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sickracer2015

macrumors member
Original poster
Apr 14, 2003
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The Java 1.4.1 Update 1 adds the following enhancements:

• Improved Java applet support for Safari and other web browsers that support the Java Internet Plug-In.
• Improved drawing correctness and performance.
• Changes to Java 1.3.1 that provide support for Oracle11i client applications on Mac OS X.
• Improved stability, memory usage, and correctness.

For more details on this update, please visit: http://www.apple.com/java/
 

synthetickittie

macrumors regular
Dec 17, 2002
223
0
Boston
ya still not working, I just looked at the code and its java script not java. The display will not show AT ALL. Their is another problem above it that is a java display that works but the javascript one does not. Ive tried camino, safari, and explorer yet not work. Kinda annoying that now I know Im gonna have to go get on a windows computer to view this thing some where on campus and not just being able to sit in my room and do it. Is there ANY home that some broswer will some day soon fix this or would this be something to do with masos x the OS its self?
 

jihad the movie

macrumors regular
Jun 18, 2003
136
0
Smugtown, NY
I think it made my safari more stable

It hasn't crashed on the sites it usually crashes on!


I think this is a sign that the next version is due out soon!
 

ColoJohnBoy

macrumors 65816
Mar 10, 2003
1,129
0
Denver, Colorado
Hooray! Java was one of the things that made Safari the slightly-less-than-perfect browser. I haven't had any problems so far. I hope Java is right around the corner.
 

shadowfax

macrumors 603
Sep 6, 2002
5,849
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Houston, TX
Originally posted by mactastic
Hmmm... I'm guessing if I wait till tomorrow I could update a couple more things all at once...:cool:
yeah, maybe. dang! i have 25 days on my uptime. i can't restart now! :mad::mad:
 

mvc

macrumors 6502a
Jul 11, 2003
760
0
Outer-Roa
Originally posted by synthetickittie
…ANY hope that some browser will some day soon fix this or would this be something to do with masos x the OS its self?

Without seeing the code I expect the problem is windows specific javascript that will never run on OSX in any browser. I assume this code is created on a PC? This is very common - Microsoft takes a (relatively) open technology standard like javascript and puts little useful hooks in it that (shucks!) only work on Windows. The people creating the code are often ignorant of the fact that it only works on PC, or don't care.

Its called leveraging, and its a monopolists game from way back.

Thats why they were being sued, remember?
 

GeoMac

macrumors newbie
Aug 7, 2003
11
0
Boston
Originally posted by mvc
Without seeing the code I expect the problem is windows specific javascript that will never run on OSX in any browser. I assume this code is created on a PC? This is very common - Microsoft takes a (relatively) open technology standard like javascript and puts little useful hooks in it that (shucks!) only work on Windows. The people creating the code are often ignorant of the fact that it only works on PC, or don't care.
hey were being sued, remember?

not likely. Jave was created by Sun, and they use unix on their own Sun computers. Probably closer to a Mac than PC. Microsoft isn't even allowed to include their own version of Java on their OS anymore (VM).
 

pwm519

macrumors newbie
Jul 16, 2002
14
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Yea my dental school is a mess right now as we just switched to a "cross platform" dental clinic management system called Quick Recovery that is supposed to be Java based (using the Jwalk client) and run on both Macs and Pcs. While the application runs on macs, it is very slow, can't right click (control click) and you can't drag and drop within it and thus can not treatment plan or change treatment plans (unfortunately something that must be done on a daily basis). They've promised compatibility but I have a feeling it's not going to workout. I would imagine that Apple sticks to the Java standard pretty well and the problem is a poorly coded application. I'm interested to know if this fixed functionality problems? Java is not the cross platform solution it was supposed to be.
 

mvc

macrumors 6502a
Jul 11, 2003
760
0
Outer-Roa
Originally posted by GeoMac
not likely. Jave was created by Sun, and they use unix on their own Sun computers. Probably closer to a Mac than PC. Microsoft isn't even allowed to include their own version of Java on their OS anymore (VM).

But we are talking about JAVASCRIPT, or jscript or vbscribt more likely - his original point was that the java upgrade made no difference to the site he was looking at because the source was javascript, and Java and Javascipt are two very different animals.

Microsoft still has its own propriety extensions to the javacript language, they have no connection whatsoever to the big Java VM hoohaa between them and Sun.

