palmtop design, supposedly in a bathroom, before MWNY. We already know Apple's legal team watches the rumor sites like they've got nothing better to do, so they would NEVER have allowed the company to actually give that name to a product (even if it wasn't STUPID). The reason for this is that the guy who faked the pictures of the "bathroom" device could come back and say Apple had ripped off the name from him and that they owed him money, and he'd have the pictures from months and months ago to back him up.
This new supposed device is better designed (although that big knob on the front would be a horrible decision), but only because they took the form factor of an original Newton and gave it an iPod-like design. The mockup device itself is very well done, a sign of somebody with way too much time on his hands, but the image displayed on the device is too obviously simulated.
And did I mention that "iWalk" is a stupid name? I mean, that makes "Attack of the Clones" look like an absolutely brilliant title by comparison.
Feel free to print out a copy of this post. If this device shows up at MWSF, I will happily eat the printout on request, right before spending a buttload of money to buy one.
It's a fake
I feel pretty confident that this is a fake. Mainly because the only time the "iWalk" is being moved around is when it is off. When the system is finally turned on (right after a cut scene I might add) it is SOLIDLY placed on the desk and the hands that are using it seem to be acting VERY careful not to bump or move the unit while it is "on". This would make for a much easier mock up of a fake OS using some fairly basic video technics, maybe even as simple as a blue screen were the "real screen" is supposed to be. Also, during the sayhello.mov the hand is positioned so that you can't see the actual tip of the pen touching the screen, again this would make it much easier to mock up since keeping the pen tip and the drawing on the screen in sync with eachother would be a bit more difficult then just completly hiding it from the viewer. Now if that unit was getting picked up and moved around while on and the sayhello.mov showed the actual tip of the pen writing on the screen it would make for a much more convincing video. That's not to say it wouldn't be possible to mock up a video with it doing those things but it would take a considerable amount of time and know how of some higher end video editing software to do (something most hoaxers don't bother with). I would estimate a hoax like this one wouldn't take no more then a half hour to do with some basic video equipment and skills. Also it was pointed out to me that on the bootup.mov at 7 secs 8 frames in there is a jump cut edit - you can tell because the jog-wheel in a single frame is in an entirely new position while rotating and the person's finger jumps from below the dial to above the dial (or jog wheel).
I feel pretty confident that this is a fake. Mainly because the only time the "iWalk" is being moved around is when it is off. When the system is finally turned on (right after a cut scene I might add) it is SOLIDLY placed on the desk and the hands that are using it seem to be acting VERY careful not to bump or move the unit while it is "on". This would make for a much easier mock up of a fake OS using some fairly basic video technics, maybe even as simple as a blue screen were the "real screen" is supposed to be. Also, during the sayhello.mov the hand is positioned so that you can't see the actual tip of the pen touching the screen, again this would make it much easier to mock up since keeping the pen tip and the drawing on the screen in sync with eachother would be a bit more difficult then just completly hiding it from the viewer. Now if that unit was getting picked up and moved around while on and the sayhello.mov showed the actual tip of the pen writing on the screen it would make for a much more convincing video. That's not to say it wouldn't be possible to mock up a video with it doing those things but it would take a considerable amount of time and know how of some higher end video editing software to do (something most hoaxers don't bother with). I would estimate a hoax like this one wouldn't take no more then a half hour to do with some basic video equipment and skills. Also it was pointed out to me that on the bootup.mov at 7 secs 8 frames in there is a jump cut edit - you can tell because the jog-wheel in a single frame is in an entirely new position while rotating and the person's finger jumps from below the dial to above the dial (or jog wheel).
It's Real!
I think it's real! (iWalk)
1. I dont see any thing wrong with the videos or pictures whatsoever (Any thing that moves is bumped by his hand). The text does not move at all, everything is to scale.
2. When you go to http://www.iwalk.com there is a weird cover up site there. But if you do a WHOIS it will show someone else (not Apple). But thats exactly what they did with the ipod, the day they released the ipod the WHOIS results changed and http://www.ipod.com now takes you to http://www.apple.com .
