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Jailbreakme + Bitesms = death

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Lol u don't have to leave it as is u should just jailbreak it with pwnage tools.. Works fine with everything
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Seriously, PwnageTool or Redsn0w both work with 4.3.3 and they're both dead easy to use. I understand the appeal of jailbreakme, I used it for 4.0 and was petrified I'd screw something up using one of the others to upgrade. But these are reliable, tested over thousands of jailbreaks and with all JB apps. And honestly, if I had to make the choice, I'd learn a dozen new tools rather than lose biteSMS.
 
IrishVixen said:
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Seriously, PwnageTool or Redsn0w both work with 4.3.3 and they're both dead easy to use. I understand the appeal of jailbreakme, I used it for 4.0 and was petrified I'd screw something up using one of the others to upgrade. But these are reliable, tested over thousands of jailbreaks and with all JB apps. And honestly, if I had to make the choice, I'd learn a dozen new tools rather than lose biteSMS.
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You have to enter dfu mode and restore from a jailbroken version of 4.3.3 on PwnageTool right? Or something along those lines?
 
Possible Solution - Get out of infinite reboot

I managed to come out of the infinite reboot by connecting the iPhone to my Mac and then I had about 10 seconds between every reboot where I could access the file system I did that via iPhone Explorer and delete this folder: Root/Applications/Bitesms.
After that my phone went in to safe mode and I could uninstall via Cydia then respire and my phone is back working again. :)
 
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IrishVixen said:
Both tools walk you through the entire process, including DFU.

The appropriate tutorial for your device can be found here:

http://www.iclarified.com/entries/index.php?caid=2&scid=11&seid=2
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Don't you lose all your backup that way? I jailbroke my phone on 4.3.3 with pwnagetool and I lost all my phone data because you have to restore from a different jailbroken backup, so I just restored from an original backup and waited until there was a different way to jailbreak 4.3.3.

Yes, I know I could've copied folders with my app data in iphone explorer and transfer them over but I was too lazy.
 
pezasied182 said:
Don't you lose all your backup that way? I jailbroke my phone on 4.3.3 with pwnagetool and I lost all my phone data because you have to restore from a different jailbroken backup, so I just restored from an original backup and waited until there was a different way to jailbreak 4.3.3.

Yes, I know I could've copied folders with my app data in iphone explorer and transfer them over but I was too lazy.
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You shouldn't lose your data with redsn0w. You'll go into DFU but then come out of it with all your apps intact. I just JB my 4.3.3 IP4 this evening after hearing about all the problems with jailbreakme.com and it worked great. Not as easy as the website but not hard, and saurik even warned on twitter that jailbreakme.com could be buggy because it had to be rushed out due to the leak. Stick with known working JB where you can and only use the website for your iPad 2.
 
DN7335 said:
You shouldn't lose your data with redsn0w. You'll go into DFU but then come out of it with all your apps intact. I just JB my 4.3.3 IP4 this evening after hearing about all the problems with jailbreakme.com and it worked great. Not as easy as the website but not hard, and saurik even warned on twitter that jailbreakme.com could be buggy because it had to be rushed out due to the leak. Stick with known working JB where you can and only use the website for your iPad 2.
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The bolded line should be plastered across every article that refers to jailbreakme.com.

And with Pwnage, you can restore from backup afterwards. But if you don't need baseband preservation, use Redsn0w. If you backup first and follow the tutorial, you shouldn't lose anything. Look, gang, I'm female and older than 90% of this board, and *I* can manage to use the big boy tools. I'm pretty sure you guys can figure this out. :D

It should go without saying, but I'll say it anyways: Anyone who tweaks their phone without a backup deserves what they get. My data is backed up in 3 places, and a LOT is backed up separate from iTunes, which is more buggy than any JB tool or app I've ever used.
 
