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What television needs is a really good corporate drama. I've always thought this, and it would do so well.

Yes I agree. There was one in the UK back in the 60's I recall, can't remember the name now, but it was very good. Oh... I remember "The Power Game" wow, an old brain cell must have fired! OMG I just remembered an actress in it too; Rosemary Leech. I stopped drinking a week ago ... could there be a connection to my memory?
 
Which is exactly why he's a target. The cynical and corrupt can't stand the comparison—it's not good for business. But the good guys don't always finish last. I can hardly wait to see Steve Jobs vs. Bill Gates at the D Conference on May 30. Could be real blood bath.

I'm not sure what you meant, because Bill Gates certainly is an amazing person. He's donated tons of cash to many different causes and has done a lot of good with his money. Bill hasn't finished last though obviously, if that's what you meant and I do consider him to be a nice guy so...

Also, I'm curious as to who the hell keeps voting everything negative? I swear to God that the news could announce that Apple has cured cancer and AIDS and is giving it away for free and people would rate it negative: "GOD, APPLE IS JUST TRYING TO BE TOO COOL!"
 
Will the feds eventually make a statement saying hes clear or not? If so, what time frame?
 
This should be more negative. Maybe with someone new at the helm, apple will start innovating again instead rehashing years old technology like the iPhone. iPhone-welcome to 2004.
 
This should be more negative. Maybe with someone new at the helm, apple will start innovating again instead rehashing years old technology like the iPhone. iPhone-welcome to 2004.

Unless you know something I don't Apple has not completed the software on this device and it will likely do more than they originally announced so I don't see your point. Being OS X it's sure to be one of the most novel and handy devices we have ever seen for Mac users.:cool:
 
This should be more negative. Maybe with someone new at the helm, apple will start innovating again instead rehashing years old technology like the iPhone. iPhone-welcome to 2004.

ROFL

Unless you know something I don't Apple has not completed the software on this device and it will likely do more than they originally announced so I don't see your point. Being OS X it's sure to be one of the most novel and handy devices we have ever seen for Mac users.:cool:

I think (hope) he was being sarcastically humorous ...
 
omg.. when i first read that article i pointed at my screen angrily and was like "OMG MARTHA STEWART!!"
 
While not entirely disagreeing with your somewhat radical, basic premiss in historical terms, please explain where SJ 'stole' anything in this specific case?

My basic assertion is painted with a wide brush--exceptions can be found--but it is only radical from the perspective of the historically/sociologically naive or amnesiac. (sorry if the bluntness offends)

Cheating for profit is fraud. Fraud is a form of stealing.

So-called white-collar crime is a smiled-at, wrist-slapped endeavor in which only the hired hands suffer any serious punishment, with very few exceptions.
 
Will the feds eventually make a statement saying hes clear or not? If so, what time frame?

At some point, the SEC will announce whether they plan on filing charges or taking some other action, or no action. I'd expect to see this within the next couple of months. The wild card in the mix is the number of backdating episodes they are currently investigating, which is vast. This argues both for the SEC taking its sweet time, and also for them ultimately letting current officers at Apple off the hook. The other wild card is the shareholder lawsuit on the same matter, and the talk about AGs from some states investigating the possibility of filing charges of their own. The bottom line is that this cloud is not going away quickly, but it looks like it might be starting to disburse. We'll see tomorrow, by how this news is received by the market.
 
just speculating

i think that it might be someone who loves apple so dearly that s/he he is thinking: ' i cannot believe this is not over yet. go get em steve, wonderful steve. but damn the feds and anyone else who is dragging this out'. that person would vote this as negative. doesn't necessarily have to be a bad person or anti-apple. i did not vote
 
I was referring to EVERY topic, not just this one.

I know that some people click negative because the story doesn't interest them ( not something that I do,btw ) - and doing so does not infer trolling. There are many reasons why people may click negative, not just because they are trolls.

