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iPad Jobs says NO to iPad tether....

bluehaze013 said:
Your iPhone has a much smaller battery in it ;) They said iPad is 10 hours of constant use, web surfing with wifi, watching movies, playing games etc...

Laptops last 10-12 hours nowadays no reason the ipad won't. Only reason the phones don't is because they have to use a small battery.
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I have an MSI U100 netbook with the largest battery available and it would at best get around 6 hours. My Dell laptop more like 3. Apples latest MB Pro's are maxed at 8 hours. What laptops are you seeing that get 10-12hours of continuous web surfing with the EOM battery?
 
gehrbox said:
. Apples latest MB Pro's are maxed at 8 hours. What laptops are you seeing that get 10-12hours of continuous web surfing with the EOM battery?
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"OEM" perhaps? :) I've seen some laptops with extended battery times. heck, my lowly Acer netbook will go 8 hours without breaking a sweat.
 
Omg

Geez, why are people do darned CHEAP?!

Just buy the Wifi+3G version and the measly $30/month unlimited data plan. People in this country complain about the US supposedly going down the socialist path, and yet want free EVERYTHING.

So annoying. :mad:
 
FSUSem1noles said:
Sooo much for that idea even though many of us already had a feeling you wouldn't be able to tether, although I can't see how you wouldn't be able to tether if you can make your phone into a wi-fi hotspot?

http://www.9to5mac.com/jobs-swedish-iphone-43609634
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Good question. Does anyone know how much more battery life you get with those new iPhone battery adapters?

I see this as a huge jail breaking plan for the iPhone. I did it to try Google Voice and Tom Tom but soon discovered there were a lot of really cool things out there with one of them being teethering. Comes in handy when the inter net goes down, plus they have a 3G tricker program to trick any program to be seen as wifi. In my opinion, cable is very fast, we get from 1.6-3.0 MB per second. Still , I dont see tethering as being that harmful. First the ipad run the iPhone is so you won't be downloading torrents, in fact I see the usageas being the same as an iPhone. Mail, surfing etc and saving a few bucks until they roll out faster net speeds, (rumored to be between 30-60MB per sec as well as 4G and n chip in the iPhone.

Still I see the jb/ comunnity jumping all over the ipad which exsists togive users what Jobs doesn't want you to have, for example, downloading the latest TV episode vs paying for it on iTunes. I really see the hacking commuity as doing very well.And a boatload of new and exiting apps coming.
 
*LTD* said:
Why would you need to tether the iPad when there's a 3G model? :confused:

If there's a 3G option, why would you need to tether? Who the hell is gonna do that?

You want 3G, get the 3G version. That's why it's there.

Besides, thethering is a carrier issue.
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Detlev_73 said:
Geez, why are people do darned CHEAP?!

Just buy the Wifi+3G version and the measly $30/month unlimited data plan. People in this country complain about the US supposedly going down the socialist path, and yet want free EVERYTHING.

So annoying. :mad:
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My data plan allows for tethering, with no device restrictions.

Therefore, why should I , or anyone, with similar data plan be prevented from tethering specific devices, in this case, the iPad? After all, its only data usage for which has already been paid for and nothing else.

Anyway, I very much doubt Apple could prevent tethering with non iPhone cell phones - the iPad won't know the difference between a tethered WIFI point and regular.
 
gehrbox said:
I have an MSI U100 netbook with the largest battery available and it would at best get around 6 hours. My Dell laptop more like 3. Apples latest MB Pro's are maxed at 8 hours. What laptops are you seeing that get 10-12hours of continuous web surfing with the EOM battery?
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"The energy-efficient, slim, and stylish ASUS UL30Vt-X1 notebook redefines ultraportable notebooks with new power boosting features. Free yourself from power cords and start exploring with up to an amazing 11 hours of all-day battery life"

Theres a bunch of them out there just gotta look for ULV processors, that was first one popped into my head because I am thinking about getting the refresh of it with i7 processor sometime this month. By comparison the ipad essentially runs off of a phone processor so will get significantly more battery life than even these albeit the battery in the ipad will be smaller.
 
mccldwll said:
It's a PITA to carry around something bigger than a phone ALL the time. And "too much" overlap is extremely subjective.
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I'm not sure that the overlap is subjective. The iPad runs an almost identical OS to the iPhone/Touch. Other than a larger screen what will the iPad provide above and beyond the iPhone? I would argue the iPad is actually limiting compared to an iPhone because if you carry an iPad you still need a phone.

Detlev_73 said:
Geez, why are people do darned CHEAP?!

Just buy the Wifi+3G version and the measly $30/month unlimited data plan. People in this country complain about the US supposedly going down the socialist path, and yet want free EVERYTHING.

So annoying. :mad:
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This logic is bothersome. If $30/month is so measly why not start sending me $30/month? Heck, send everyone you know $30/month. See why it matters now? At the end of the day wealthy people don't waste money, even if it's only a $1. If I'm already giving AT&T $30/month for portable internet, most would consider it a waste to give them another $30/month for portable internet that is simply on another device.
 
Of course its not going to support tethering, no way in hell will AT&T allow that yet. They still don't allow tethering to a laptop and who knows how long its gonna take before they get around to offering that service.

