Again - BOTH are inappropriate and neither should be done by anyone with a store unit.
Worse/Better is irrelevant. The device isn't yours - so you should treat it - and everyone else who might want to use it with respect.
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Jailbreaking at apple store, abuse ^10 power
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Again - BOTH are inappropriate and neither should be done by anyone with a store unit.
Worse/Better is irrelevant. The device isn't yours - so you should treat it - and everyone else who might want to use it with respect.
You all (and by all, I mean those considering Jailbreaking the phones at the Apple Store) should read what Jwittenmyer said. What he said is quoted above for reference.
Honestly, the demo products for the public to use is a PRIVILEGE, so just like how it's legal for you to jailbreak their phones, it's also legal for them to take away those demo units. Now how fun would the Apple store be then? Seriously guys, I know some of you think it's cute and fun to **** around with the products. But let's all try to grow up.
That being said, I know I'm a person on the internet and what I say will probably have a 0% chance of influencing anybody reading this post. But, I rest my case.
Synopsis: Privileges can be taken away too.
"Your" iPhone. Not others. And this will get shut down because, as the Dev team itself has stated, it uses an exploit. It would be interesting to see, however, if they made this one also patch the exploit when installation is finished.
Yes.
Well, they are not using stock iOS 4 either. Change the settings (which are in the section your average user can't access on the demo units, IIRC) to disable 3G Data and force all internet through the wifi - which then has jailbreakme.com and it's IP address blacklisted.
Do you know what an "exploit" is? This jailbreak uses an exploit in Safari to work - therefore, this is NOT the intended behavior.
As for the vandalism bit, it's very easy to prove damage was done, in this case. The phones have to be restored by store employees - that means Apple is having to pay to fix what you've done - damages. And considering everything, if you are not open to charges of vandalism, you are probably open to charges of hacking.
Sorry, even the dev team calls their method an exploit.
Needing to invite them in, plus lack of an ability to prove damages (monetary or otherwise) is a good reason why if you took someone to court/tried to get them arrested, is the main reason why it wouldn't go far. But it's not a similar situation. A better one would be me getting invited over and installing WindowsME on your computer. And that would mess up and causes losses, and you could win a lawsuit against me due to that.
You all (and by all, I mean those considering Jailbreaking the phones at the Apple Store) should read what Jwittenmyer said. What he said is quoted above for reference.
Honestly, the demo products for the public to use is a PRIVILEGE, so just like how it's legal for you to jailbreak their phones, it's also legal for them to take away those demo units. Now how fun would the Apple store be then? Seriously guys, I know some of you think it's cute and fun to **** around with the products. But let's all try to grow up.
Synopsis: Privileges can be taken away too.
I agree that if this becomes a widespread issue Apple may indeed just have their iPhone demo units installed with "locked" demo software. The last thing they want is those phones installed with non-Apple approved apps, or even a jailbreak just causing functional problems.
However, I don't think they will ever keep these units locked away behind glass. They have always emphasized the importance of "handling" their hardware in-store as an "experience" that few can rival. For this reason I doubt the privilege will ever be revoked, but simply limited in its capacity (i.e. blocked access to certain websites, cydia, etc.).
It's surprisingly easy to block specific websites through DNS servers.
They will probably just do that.
wow, JB via safari browser? That means anyone can go to an apple retail store, use any of their many iPhone 4 demo stations and jailbreak their entire fleet of iPhone 4 demos for sh*ts and giggles.
Just lettin' ya'll know.
What would be really funny is if Apple programmed the front camera to turn on when Safari was launched and captured people trying to jailbreak, then the manager would come up to them w/ security to wait for the police to arrest them for electronic vandalism. That would be a real hoot if someone took pics of them being pushed into the squad car. Mommy and daddy would be so proud.
There's still some legal fuzziness surrounding jailbreaking. More clearly, It is now not a violation of the DMCA to jailbreak your iPhone. But, that doesn't prevent Apple from going after people in civil court for copyright infringement, and, in some cases, jailbreaking may still be breaking the law (as in a crime).
For example, when you jailbreak your iPhone you violate terms of your license agreement with Apple. By violating those terms, the copy of iOS you're using is no longer authorized for your use. If you continue to use iOS, then you will be using and in possession of an unauthorized copy of the software, and that may be copyright infringement. The copyright infringement is at the very least a civil matter, but it may be a federal crime depending on how you use the unauthorized copy of iOS.
vandalism as said before. your altering a product that is on display.
its like putting paint on a picture. (kinda)