For example:
There was a topic that was about SJ was clear of his cancer ( or something related ). There were a lot of negatives. Why? People clicked negative not because there were sorry to him clear of cancer but clicked negative because - they thought that it was bad that he had cancer to begin with. The positive and negative can be interpreted in different ways. Its not black and white.

Sometimes, because of the ambiguous nature of the Positive and negative rating, I'm wondering why its there in the first place.

As it is can you explain the votes based on the actual threads that are here? I think perhaps it is you with your head up your ... sorry in your cloud.
 
we need Steve Jobs

uh...correct me if i'm wrong, but we all wouldn't be typing up this info on our Macs WITHOUT Steve Jobs. Think of where computers might be at without him...

Keep him in. Who knows where our world would be in technology right now if it wasn't for his genius.

cz
 
This is a forum... it was built for debates and points of views... hence the word Forum.
Read a little closer dude. This is certainly not the place for a worthy debate. If you argue otherwise you are just spinning your wheels. As I previously stated, it's great that he is not going to be in the middle of a criminal investigation here. If we had a Martha Stewart on our hands, this forum might implode.

Oh, here you go.
 
wait, i'm not getting it.... so backdating is not necessarily illegal?

Backdating options means giving money to the employees getting the backdated options. Giving your employees money has never been illegal. You just have to fill out all the forms correctly and (important) record it as an expense and make sure that everyone pays their taxes.

Now on stock boards you always find the idiots who think it is wrong to give your employees money because it reduces profits. If these idiots were running companies, they would go bankrupt because nobody would want to work for them.
 
There are principals of justice that are applied vigorously to the commoner that are not applied to the aristocrats, for the "higher good". T'was ever thus.

Damned right. The law does not apply equally to all. There's an awful lot of famous people who have got off without jail time, where as, if a commoner committed the same crime, they'd be jailed instantly.

Snoop Dogg is one that springs to mind.
 
This is good news, but who was it who voted this as negative???

Perhaps someone who considers it not positive that there's even the need for a discussion of a story that The Steve probably won't risk going to jail?

Or perhaps someone who understands that once the risk of criminal charges disappear, then the onslaught of civil lawsuits can begin?
 
uh...correct me if i'm wrong, but we all wouldn't be typing up this info on our Macs WITHOUT Steve Jobs. Think of where computers might be at without him...

Keep him in. Who knows where our world would be in technology right now if it wasn't for his genius.

cz

Are you saying that it's OK for some people to break the law? I'm not saying that Steve Jobs has, just trying to understand your argument.
 
It was a complete accident his 7.5 million shares were backdated massively in his favor. It's not his fault. These things happen when you're Steve Jobs. Petty, petty Feds. Don't they have bigger fish to fry? :D
 
You gotta love that one person who trolls Apple forums and uses every opportunity to remind us that he/she believes that Steve Jobs should burn in hell.

Steve Jobs is pure hearted compared to most corporate big wigs.

:apple:

I would not say he is pure hearted as I don't know him that well to make a statement like that.

I would say he is the soul of Apple, a great CEO and the best visionary I seen.

If I ever get to know him at a personal level, I may possibly agree.

Apple would suffer greatly without him, and the stock holders would also suffer a lot with a lost of 30 to 40% in stock value. This witch hunt is supposed to be to protect stock holders, but if these jerks go the wrong way, they will endup hurting the company and the stock holders they are suppoced to protect.

Glad news for now are good, now we need the feds to say the same.
 
My basic assertion is painted with a wide brush--exceptions can be found--but it is only radical from the perspective of the historically/sociologically naive or amnesiac. (sorry if the bluntness offends)

Cheating for profit is fraud. Fraud is a form of stealing.

So-called white-collar crime is a smiled-at, wrist-slapped endeavor in which only the hired hands suffer any serious punishment, with very few exceptions.

I am not sure any of us has the actual facts of the case, so we really do not know one way or another for sure.

Lots of people have a tendency of beleiving someone is guilty because they are being investigated. Obviously they have the right to their opinion.

I reserve judgement even if he is cleared until I can read the facts.

Mean time he is innocent and one of the greatest CEO's
 
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