I still call BS on the 10 hour battery. I don't care what he says, all companies inflate their battery estimates using ideal conditions. Sure, maybe its 10 hours looking at the home screen or a blank Safari page. The best we can hope for is maybe 5 hours or so for casual browsing. For playing games cut that number in half.

Don't believe me ? Ever get 9 hours of web browsing on Wifi with an iPhone 3Gs ? Of course not, but thats what the battery life suggests. http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html
 
/dev/toaster said:
Of course its not going to support tethering, no way in hell will AT&T allow that yet. They still don't allow tethering to a laptop and who knows how long its gonna take before they get around to offering that service.
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But there are more cell phone providers in the world than just AT&T. Others may not careless about what devices are tethered, as long as the consumer pays for the data plan.
 
/dev/toaster said:
Of course its not going to support tethering, no way in hell will AT&T allow that yet. They still don't allow tethering to a laptop and who knows how long its gonna take before they get around to offering that service.

I still call BS on the 10 hour battery. I don't care what he says, all companies inflate their battery estimates using ideal conditions. Sure, maybe its 10 hours looking at the home screen or a blank Safari page. The best we can hope for is maybe 5 hours or so for casual browsing. For playing games cut that number in half.

Don't believe me ? Ever get 9 hours of web browsing on Wifi with an iPhone 3Gs ? Of course not, but thats what the battery life suggests. http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html
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I fully expect it to last 10 hours of web surfing and playing games. Actually I will be happy with 8 hours, any less than that and I will be returning mine straight away. By comparison to the phone the ipad has a month of standby time so 10 hours of solid use seems conservative if anything.

But it's stupid to argue about this as no one can truly answer the question until we have them in our hands. For now all we have to go by is what was said at the press conference which is 10 hours of continuous use web surfing, games, movies etc...
 
Not sure why you need to be so rude about it - either way, I disagree. This isn't the first time I've heard from him.

I wrote to sjobs@apple.com in 2006 because of a non stop, recurring problem with a macbook pro I ordered. It was DOA, and Apple replaced it. The replacement was broken, and so was the replacement for the replacement. I wrote to Steve, explained how I was a loyal longtime customer and described how the experience I had was less than optimal. I then contrasted that to my job, and how if I failed to deliver exceptional experiences, I'd be let go - why shouldn't I let Apple go? He responded immediately, said it was being taken care of, and the next day I received a call from his assistant who sent me a brand new Macbook Pro without having to return the other one, and I was offered any iPod I wanted as well for free. When I got home later that night, I had an email from Daniel Marusich (one of the lead creatives at Apple) saying he was asked by "Mr. Jobs" to contact me and find out if I might be interested in a job. I spoke to him on the phone a week later, ran through my portfolio and experience and ultimately turned the job down for personal reasons.

I'm sure it's not out of the realm of possibility that there may be people that aren't Steve Jobs replying to emails but given that the majority of emails sent to that account are not replied to, I'd say it lends to the credibility. He's known to be a man of few words, and why wouldn't he be awake at 3am? His personality sure fits the bill.

Regardless, don't be such an ass. It's not going to get you anywhere.



mccldwll said:
Wake up kids. SJ is not responding to these "Dear Steve" emails (and certainly not at 3:00 a.m). When appropriate, some may, may eventually come to the attention of higher ups, but ceratinly not stuff like "tethering" which could be found on a FAQ page. Do you still write Santa, or just email him your Christmas lists?
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I don't believe its Jobs either.

Like any other personality or corporation for that matter they have people, many people monitoring their correspondence and respond accordingly.

The thought that Steve Jobs is walking around in Seattle or wherever with his iphone and or ipad and responding to these questions is beyond absurd it's just totally ridicules!
 
Detlev_73 said:
Geez, why are people do darned CHEAP?!

Just buy the Wifi+3G version and the measly $30/month unlimited data plan. People in this country complain about the US supposedly going down the socialist path, and yet want free EVERYTHING.

So annoying. :mad:
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wtf ?

would you like to pay for each network you connect to your home internet connection? Like say you have 5 computers so you have to pay 5 internet tariffs?

who the hell said free everything?
did you get your iphone for free?
do you have your 3g connection in your iphone for free?
will you get your ipad for free?

What on earth does tethering from iphone->ipad (which many operators in the world allow without paying extra besides your 3g connection) have to do with SOCIALISM ?
 
I had a similar experience.

I bought a white macbook the day it was announced and had so many problems with it that one day I contacted Steve Jobs.

Since I'm in Spain, he didn't reply but rather forwarded it to the guy in charge of the Euro division at Apple, who first emailed me than called me directly several times. First he tried to get it repaired properly at a apple reseller. Since I had further problems there, he said he would replace the macbook. What I didn't know was that a 15" macbook pro with top specs was waiting for me.

That was almost 2.5 years ago an the macbook pro still works wonderfully.

I couldn't be happier.


ninethirty said:
Not sure why you need to be so rude about it - either way, I disagree. This isn't the first time I've heard from him.