3. When the pictures and video were posted, the site was soon shut down. They still remain on the http://www.macspy.com because they have a disclaimer and login that protects them. mod edit: the link that was here is no longer available
my 2ghz lcd imac should be coming too = )
I think it's real! (iWalk)
1. I dont see any thing wrong with the videos or pictures whatsoever (Any thing that moves is bumped by his hand). The text does not move at all, everything is to scale.
2. When you go to http://www.iwalk.com there is a weird cover up site there. But if you do a WHOIS it will show someone else (not Apple). But thats exactly what they did with the ipod, the day they released the ipod the WHOIS results changed and http://www.ipod.com now takes you to http://www.apple.com .
3. When the pictures and video were posted, the site was soon shut down. They still remain on the http://www.macspy.com because they have a disclaimer and login that protects them. mod edit: the link that was here is no longer available
my 2ghz lcd imac should be coming too = )
you would have to be an idiot work that hard on a fake.
that looks very refined.. if this is a fake, it must be some design students industrial design semester project - lol.(or stolen from apple r&d at gun point) This took sometime to do... and if it was a fake they don't seem to making any money of this because there are no ads on spymac.com.
May I please have my iWalk now.
that looks very refined.. if this is a fake, it must be some design students industrial design semester project - lol.(or stolen from apple r&d at gun point) This took sometime to do... and if it was a fake they don't seem to making any money of this because there are no ads on spymac.com.
May I please have my iWalk now.
it's a fake alright
One of my collegues who works in a post production house noticed a couple other things as well. here are his comments which after rewatching the footage I agree completly with
Here's another observation - on the sayhello.mov if you look at the top of the quicktime movie you'll see a whiteish line, very typical of untouched up video, at the point that the hand writing turns into text the whiteline disappears and doesn't reappear until the hand stops writing on the screen. Another indication of a touch-up job.
The white line is a cut at the beginning of the movie and is a dissolve at the end of the movie.... video glitches NEVER dissolve themselves onto the screen. It's fake. Also in the upper left of the quicktime movie you can see a black underscore mark blinking on and off throughout the movie - in fact it changes position over the course of the movie. The underscore perfectly matches the cursor on the iWalk screen. Whoever SFX this did a poor job of masking the cursor layer and left a little bit of it floating outside of the unit on the upper portion of the screen - everytime the cursor moves the phantom underscore moves.
One of my collegues who works in a post production house noticed a couple other things as well. here are his comments which after rewatching the footage I agree completly with
Here's another observation - on the sayhello.mov if you look at the top of the quicktime movie you'll see a whiteish line, very typical of untouched up video, at the point that the hand writing turns into text the whiteline disappears and doesn't reappear until the hand stops writing on the screen. Another indication of a touch-up job.
The white line is a cut at the beginning of the movie and is a dissolve at the end of the movie.... video glitches NEVER dissolve themselves onto the screen. It's fake. Also in the upper left of the quicktime movie you can see a black underscore mark blinking on and off throughout the movie - in fact it changes position over the course of the movie. The underscore perfectly matches the cursor on the iWalk screen. Whoever SFX this did a poor job of masking the cursor layer and left a little bit of it floating outside of the unit on the upper portion of the screen - everytime the cursor moves the phantom underscore moves.
This i a really long thread
have does anyone remembre if we have had a longer thread. Anyways this probably is fake or real but doctered to make it look better but Apple will probably release something like this.
have does anyone remembre if we have had a longer thread. Anyways this probably is fake or real but doctered to make it look better but Apple will probably release something like this.
i say all these newbies who think this jiz is real are from spymac trying to get people to believe. you people suck
nice of you all to comment..
nice of you all to comment..
JOHNGAETANO
macrumors 6502
iWalk
It's too bad, but all the points made about the funny video are true.
Who in the heck has this much time on their hands to pull off a stunt like this??
I'm truly sad, as I really wanted one of these.
It's too bad, but all the points made about the funny video are true.
Who in the heck has this much time on their hands to pull off a stunt like this??
I'm truly sad, as I really wanted one of these.
What's up with the European power sockets?
See the power socket on the desk (upper right hand corner of the still showing iWalk's backside).
