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It's a little better than what it used to be, but still not as good as Spotify. There's too much of a focus on mainstream commercial artists and not enough discovery of lesser known artists. Its playlist sharing and library just pale in comparison to Spotify's. I also absolutely hate the fact, as others have pointed out, that you have to use iTunes to get into Apple Music. iTunes is the biggest POS software and it's largely useless. Just break out Apple Music from iTunes and I'll consider going back to Apple Music.

Spotify is always making changes and for the better. I think Amazon Music needs improvement as well.

And iTunes is cluttered and needs revamping. I agree it can be unusable at times.
 
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I wish I could tolerate this person's appearance better. (yeah, I'm being judgmental).
At least he dropped the backward cap which just made him look like an ol" man trying to look like a kid. Sorry

Methinks you should read up on exactly who Jimmy is and what he means to the music industry. Then you will realize him being at Apple is a good thing.
 
It's a little better than what it used to be, but still not as good as Spotify. There's too much of a focus on mainstream commercial artists and not enough discovery of lesser known artists. Its playlist sharing and library just pale in comparison to Spotify's. I also absolutely hate the fact, as others have pointed out, that you have to use iTunes to get into Apple Music. iTunes is the biggest POS software and it's largely useless. Just break out Apple Music from iTunes and I'll consider going back to Apple Music.
Well, my guess is that they will eventually split it out, but it would not have been a good decision out of the gate. iTunes is the most popular desktop program that Apple makes and I doubt there is a close second. As a result, this was a way to make sure Windows owners (and Mac owners for that matter) got Apple Music marketed to them without needing them to download a separate app.

Personally, I prefer Apple Music to Spotify. Of course, one of the main issues is that the Spotify app would not play nice with my car's nav system and that is unforgivable. Also, Spotify does not work with Siri.
 
They've been talking so much about how they are gonna make Apple Music so amazing and so special, but... nothing is ever happening..
Jim Dalrymple (who was/is a very big critic of AM) says the curation is getting better. I fear this is like Siri though. Once someone has a bad experience they don't go back and just assume it's always going to be bad.
 
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"Cultural point of reference"? That sounds like ambiguous hogwash that was mentioned either at a team meeting or a cocktail party. It's a music streaming service, for crying out loud! Music streaming services are not earth-shattering products in 2017.
 
It's a little better than what it used to be, but still not as good as Spotify. There's too much of a focus on mainstream commercial artists and not enough discovery of lesser known artists. Its playlist sharing and library just pale in comparison to Spotify's. I also absolutely hate the fact, as others have pointed out, that you have to use iTunes to get into Apple Music. iTunes is the biggest POS software and it's largely useless. Just break out Apple Music from iTunes and I'll consider going back to Apple Music.
The thing I hate (I don't know if this is a bug or what) is every time I add music in iTunes I need to turn off iCloud Music Library and then back on again on my iOS devices for the music to show up. And some music I have that is longer than 2 hours when I try to split it in iTunes it gets to about 95% and then gives me some stupid error message that makes no sense. I hate that the only way to get content on iOS devices (music or video) is through iTunes on the desktop. Blech.
 
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Methinks you should read up on exactly who Jimmy is and what he means to the music industry. Then you will realize him being at Apple is a good thing.
Maybe YOU should re-read my post. I speak nothing about his meaning. I was speaking about his appearence.
 
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It's a little better than what it used to be, but still not as good as Spotify. There's too much of a focus on mainstream commercial artists and not enough discovery of lesser known artists. Its playlist sharing and library just pale in comparison to Spotify's. I also absolutely hate the fact, as others have pointed out, that you have to use iTunes to get into Apple Music. iTunes is the biggest POS software and it's largely useless. Just break out Apple Music from iTunes and I'll consider going back to Apple Music.

I agree with all of this. I signed back up w/ Apple Music begrudgingly due to the whole AW & ATV thing. AM playlists are just awful. If Spotify had a AW app, I would have stayed with them. But my middle ground is the free Spotify account and using the Houdini app to transfer playlists to Apple Music.

Apple Music playlists are awful. I'm not sure what system/algorithm they use to create the New Music and Favorites mixes but they aren't doing a very good job. The For You section as a whole is pretty bad.
 
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Our family cancelled Apple Music after trying valiantly to live with it since it was first released.
Ultimately? The service just stinks, all the way around.

The Music Match functionality seems to be the biggest thorn in our collective sides. My wife and I both own desktop Macs with extensive music collections housed on them. Mine has a MP3 "rip" of pretty much every track off every music CD I ever owned since I was in college, plus all sorts of content obtained online over the years.

Hers is the same way, except a fairly different mix of music collected up over the years. (I used to listen more to heavy metal and hard rock, while she was really into all of the British "new wave" type bands. Both of us have plenty of "classic rock" too -- but her collection tends to trend back a little further in time than mine. And where I'd have the occasional rap album, she tends to have the occasional country music album.)

For both of us, turning on Apple Music caused it to wreck our personal collections. Music Match would keep trying to replace albums we had with "high quality AAC" substitutes, only to incorrectly substitute things. Albums we owned with "bonus" tracks on the end might wind up replaced with one without them, or a rare import was improperly matched with something different. Cover album art got all mixed up too. And often, there would be an album where Apple Music apparently only had SOME of the songs from it -- so it would just delete the rest of them that we owned initially.

Thanks to Time Machine backups, I think both of us got our original collections restored again... but it was impossible to really get the intended experience, where all of our devices allowed access to our full libraries. (I think in my wife's case, she owned more tracks than Music Match even supports for matching.)

In my case? I just turned off Apple Music on my Mac that holds my "master collection", and let Apple Music work only with my iPhone. That wasn't too bad - because then I could download anything I felt like listening to and use it on the go with my bluetooth headset. BUT, because my commute takes me on a train through areas with no cellular data service? It constantly screwed with Apple Music playback. (Apparently, even if you downloaded a track to listen to offline, it needs to talk with an Apple server before playing it, to verify you still "own" it. If service drops out, it just hangs or times out and won't play a song ... or a song in progress stops playing and has to be restarted where it left off.)


Apple Music can go fly a kite if it is going to keep turning my phone into an advertisement.

I've disabled "show Apple Music" in settings three times this week only to have it reenable on its own every time. If I wanted a horrible user experience and to be the product, I would switch to Android. :mad:
 
Apple Music can go fly a kite if it is going to keep turning my phone into an advertisement.

I've disabled "show Apple Music" in settings three times this week only to have it reenable on its own every time. If I wanted a horrible user experience and to be the product, I would switch to Android. :mad:

Please do
 
While I agree with your sentiment that artists should be paid more, I think the onus is on the labels more than Apple, Spotify, and the like.

I see the music business a bit like the diamond business. If you put ALL artists out there, flood the market, you loose value in it all. If you cherry pick (and not just because the talent level is highest, but what you can market and 'sell') and promote it, you give it value.

So, yes, the artists make the music but the labels (usually) give the artist and the music it's perceived value.
 
You better make it like Spotify.


Apple's model is better for the artist, if you care about that sort of thing as opposed to simply the cheapest way to listen to music. Apple has been pushing for a greater streaming payment for the artist
 
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