I wrote to sjobs@apple.com in 2006 because of a non stop, recurring problem with a macbook pro I ordered. It was DOA, and Apple replaced it. The replacement was broken, and so was the replacement for the replacement. I wrote to Steve, explained how I was a loyal longtime customer and described how the experience I had was less than optimal. I then contrasted that to my job, and how if I failed to deliver exceptional experiences, I'd be let go - why shouldn't I let Apple go? He responded immediately, said it was being taken care of, and the next day I received a call from his assistant who sent me a brand new Macbook Pro without having to return the other one, and I was offered any iPod I wanted as well for free. When I got home later that night, I had an email from Daniel Marusich (one of the lead creatives at Apple) saying he was asked by "Mr. Jobs" to contact me and find out if I might be interested in a job. I spoke to him on the phone a week later, ran through my portfolio and experience and ultimately turned the job down for personal reasons.

I'm sure it's not out of the realm of possibility that there may be people that aren't Steve Jobs replying to emails but given that the majority of emails sent to that account are not replied to, I'd say it lends to the credibility. He's known to be a man of few words, and why wouldn't he be awake at 3am? His personality sure fits the bill.

Regardless, don't be such an ass. It's not going to get you anywhere.
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Emailed Steve Jobs

I emailed Steve Jobs, and got a respsonse, I asked
"Hey Steve,

I have been reading about the iPad for quite some time, and I have noticed that when you open iWork, your documents are there,
But is it possible to attach documents from iWork to an email in the Mail app? And when you plug your iPad into the computer where do the documents show up, will there be a new documents tab in iTunes?"

He Replied,
"Yes and Yes
Sent from my iPhone"

Maybe a sign of things to come? :)
 
nlensander said:
I emailed Steve Jobs, and got a respsonse, I asked
"Hey Steve,

I have been reading about the iPad for quite some time, and I have noticed that when you open iWork, your documents are there,
But is it possible to attach documents from iWork to an email in the Mail app? And when you plug your iPad into the computer where do the documents show up, will there be a new documents tab in iTunes?"

He Replied,
"Yes and Yes
Sent from my iPhone"

Maybe a sign of things to come? :)
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pic or it didnt happen
 
eastcoastsurfer said:
I'm not sure that the overlap is subjective. The iPad runs an almost identical OS to the iPhone/Touch. Other than a larger screen what will the iPad provide above and beyond the iPhone? I would argue the iPad is actually limiting compared to an iPhone because if you carry an iPad you still need a phone.



This logic is bothersome. If $30/month is so measly why not start sending me $30/month? Heck, send everyone you know $30/month. See why it matters now? At the end of the day wealthy people don't waste money, even if it's only a $1. If I'm already giving AT&T $30/month for portable internet, most would consider it a waste to give them another $30/month for portable internet that is simply on another device.
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FAIL. This logic is bothersome to you, because you are thinking in socialist terms ;). You pay your local phone company for EACH line of service you have, i.e. each telephone number; Golden Corral doesn't let your entire family eat for the price of one adult, just because you say "It's all you can eat; this is my family with me, and since they're my family, I'm only going to pay for one person and share with them for the price of one; you pay for each Sirius/XM receiver: you don't 'share' one device's subscription to the Sirius/XM network among all Sirius/XM receivers in your car, home, etc; the list goes on and on. If you are 'wealthy', there is no such thing as 'wasting' money; you are glad to pay $200+ for a bottle of Dom Perignon, $5,000 for a first class roundtrip ticket on an airline to go from point A to point B. Use logic and think your posts through next time before rattling off emotional, gut responses. ;)

jmmo20 said:
wtf ?

would you like to pay for each network you connect to your home internet connection? Like say you have 5 computers so you have to pay 5 internet tariffs?

who the hell said free everything?
did you get your iphone for free?
do you have your 3g connection in your iphone for free?
will you get your ipad for free?

What on earth does tethering from iphone->ipad (which many operators in the world allow without paying extra besides your 3g connection) have to do with SOCIALISM ?
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You pay your internet provider for home service, for mobile 3G service, for smartphone service: you are not allowed the excuse of saying 'I already pay for internet service at home. I want mobile 3G service for my laptop for free since I already pay for home service.

I don't get anything for free: I pay my hard earned money to pay for goods and services, and I'm not a cheapskate. You get what you pay for. Oh yeah, and the iPhone and the iPad are TWO SEPARATE devices, that's why you pay for each one separately, and not try to mooch off of one to get service for the other.

This is all the connect the dots I'm doing today. Wanting stuff for free without having to pay for it is socialism, and that's just the bottom line.

"Cheapskates of the world, unite!"
 
bluehaze013 said:
I fully expect it to last 10 hours of web surfing and playing games. Actually I will be happy with 8 hours, any less than that and I will be returning mine straight away. By comparison to the phone the ipad has a month of standby time so 10 hours of solid use seems conservative if anything.

But it's stupid to argue about this as no one can truly answer the question until we have them in our hands. For now all we have to go by is what was said at the press conference which is 10 hours of continuous use web surfing, games, movies etc...
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Do you own any Apple laptops or an iPhone / iPod touch ? Do you get the same battery life as their spec pages suggest ? I seriously highly doubt it.
 
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