Anyone know what country those fittings are for. They look European...?
See the power socket on the desk (upper right hand corner of the still showing iWalk's backside).
Anyone know what country those fittings are for. They look European...?
I don't know if it's fake, but...
Give these guys the credit they deserve. They've sparked our interest - started one of the longest threads I've seen here - and this video is good enough to fool me (not that it's all that hard anyway).
Can anyone else link me to any Apple spy videos that are as good as these? Can anyone even link me to ANY Apple spy videos?
Plus, notice how no one is complaining about iWalk's design? (one of the first things faked products get blasted for) If this isn't real, then this/these fakers should be applauded for their imagination and time spent.
...and for once Spy Mac delivers 😉
Thanks Guys
Give these guys the credit they deserve. They've sparked our interest - started one of the longest threads I've seen here - and this video is good enough to fool me (not that it's all that hard anyway).
Can anyone else link me to any Apple spy videos that are as good as these? Can anyone even link me to ANY Apple spy videos?
Plus, notice how no one is complaining about iWalk's design? (one of the first things faked products get blasted for) If this isn't real, then this/these fakers should be applauded for their imagination and time spent.
...and for once Spy Mac delivers 😉
Thanks Guys
Re: It's Real!
http://www.newton.com goes to http://www.apple.com too!
[Edited by AppleJunkie on 01-03-2002 at 04:43 PM]
http://www.newton.com goes to http://www.apple.com too!
[Edited by AppleJunkie on 01-03-2002 at 04:43 PM]
Gelfin
macrumors 68020
Re: you would have to be an idiot work that hard on a fake.
You would have to be an idiot, or you would have to be a certain German designer with a hobby of designing theoretical Mac products, who is said to have done the "bathroom" pictures, and who now owns and runs a Mac rumors site called... SpyMac.com.
There are no ads there, but ego often drives people as hard as money does. The bathroom pictures were obvious fakes, but the guy is hung up on this name he came up with (which, I might point out, is STUPID), and he thought (quite correctly) that he could make a more convincing video by actually manufacturing a device. It wouldn't be as difficult a task as you might think to make a shell like that for someone with the right skills, especially when it's only got to be good enough for a small quicktime movie.
So the guy gets gobs of new traffic and registrations to his site, which feeds his ego, and also gives him personally more exposure, which could actually lead to lucrative jobs down the road. Even if (when) the "iWalk" is exposed as a fake, it will exist as a demonstration of the guy's design skills.
If you want a conspiracy theory, I'd be much more likely to believe that Apple gives this guy a few little perks to push out very distracting disinformation to keep folks from peeking under the sheet at the REAL surprise before Steve's keynote.
You would have to be an idiot, or you would have to be a certain German designer with a hobby of designing theoretical Mac products, who is said to have done the "bathroom" pictures, and who now owns and runs a Mac rumors site called... SpyMac.com.
There are no ads there, but ego often drives people as hard as money does. The bathroom pictures were obvious fakes, but the guy is hung up on this name he came up with (which, I might point out, is STUPID), and he thought (quite correctly) that he could make a more convincing video by actually manufacturing a device. It wouldn't be as difficult a task as you might think to make a shell like that for someone with the right skills, especially when it's only got to be good enough for a small quicktime movie.
So the guy gets gobs of new traffic and registrations to his site, which feeds his ego, and also gives him personally more exposure, which could actually lead to lucrative jobs down the road. Even if (when) the "iWalk" is exposed as a fake, it will exist as a demonstration of the guy's design skills.
If you want a conspiracy theory, I'd be much more likely to believe that Apple gives this guy a few little perks to push out very distracting disinformation to keep folks from peeking under the sheet at the REAL surprise before Steve's keynote.
iWalk video hoax
I also strongly caution those who would believe this thing is totally for real. The concept is great, the quality of the video is not.
There are way too many glitches and intentioanlly blurry bits. In the clip where the 'knob' is rotated to adjust the screen, there is a mising reflection/shadow of the hand which appears later as the hand pulls away.
If look closely at the type 'recognised' by the device, it is remaining lined up with the device's screen in every frame - it's been added after the fact.