But that IS yet another example of Microsoft attempting to leverage its desktop monopoly into other technology areas :mad:
 

GregGomer

macrumors member
Jul 24, 2002
60
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Hey, maybe this is the software that was rumored to be released this week. If so it really is unexpected :)

Obviously I doubt it is... but glad to see the update just the same.
 

GeoMac

macrumors newbie
Aug 7, 2003
11
0
Boston
well most importnantly, my yahoo fantasy football stattracker seems to be working alot better, so I'm very happy with the update :)
 

jholzner

macrumors 65816
Jul 24, 2002
1,384
0
Champaign, IL
Well, I installed the update and now gay.com chat works. It hasn't worked for over two years on a Mac with ANY browser. I sent feedback to Apple after every update to Safari pointing this out. Glad to see it's finally fixed...for the most part.
 

3-22

macrumors regular
Nov 19, 2002
190
0
Java confusion....

I think someone else already pointed this out, but just to reiterate...

Javascript is not Java! Javascript was developed (i believe) orginally by Netscape. It has no relation to java except, a slightly similiair coding style.

Javascript has also became very "muddy", with various vendor implementations...
 

Stella

macrumors G3
Apr 21, 2003
8,803
6,173
Canada
Yep, spot on,
for example, one MS extension of JS which is very common is
Document.all

WTF is .ALL?
Its not Javascript standard.

It screws up websites because lazy web developers can't use
document.getElementById or .getElementByName


Originally posted by mvc
But we are talking about JAVASCRIPT, or jscript or vbscribt more likely - his original point was that the java upgrade made no difference to the site he was looking at because the source was javascript, and Java and Javascipt are two very different animals.

Microsoft still has its own propriety extensions to the javacript language, they have no connection whatsoever to the big Java VM hoohaa between them and Sun.

But that IS yet another example of Microsoft attempting to leverage its desktop monopoly into other technology areas :mad:
 

luiss

macrumors member
Jul 2, 2002
31
8
Originally posted by synthetickittie
... Ive tried camino, safari, and explorer yet not work...
Try a recent mozilla (i.e. 1.4 or 1.5beta) at mozilla.org.
 

orion123

macrumors regular
Jul 19, 2003
101
2
Boston
Blah, ESPN gamecast now crashes Safari, which it didnt before. And now it seems like 20% of websites are crashing it.

This sucks
 

vanmonkey

macrumors newbie
May 28, 2003
27
0
i don't get it. didn't i already update to java 1.4.1 like six months ago?

I don't understand. this udate has the same name???
 

QCassidy352

macrumors G4
Mar 20, 2003
11,957
5,831
Bay Area
Originally posted by orion123
Blah, ESPN gamecast now crashes Safari, which it didnt before. And now it seems like 20% of websites are crashing it.

This sucks

yes, me too. ESPN gamecast either crashes or just never loads now. When will I learn not to install these things as soon as they appear??? :mad:
 

jimthorn

macrumors 6502a
Apr 24, 2003
580
2
Huntington Beach, CA, USA
Originally posted by synthetickittie
ya still not working, I just looked at the code and its java script not java. The display will not show AT ALL. Their is another problem above it that is a java display that works but the javascript one does not. Ive tried camino, safari, and explorer yet not work. Kinda annoying that now I know Im gonna have to go get on a windows computer to view this thing some where on campus and not just being able to sit in my room and do it. Is there ANY home that some broswer will some day soon fix this or would this be something to do with masos x the OS its self?

How about giving us a web address so we can see why it's not working?
 

BKMaggert

macrumors newbie
Dec 7, 2002
4
0
Carbondale, CO
Originally posted by QCassidy352
yes, me too. ESPN gamecast either crashes or just never loads now. When will I learn not to install these things as soon as they appear??? :mad:
Ditto here. Bummer things got worse.

Good thing I prefer "Gameday" on http://www.MLB.com (for 'baseball' Gamecast). It still works. Gameday does basically the same thing as Gamecast but also includes pitch location after each pitch and shows the hit/out location in the field diagram. Try it.
 

Photorun

macrumors 65816
Sep 1, 2003
1,216
0
NYC
Those of you having crashes, is there an old java pref file perhaps in OS X to throw out? Just something to consider, I don't know if this will fix it, just a suggestion.
 
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