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The iPhone wouldnt be as good if you couldnt jailbreak it and would be just another phone. Jailbreaking is what makes it great and it is a much better device when jailbroken. Some people fret that it is a bit buggier and even though i cant say for certain because ive never had one that wasnt jailbroken, ......id rather have it a bit buggy than not have a jailbreak on it.

As for being illegal. It isnt illegal. It is my phone and i can do whatever i want with it. If they dont want to warrant it because of what ive done, that is their perogative.

You're correct, it's 100% legal... I'm OCD, so if the phone isn't "vanilla," it's not appealing to me. Sure there is a "wow factor" for a few days, then I grow tired of it. It's just my opinion though. :)
 
Un-Jailbroken

An iPhone that isn't jailbroken is like a marriage without sex!!! So if I can learn to
live without sex then I will never jailbreak another iPhone again!!:p
 
Umm

I think jailbreaking is just wrong cos you get a world of cracked apps, robbing hard working developers from their cash.


Maybe you don't, but jailbreaking makes it possible.


No one forces you to download cracked apps....cydia alone is enough to jailbreak your iPhone.
 
:mad:

I'm going to jailbreak any iPhone I want. You people who don't like it are going to have to deal with because thats what I want to do and there isn't a damn thing you can say or do about it.
 
I don't care if its technically legal or not. Its your device. Do what you want with it is my stance on that subject. You paid for it after all. I've jailbroken my Touch and 3GS, only to restore within weeks of jailbreaking them. I'm with OP here. Jailbreaking just caused both devices to be buggy and slow. Seemed like I was constantly rebooting. Battery life was noticeably worse with it. The majority seem to favor it, its just not for me. IOS4 gives me all the functionality I need.
 
He's right on some things. I don't jailbreak because things are buggy and your phone won't perform as designed.

of course it won't perform as designed. thats why we jailbreak.

sbsettings is absolutely a necessity for easy toggles.
lockinfo makes iOS's horrible notifications MUCH more usable (similar to androids notification bar)
biteSMS > messages app

these are the main reasons i do it.
 
apple doesn't care if you jailbreak, they pretend to but they don't.. if people can unlock phones to be used on other networks then they sell more phones... it's profitable to them to allow it, though they don't want to say it's ok because it also carries with it pirating apps and using tethering etc that other companies would not be ok with
 
I have owned every iPhone up to the 3GS (soon, the 4th iPhone) and I have jailbroken each device, each time giving it "another chance."
About a month after each time I jailbreak it I restore because of the poor performance and battery life.
It makes the phone so much buggier, and technically is illegal.
It's a plus to those who don't jailbreak to get updates w/o having all the data deleted from your apps.
There's a reason Apple doesn't allow it.
I have only read this post and I assume there are many replies that will say something similar to what I'm about to:

YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!

Jailbreaking gives you the freedom to do what you want with your hardware/OS. What you do with it (including bogging it down to being unusable) is totally under YOUR control.
 
I have owned every iPhone up to the 3GS (soon, the 4th iPhone) and I have jailbroken each device, each time giving it "another chance."
About a month after each time I jailbreak it I restore because of the poor performance and battery life.
It makes the phone so much buggier, and technically is illegal.
It's a plus to those who don't jailbreak to get updates w/o having all the data deleted from your apps.
There's a reason Apple doesn't allow it.

I have not had performance or battery life issues with jailbreaking. Have you ever restored an iPhone that wasn't jailbroken due to problems with battery life or performance?
What law does jailbreaking an iPhone violate?
 
Apps like iRealSMS and SBSettings make my phone complete. I see little to no difference in bugginess and battery life.

I agree. The functionality that those 2 apps provide is fundamental to my iPhone use. I'd add LockInfo to that list, too.
The vanilla iOS is really starting to show its age.
How many times of going to the home screen (thus interrupting what you were doing), finding Settings, then tapping Brightness and finally getting to the slider, then going back to what you were doing before people realize that.
 
jailbreaking is not illegal. stealing apps is illegal. ill never NOT jailbreak. bitesms and iblacklist for life!

Interesting how people assume that because they bought an iPhone that they can do anything they want with it. If you read the TOS, the following is stated:

"You may not and you agree not to, or to enable others to, copy (except as expressly permitted by this License), decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble, attempt to derive the source code of, decrypt, modify, or create
derivative works of the iPhone Software or any services provided by the iPhone Software, or any part thereof (except as and only to the extent any foregoing restriction is prohibited by applicable law or to the extent as may be
permitted by licensing terms governing use of open-sourced components included with the iPhone Software). Any attempt to do so is a violation of the rights of Apple and its licensors of the iPhone Software."

This means, that the jailbroken phone is illegal as the operating system has been modified and a derivative version of the iOS was created and installed on your phone.

Now, I am sure that Apple has bigger issues to worry about than people that jailbreak their phones.
 
I don't care if its technically legal or not. Its your device. Do what you want with it is my stance on that subject. You paid for it after all. I've jailbroken my Touch and 3GS, only to restore within weeks of jailbreaking them. I'm with OP here. Jailbreaking just caused both devices to be buggy and slow. Seemed like I was constantly rebooting. Battery life was noticeably worse with it. The majority seem to favor it, its just not for me. IOS4 gives me all the functionality I need.



Could it be that most people that jailbreak their phones, don't realize how much better the phone performs when it is not jailbroken ?
 
I have jailbroken every iphone since day 1 and no issues with any of them. Looking forward to the iphone 4 break
 
Could it be that most people that jailbreak their phones, don't realize how much better the phone performs when it is not jailbroken ?

Or could it be that if you have hardware that can actually handle it, the "difference" in performance between stock and jailbroken is virtually indistinguishable?
 
