It's quicker and easier to switch between a chathead and your current app than between your app and the FB/Messenger app.
Seems like a simple concept to grasp.
Tapping the Facebook Messenger pop-up is pretty instantaneous, and that's on a 4S.
It's quicker and easier to switch between a chathead and your current app than between your app and the FB/Messenger app.
Seems like a simple concept to grasp.
Tapping the Facebook Messenger pop-up is pretty instantaneous, and that's on a 4S.
I don't want to get into a pointless Android vs. iOS argument
The features you and others in this thread 'wish' for are already available on Android. The ability to enjoy services like Chat Heads with SMS messages, the ability to sync with Google, Apple or other services, the ability to completely customise the UI of the device around your needs, better multi-tasking for apps that support it, etc..
Android offers more choice, and because of that, 'nice-to-have' features are readily available. It provides users the option to take their device to the next level, personal to them - since 'better' is always subjective.
In my opinion, and from a purely functional perspective, Android as a mobile OS holds the crown right now.
I'm not arguing that Android is the right choice for everyone. I'm not that guy.
What I find hard to understand is when people on MR post 'wishes' for iOS that already exist on Android - brand loyalty is having a negative affect on their personal satisfaction from, let's face it, not-so-minor investments. Their vision of Android is frozen in the year 2010 (Gingerbread).
You sort of brought it on yourself by claiming Android is better than IOS in an Apple forum and without providing a hint of evidence...
You've got me mixed up with someone else cause I really don't want any of the Android "features" on my iPhone.
I'd really like to know what you mean by "more choice", "nice to have features" and "next level". This is a very honest question.
In my opinion Android is by far the least technologicaly advanced and functional mobile OS on the market right now...
Milions of happy iPhone owners would probably agree with that statement.
So you come to an Apple forum and wonder why people here prefer Apple products and state their requests for future OS upgrades instead of just switching to Android? ...Seriously?
PS: 2.3 Gingerbread was indeed awefull. It still is! And guess what? It's still the most popular Android distro in terms of market share...![]()
So, how do you get rid of them from inside the Facebook app? A friend pinged me with a quick note, and now his profile photo is sitting there all the time.
The evidence is there, you overlook it each time. This very topic is an example of extended functionality within Android, not possible within iOS. Like it or not, it's more functionality, more opportunity.
You could almost definitely classify me as a fan of Apple products; I just happen to have an open mind and limited brand loyalty.
Perhaps I interpreted your wish for better app integration functionality, I apologise. I interpreted it as a generalised wish, rather than something specific to two very specific features of iOS.
As I said, it's subjective. I don't want all the customisable stuff on my iPad, which is why I have an iPad. But to answer your questions with equally honest and non-bias answers;
"more choice" - already answered previously: "...the ability to enjoy services like Chat Heads with SMS messages, the ability to sync with Google, Apple or other services, the ability to completely customise the UI of the device around your needs, better multi-tasking for apps that support it..."
"nice to have features" - again, this thread is a single example. Chat Heads are desirable to have as a consistent multi-tasking service - proven by the fact that some developer has made this so for the Jailbreak community. You only need to read through a few posts here to see comments along the lines of "I wish iMessage did this", or "urgh, Facebook messages? I use SMS". Android, without any kind of modification, allows for both of these features. It's just one relevant example right now, but a number of other examples could be plucked from the choices you have that I mentioned previously.
"next level" - I was referring to the customisable nature of Android. "Bettering" something is completely subjective when it comes down to OS, as proven by the OS X vs. Windows debates. However, Android allows for complete UI overhauls without any system modifications - just apps from the store. Users of Android can almost completely tailor their experience and handset towards their particular every day life.
My iPad and iPhone 4 (and my girlfriends 5), however, offer almost no personal customisation options. You can't take your device further. Once you buy it, you're stuck with an OS that's been tailored towards Joe Bloggs - and as the saying goes, Joe Bloggs doesn't exist.
I might add, it's not just UI changes. Due to the option for you to choose default applications to handle certain functions. A better texting app, for example, perhaps one similar to that desired by many jailbreakers - biteSMS - can be downloaded and selected as the default messaging app. With a few taps, you've added functionality to your device. Not possible on iOS.
Name 5 things iOS 6 can do that Android 4.2 can't. My turn to question you! I'll let you have iMessage and FaceTime, but they're very debatable since they rely on your friendship group owning Apple products.
