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iWork '08 Introduced
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this is true. you're able to install multiple seats of ilife/iwork using just the single user license copy. but that's just it. you have purchased a license for a single user on a single machine. as steve jobs would say, "it's your karma, man."
the family pack sells for $99 (both edu and regular store)
not a bad deal for 5 seats of the coolest software!
~kyle
just installed iwork 08 trial. good news for keynote users, we can now resize the viewer thumbnails. No more squinting!!!
What is the URL... I can't find it (re-post).
Of course not! Keynote is in a completely separate league from PowerPoint. Exporting Keynote presentations to PowerPoint works, but it makes them primitive.
www.apple.com/iwork/trial/
there's the link. It seems that Apple isn't making that page easy to find.
there's the link. It seems that Apple isn't making that page easy to find.
I found it way ealier today while browsing the site but couldn't find it now to download it when I got home. Thanks to MC I got the link!
Anyways, I'm download it now but the download rate is VERY slow, about 34.3 kb for me, but everything else is working fast.
Their servers must be loaded!
I also noticed this, the price is higher than before.
Still gonna buy it though.
Cheaper here:$99 compared to $119 for '06. I'll buy it after iLife.
Numbers can import .xlsx (Excel 2007 format), Pages can work with .docx, Microsoft Office PowerPoint 2007 (Office Open XML) too.
Although, Smart Art should have inspired Apple to create something similar for organizational charts.
My first impression of Numbers after fooling around with it for about an hour is that it will sadly be a complement to Excel for me, and not a replacement.
I find it very difficult to edit parts of graphs like series, labels, etc. Also There are not enough data point options. For example there is no option to have no data point and just display lines ( I may not have found it yet, so don't flame me). See attached pdf of a graph i made in Excel for what i'm talking about. I tried for about a half hour to try and reproduce something similar to that graph in Numbers, and I just couldn't find the options. Maybe they are there, but I sure can't find em.
I think Numbers is going to be really nice though for great looking lists, plans, and simple sexy looking graphs. I've already started to make my own Wedding plan spreadsheet from the awesome template Apple provided. I plan to continue to use Numbers and really learn how to use it.
Numbers is definitely a great first spreadsheet, and I think a lot of people will find it as a perfect replacement, but for the long time excel users like me it will be very difficult to duplicate the options we are used to.
I find it very difficult to edit parts of graphs like series, labels, etc. Also There are not enough data point options. For example there is no option to have no data point and just display lines ( I may not have found it yet, so don't flame me). See attached pdf of a graph i made in Excel for what i'm talking about. I tried for about a half hour to try and reproduce something similar to that graph in Numbers, and I just couldn't find the options. Maybe they are there, but I sure can't find em.
I think Numbers is going to be really nice though for great looking lists, plans, and simple sexy looking graphs. I've already started to make my own Wedding plan spreadsheet from the awesome template Apple provided. I plan to continue to use Numbers and really learn how to use it.
Numbers is definitely a great first spreadsheet, and I think a lot of people will find it as a perfect replacement, but for the long time excel users like me it will be very difficult to duplicate the options we are used to.
Numbers looks sweet. I might miss Excel's Auto Filter though. From watching the tutorials, looks like the Filter tool is kind of basic. I'm downloading the Trial right now. Looking forward to digging in to Pages as well
I just imported a pptx file no problem. It popped up a list of incompatibilities which were just missing fonts (specifically Segoe) and some issues rendering smart art. It even carried over my Comments on various slides (the little stickie notes you can place).
Overall, a very impressive import. And a damning indictment on the MBU!
I'm sorry, but this is complete and utter baloney. I've been using iWork for all of my business work since it came out, over a year and a half now. I find Pages more than adequate for producing complicated documents. I have never, even once, wished I was using Office instead.
FWIW, probably 99% of the Excel spreadsheets I receive are simple tables, which don't include even a single calculation. Apparently, the majority of people who think Office is "for them" really ought to be using something less complicated.
The jury is out on Numbers, but I suspect it will do what it needs to for me. I've never been much of a Pages fan, but I was pleased to see that the new version features a "word processing" mode. When you need to type a simple letter, sometimes too much "interface" gets in the way.
I think this is a nice evolution of iWork.
I think this is a nice evolution of iWork.
I am thoroughly impressed with what they achieved with version 1. Lots of fresh, innovative ideas in here that challenge the concept of what a spreadsheet is and how useful they can be for not only the student and home user, but for the average business user too. I would venture to say that 80% of all real usage of Excel can be done in Numbers despite it only having 20% of the features.
WYSIWYG Font Menu
I know that some hate WYSIWYG font menus because they create a performance lag, but they can be useful. Have they added a WYSIWYG font menu option or do I have to open up the traditional, space-hogging font window and toy with that?
I know that some hate WYSIWYG font menus because they create a performance lag, but they can be useful. Have they added a WYSIWYG font menu option or do I have to open up the traditional, space-hogging font window and toy with that?
Documents are mostly about looks, and I'll be among the first to say that the iWork suite manages style in spades. Keynote, especially, is wonderful. It's just that I, and a very large number of other people, might need something more capable.
From what people have been saying, it sounds like Numbers does what it tries to do pretty well, but you lost me at "no error bars."
Numbers is junk for my needs
I think the scientists or academics out there are going to be disappointed with numbers. It looks slick and has a similar set of functions to excel, but the graphing is way too basic. No error bars, no regression, no curve fitting, etc. Its a shame that Apple has has gone to far in simplify things for the everyday user. God forbid there is an extra menu or interface for more complex tasks. I really wanted to dump excel so badly and the rest of the features are spot on.
I think the scientists or academics out there are going to be disappointed with numbers. It looks slick and has a similar set of functions to excel, but the graphing is way too basic. No error bars, no regression, no curve fitting, etc. Its a shame that Apple has has gone to far in simplify things for the everyday user. God forbid there is an extra menu or interface for more complex tasks. I really wanted to dump excel so badly and the rest of the features are spot on.
You have to look at it as a version 1 product. Its simply impossible for them to recreate the functionality of an entrenched rival thats been on the market for a couple of decades.
So you spread the net as wide as you can in the time allocated. They probably got 80% of the real world usage spreadsheet market with version 1. The next 15% may take several releases to hit as the returns start to diminish. The final 5% perhaps too niche.