DN7335 said:
You shouldn't lose your data with redsn0w. You'll go into DFU but then come out of it with all your apps intact. I just JB my 4.3.3 IP4 this evening after hearing about all the problems with jailbreakme.com and it worked great. Not as easy as the website but not hard, and saurik even warned on twitter that jailbreakme.com could be buggy because it had to be rushed out due to the leak. Stick with known working JB where you can and only use the website for your iPad 2.
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Exactly. I jailbroke an iPhone 4, 4.3.3 with Redsn0w yesterday and I use BiteSMS and no problems. I agree with that it's buggy because it was rushed out. If it didn't get leaked and we had a proper release, we wouldn't be seeing so many issues.

brayhite said:
Is there anyway to get the phone out of endless reboot mode without connecting it to a computer?
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Nope.
 
How do you think this will be fixed? An update to bite? Update to jailbreakme? How would that work?
 
rubino said:
I managed to come out of the infinite reboot by connecting the iPhone to my Mac and then I had about 10 seconds between every reboot where I could access the file system I did that via iPhone Explorer and delete this folder: Root/Applications/Bitesms.
After that my phone went in to safe mode and I could uninstall via Cydia then respire and my phone is back working again. :)
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I deleted it via iPhone Explorer, iTunes recognized the iPhone, but then it went back to rebooting? Any suggestion on what to do from here?

EDIT: I checked the phone again via iPhone Explorer and the biteSMS app was still there. I guess it didn't delete the first time. I can't figure out when it's successfully deleting or not without checking again.
 
mwohrlin said:
How do you think this will be fixed? An update to bite? Update to jailbreakme? How would that work?
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It would probably be a jailbreakme.com update. Bite worked with every other jailbreak so I don't see why they should change it. JBme.com was flawed because it was released too quickly due to the leak.
 
awadeee said:
It would probably be a jailbreakme.com update. Bite worked with every other jailbreak so I don't see why they should change it. JBme.com was flawed because it was released too quickly due to the leak.
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Could go either way--I'd guess it's whoever finds a fix first. The bite team is one of the most proactive set of devs I've seen, they may not be willing to sit back and wait for comex to fix this on his end.
 
I'm still wondering though, as my gf's phone went to the infinite reboot mode, but mine did not (both JB'd with jbme.com). Should I just restore my phone as it will inevitably go into infinite reboot mode or should it be okay at this point?
 
brayhite said:
I'm still wondering though, as my gf's phone went to the infinite reboot mode, but mine did not (both JB'd with jbme.com). Should I just restore my phone as it will inevitably go into infinite reboot mode or should it be okay at this point?
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To me, it depends on how dependent you are on that phone and on bite. You can uninstall bite through Cydia, and wait for a fix, or you can reJB now with redsn0w and not have to worry about it. The one thing I wouldn't personally do is leave it as is, since this looks like a widespread issue. Seems like it's just a matter of time before it hits you.
 
IrishVixen said:
To me, it depends on how dependent you are on that phone and on bite. You can uninstall bite through Cydia, and wait for a fix, or you can reJB now with redsn0w and not have to worry about it. The one thing I wouldn't personally do is leave it as is, since this looks like a widespread issue. Seems like it's just a matter of time before it hits you.
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Hmm, that's what I was thinking. Is it possible to create a backup of my JB'en phone and restore from redsn0w? A link would be great but if yes, I'll google and find it myself.

Just out of curiosity, why (in layman's terms) does the source for the jailbreak matter? Is it not all the same, just from a different host site?
 
brayhite said:
Hmm, that's what I was thinking. Is it possible to create a backup of my JB'en phone and restore from redsn0w? A link would be great but if yes, I'll google and find it myself.

Just out of curiosity, why (in layman's terms) does the source for the jailbreak matter? Is it not all the same, just from a different host site?
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Just JB using Redsn0w over your current JB. No restore needed!

No matter what method you use to jailbreak, you're going to get the same end result: Cydia. However, this new jailbreak was rushed because it was leaked before its initial release. Comex rushed to make it available and now we have bugs.
 
awadeee said:
Just JB using Redsn0w over your current JB. No restore needed!