Indeed. I recently recommended the iPhone 5 to my girlfriend, father and mother. I recommend iOS to nearly every non-geek. However, we're on an Internet forum here, and like it or not, we're geeks.
You can't seriously state a feature request on MR. I don't think Apple are keeping track.
People are rather complaining that it doesn't work as they'd like it to. In some cases, Android would be a viable solution, yes.
I just opened my eyes to the fact that other competitors are, well, competing...very, very well. I'm sharing my opinion on that, and suggesting alternative options to people - that's what forums are for, right?
Indeed it was and is!
You seem to think that I and others here have never used Android... hmm...
I consider Android to be unintuitive, badly written and, unless they attempt a complete rewrite of core APIs soon, a technological dead end.
UI customisation is a thing of the past. We have outgrown this trend since the early 2000s on Desktops computers.
This is paramount when you consider that MOST Android users own cheap sub Ghz single core phones. The 4yo iPhone 3GS doesn't seem to suffer from these limitations...
That's complete BS. You can SKIN your UI on Android using 3rd party apps which will slow down your phone considerably. You'll need Super User privileges a custom KERNEL (like those I make for nAa) and a custom ROM like CMx for a complete UI overhaul.
You forgot to mention the HUGE WARNING BANNER by Google, warning users not to use 3rd party apps for these kind of functions due to the high risk of personal information theft. This is particularly common with custom keyboards...![]()
These apps offer great integration and seamless interoperability between my iPhone and my wife's mac:
Mailbox, Fantastical, Tweetbot, iMovie, iPhoto, Garageband, Camera+, Pages, Numbers, Keynote, Podcasts, Find my iPhone, Remote, etc...
You think running Android makes you a geek?![]()
So do you recommend iOS to people on Android forums when you feel they'd be better off using that?
Never said that!
Do you have any technical reasoning, or is your opinion just from a consumer perspective (which is fine)?
Apple have removed it, I agree. As I said, I like the simpleton life on my iPad and Macs.
That's not a fair comparison. You cannot compare a budget Android phone with an iPhone. You can only compare the flagship Android phones to the iPhone since they are the only true competitors. Budget handsets are for those who cannot justify the price of an iPhone, or equivalent Android/Windows handset.
Doesn't slow down flagship phones. I use Nova Launcher, and yes a custom ROM (WanamLite - still TouchWiz based) - absolutely no slow downs.
It's not "BS", I'm literally sitting here with it - it couldn't be further from "BS".
Any real-world recent examples? Android malware, etc., is like the argument that Macs get viruses. Technically they can, but in real-life, it doesn't happen. At least in my 8 years of, not particularly careful, use of OS X it hasn't happened - including tens of friends/family members.
Indeed. I've personally been using most of those services/apps with my iDevices and Macs since the iPhone 3G (or since appropriate release), as I've already mentioned.
Not at all. I think being a web developer, and forum user makes me a geek![]()
Good question, and the answer is absolutely. Here's some proof. I absolutely recommend iOS to people when it's suitable. (I had recently moved to my current S3 when I had posted that - moved in September).
I respect your opinions, although they do seem rather extreme! You claim that, without a complete rewrite, Android is going to die soon.
You're also reluctant to accept any of my opinion, which is fine, but does set alarms off from my perspective that you're quite attached to the Apple logo. I was the same until I gave Android a proper go. Brand loyalty is a personal choice - I'm just not loyal!
We clearly want different things from our phones. I prefer customization options, upgradeable software functionality, and more choice. On my tablet, however, I agree with you a little more. I prefer the simplicity and blandness of iOS - it's indisputably robust and familiar.
I think there's a number of things that iOS could introduce that would make me want to move back (hell, I love the iPhone as a physical handset), but until then, it just doesn't offer enough for me in comparison with my Android setup.
Happy to agree to disagree, naturally, but good debate![]()
Turn the feature off.
/facepalm
You're not getting it, or you're just being obtuse out of some sort of allegiance.
These chat heads are still faster and more convenient on an OS-wide basis than switching between apps. Pull your head out of the sand.
So, a single tap on a little circle that will only bring up one app is 'faster and more convenient on an OS-wide basis' than a single tap on the notification bar?
That doesn't even start to make sense.