This is an exceptionally well done model/comp of what this device ought to look like.
I also strongly caution those who would believe this thing is totally for real. The concept is great, the quality of the video is not.
There are way too many glitches and intentioanlly blurry bits. In the clip where the 'knob' is rotated to adjust the screen, there is a mising reflection/shadow of the hand which appears later as the hand pulls away.
If look closely at the type 'recognised' by the device, it is remaining lined up with the device's screen in every frame - it's been added after the fact.
This is an exceptionally well done model/comp of what this device ought to look like.
Re: iWalk video hoax
Of course there are going to be glitches and blurry bits. We are not watching DVD's these are web enhanced movies made to skip and be blurry a bit so the size will be small. As for the shadow from the hand. His head or some one else could be standing in a the way of light and then move and there is a shadow. I know I took lights in audio/visual, we had to remove shadows all the time.
Just Speculation Yet though.
Of course there are going to be glitches and blurry bits. We are not watching DVD's these are web enhanced movies made to skip and be blurry a bit so the size will be small. As for the shadow from the hand. His head or some one else could be standing in a the way of light and then move and there is a shadow. I know I took lights in audio/visual, we had to remove shadows all the time.
Just Speculation Yet though.
It's a fake.
Check out http://www.appleturns.com
They have quite an interesting little article explaining why they think it's a fake. I agree - it's fake, albeight an excellent one.
Check out http://www.appleturns.com
They have quite an interesting little article explaining why they think it's a fake. I agree - it's fake, albeight an excellent one.
Who in the heck has this much time on their hands to pull off a stunt like this??
Ummmmm....... Apple?? are we all being led down the Looooooong garden path (10 pages worth of garden path, not to mention the threads on other sites...) Wouldn't it be a perfect distraction from other stuff? and who else would have the time, the access to stuff that looked as genuine as that or the need to actually do it??? It was Apple THEMSELVES that drew attention to the rumor sites... (just my two 0.02)
Ummmmm....... Apple?? are we all being led down the Looooooong garden path (10 pages worth of garden path, not to mention the threads on other sites...) Wouldn't it be a perfect distraction from other stuff? and who else would have the time, the access to stuff that looked as genuine as that or the need to actually do it??? It was Apple THEMSELVES that drew attention to the rumor sites... (just my two 0.02)
So fake
this is dumb, the say hello to iwalk vid , is so badd , the type as ic comes up on the screen , is added after the movie is made, you can see it move , pure crap!
this is dumb, the say hello to iwalk vid , is so badd , the type as ic comes up on the screen , is added after the movie is made, you can see it move , pure crap!
iWalk
It seems to me that the ones who want to believe that this device exist, refuse to see the obvious flaws in the video. Move over Big Foot and Loch Ness Monster, here comes iWalk!
It seems to me that the ones who want to believe that this device exist, refuse to see the obvious flaws in the video. Move over Big Foot and Loch Ness Monster, here comes iWalk!
from http://www.news.com ...
"At the same time that CES is unfolding in Las Vegas, Apple Computer fans will be congregating in San Francisco for the Macworld Expo. Apple CEO Steve Jobs is expected to deliver a similar message to Gates', touting the convergence of electronic devices around the computer. Apple is already helping the cause. Last year, the company delivered a wide range of digital products, including the iPod digital music player and software for recording digital music, making movies, and authoring DVDs.
Despite such efforts from Apple and Microsoft, Baker noted that the consumer adoption of digital devices that attach to PCs is still "taking longer than us IT guys would like." "
"At the same time that CES is unfolding in Las Vegas, Apple Computer fans will be congregating in San Francisco for the Macworld Expo. Apple CEO Steve Jobs is expected to deliver a similar message to Gates', touting the convergence of electronic devices around the computer. Apple is already helping the cause. Last year, the company delivered a wide range of digital products, including the iPod digital music player and software for recording digital music, making movies, and authoring DVDs.
Despite such efforts from Apple and Microsoft, Baker noted that the consumer adoption of digital devices that attach to PCs is still "taking longer than us IT guys would like." "