No matter what method you use to jailbreak, you're going to get the same end result: Cydia. However, this new jailbreak was rushed because it was leaked before its initial release. Comex rushed to make it available and now we have bugs.
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Ah, so just jailbreak with redsn0w, doing nothing to my iphone now, and all the settings and tweaks should still be intact? That'd be awesome!

EDIT: After restoring another iPhone, I'm using redsn0w as recommended by Vixen. I don't see where it says that everything will be deleted though. Will it? One convenience of using jbme was no data (contacts, etc.) were lost. However, this is recommending I restore from the firmware downloaded. Won't this delete the data?
 
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brayhite said:
Ah, so just jailbreak with redsn0w, doing nothing to my iphone now, and all the settings and tweaks should still be intact? That'd be awesome!

EDIT: After restoring another iPhone, I'm using redsn0w as recommended by Vixen. I don't see where it says that everything will be deleted though. Will it? One convenience of using jbme was no data (contacts, etc.) were lost. However, this is recommending I restore from the firmware downloaded. Won't this delete the data?
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Redsn0w doesn't delete anything. It just jailbreaks the phone's firmware that it's currently running. :confused:
 
Id email the biteSMS dev's. As juiced said it might be a comparability issue. I am on 4.1 JB (iPhone 4) still with latest version of biteSMS and i have zero issues.
 
Almeuit said:
Id email the biteSMS dev's. As juiced said it might be a comparability issue. I am on 4.1 JB (iPhone 4) still with latest version of biteSMS and i have zero issues.
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I've contacted them via their forum and twitter - no response but I am sure they are aware of the fact that JBME 3.0 doesn't ryhme w/ BiteSMS. Bite has always worked for me, even on 4.3.3 JBed w/ Redsn0w so we'll see what they come up with and if comex can patch this when he releases fix for the Camera connection kit
 
K, so I only skimmed this thread. Sorry if it's already been brought up but I'm pretty sure it hasn't been.


The issue most definitely is ONLY with jailbreakme 3.0 jailbreak, but not because jbme3 was released prematurely and it's buggy. It's because it's a totally different kind of jailbreak method. All previous jailbreak methods had to move all kinds of junk in the OS and several apps (like Safari and others) around, which caused performance and stability problems for some. It basically split the filesystem and really hacked it so the phone didn't know the difference. They adapted the OS to the jailbreak.

jbme3 is the first to use the unionfs concept (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UnionFS). Rather than moving stuff around and hacking the OS to be okay with it, unionfs allows the jailbreak to be adapted to the OS (more or less) by just transparently merging the extra stuff with what was already there. This (in theory) means no performance issues and fewer stability/compatibility problems. It also means the amount of time it takes to perform the jailbreak and setup Cydia is dramatically reduced.

For me, it took less than 30 seconds for my phone to be completely jailbroken and install my first app from Cydia. Time it takes to use redsn0w? Like 5 minutes or longer. And the speed? Oh man, I feel like I have an iPhone 5! Who knew?

The one downside is that some apps that have relied on databases being moved to a different location and stuff (like bitesms) will have to have a minor update to point to the right place now. That's oversimplifying it, but you get the gist. I just hope it happens soon. I miss my bite... :(
 
Solowalker said:
For me, it took less than 30 seconds for my phone to be completely jailbroken and install my first app from Cydia. Time it takes to use redsn0w? Like 5 minutes or longer. And the speed? Oh man, I feel like I have an iPhone 5! Who knew?
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I KNOW. I was very impressed and was almost skeptical of its legitimacy simply due to the fact that it installed so damn quickly.

Solowalker said:
The one downside is that some apps that have relied on databases being moved to a different location and stuff (like bitesms) will have to have a minor update to point to the right place now. That's oversimplifying it, but you get the gist. I just hope it happens soon. I miss my bite... :(
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If you really need bite, re-jailbreak with Redsn0w.
 
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