I have owned every iPhone up to the 3GS (soon, the 4th iPhone) and I have jailbroken each device, each time giving it "another chance."
About a month after each time I jailbreak it I restore because of the poor performance and battery life.
It makes the phone so much buggier, and technically is illegal.
It's a plus to those who don't jailbreak to get updates w/o having all the data deleted from your apps.
There's a reason Apple doesn't allow it.

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Ur probably doing it wrong. My jailbreaks run smooth and fast every time.
Just because you don't know how to jailbreak it properly doesn't mean you should just bitch and complain about others who can do it properly.
U suck
 
Interesting how people assume that because they bought an iPhone that they can do anything they want with it. If you read the TOS, the following is stated:

"You may not and you agree not to, or to enable others to, copy (except as expressly permitted by this License), decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble, attempt to derive the source code of, decrypt, modify, or create
derivative works of the iPhone Software or any services provided by the iPhone Software, or any part thereof (except as and only to the extent any foregoing restriction is prohibited by applicable law or to the extent as may be
permitted by licensing terms governing use of open-sourced components included with the iPhone Software). Any attempt to do so is a violation of the rights of Apple and its licensors of the iPhone Software."

This means, that the jailbroken phone is illegal as the operating system has been modified and a derivative version of the iOS was created and installed on your phone.

Now, I am sure that Apple has bigger issues to worry about than people that jailbreak their phones.

Man ****
 
I think these are 2 reason people have bad jailbreak experience:

1. Not knowing how to manage memory. You gotta do it. Specially on 3G or less which only gives like 16mb to play with. This can quickly disappear with 3 apps running in background or having stuff like movie wallpaper. You just really need to monitor the memory and how its affected by stuff you install. There are tools under sbsettings to monitor and free up memory.

2. Bad install...stuff goes wrong and you just need to reinstall. W
 
I installed an after-market CD player in my car the other day. Got pulled over and issued a citation for it. Apparently opening up the dash and modifying the electronics was against the vehicle's EULA. So yes, jailbreaking is just as illegal. And since it makes pirating apps possible, it's just like selling an after-market CD player to a drug dealer who only sells meth to pre-schoolers. And frankly, I don't want to be associated with that.
 
Dude that sucks!!! I have a radar detector, laser jammers, and a dvd unit on mine that i think the company didn't exactly make the handbrake feature work. Before anyone goes and has a heart attack, laser jammers are legal in texas. The DVD and crap...well my car had a pos radio before and since I wanted to be able to play my iphone movies, youtube, etc on there I decided to go with that although some of it seems to be questionable on the legality side of things. Hope you can get out of that ticket because it seems like crap that you could even get ticketed for that.

I installed an after-market CD player in my car the other day. Got pulled over and issued a citation for it. Apparently opening up the dash and modifying the electronics was against the vehicle's EULA. So yes, jailbreaking is just as illegal. And since it makes pirating apps possible, it's just like selling an after-market CD player to a drug dealer who only sells meth to pre-schoolers. And frankly, I don't want to be associated with that.
 
Interesting how people assume that because they bought an iPhone that they can do anything they want with it. If you read the TOS, the following is stated:

"You may not and you agree not to, or to enable others to, copy (except as expressly permitted by this License), decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble, attempt to derive the source code of, decrypt, modify, or create
derivative works of the iPhone Software or any services provided by the iPhone Software, or any part thereof (except as and only to the extent any foregoing restriction is prohibited by applicable law or to the extent as may be
permitted by licensing terms governing use of open-sourced components included with the iPhone Software). Any attempt to do so is a violation of the rights of Apple and its licensors of the iPhone Software."

This means, that the jailbroken phone is illegal as the operating system has been modified and a derivative version of the iOS was created and installed on your phone.

Now, I am sure that Apple has bigger issues to worry about than people that jailbreak their phones.

Let me refer you to a post I made sometime ago about this.

The DMCA has a list of exemptions to protection circumvention. One of these is mobile phone firmware that forces you to use one carrier network. Unlocking, and the circumvention of its protection, is legal (See http://www.copyright.gov/1201/ and http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2006/11/8280.ars). This is why Apple is helpless and why they attempted to convince the copyright office it was illegal a few months back without success.

Jailbreaking is NOT illegal. End of. Apple can write whatever they like in their TOS, but whether it's legally binding is another matter.
 
Jailbreaking is NOT illegal. End of. Apple can write whatever they like in their TOS, but whether it's legally binding is another matter.

They'd have no case anyway. The games we used to write ASM scripts for had sh`it about not hacking in their ToS but it definitely wasn't legally binding...though some might've tried.

Also, the overwhelming amount of support behind it and the huge user-base are a large factor in why it wouldn't really matter whether or not it was illegal.
 
I installed an after-market CD player in my car the other day. Got pulled over and issued a citation for it. Apparently opening up the dash and modifying the electronics was against the vehicle's EULA. So yes, jailbreaking is just as illegal. And since it makes pirating apps possible, it's just like selling an after-market CD player to a drug dealer who only sells meth to pre-schoolers. And frankly, I don't want to be associated with that.

youll never catch me getting a ticket like that. you must be on a whole nother level...
 
I installed an after-market CD player in my car the other day. Got pulled over and issued a citation for it. Apparently opening up the dash and modifying the electronics was against the vehicle's EULA. So yes, jailbreaking is just as illegal. And since it makes pirating apps possible, it's just like selling an after-market CD player to a drug dealer who only sells meth to pre-schoolers. And frankly, I don't want to be associated with that.

I've never seen or heard of a case like that. Ever. And I've had discussions like this revolving around automobiles a LOT.

I did a quick search and didn't turn up any evidence either. I call bulls`hit but who knows, I guess.
 
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