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iPad Jobs says NO to iPad tether....
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Why would you need to tether the iPad when there's a 3G model?
If there's a 3G option, why would you need to tether? Who the hell is gonna do that?
You want 3G, get the 3G version. That's why it's there.
Besides, thethering is a carrier issue.
Because I already pay for a 3G subscription for my iphone, and my provider allows me to tether for free to any device I want?
Why would I need to buy a more expensive ipad plus another internet subscription when I could do the same with the iphone I already own and use?
If you're going to use the ipad everyday outside your home and need intensive 3g usage, fair enough, get the 3g and pay for a 3g service. But for sporadic use? Come on...
Why would you need to tether the iPad when there's a 3G model?
If there's a 3G option, why would you need to tether? Who the hell is gonna do that?
You want 3G, get the 3G version. That's why it's there.
Besides, thethering is a carrier issue.
You need help.
If you think your carrier will allow tethering on a wifi handheld device for which there is already a 3G model, you've got another thing coming.
I still don't understand this at all. It seems like every thread here has somebody spewing nonsense about "control." A guy sent Jobs an email asking if a particular feature was present in the device; Jobs said no. It's a long leap from "The feature you asked for is not implemented" to "Apple wants to control your life."
Apple makes products, for crying out loud. Sometimes those products are released without features people want (like apps on the iPhone) because Apple hasn't finished implementing those features yet. Other times, the feature in question is so low down on the priority list that it never gets implemented at all.
It's not about control. It's about the fact that time and effort are limited, and Apple chooses which things to work on for business reasons. If you want feature X and can get it in another product, buy the other product! It's really not that big a deal.
Why would you need to tether the iPad when there's a 3G model?
If there's a 3G option, why would you need to tether? Who the hell is gonna do that?
You want 3G, get the 3G version. That's why it's there.
Besides, thethering is a carrier issue.
If you could "tether" the 3G version to your iPhone/iPhone plan for free or reduced cost, that would be attractive. As far as why it's there, I'd say it's largely there for people presently serviced by other carriers--they can have a mobile iPad without switching carriers.
There will likely be ways that carriers will allow you to "work in" the iPad to your current plan, but not by piggybacking off your current plan and sucking data via tethering. It's a nice (clever) thing to do, but as far as the carrier is concerned, it's "cheating." You're trying to have it both ways.
A lot of carriers offer pre-paid plans and option to buy iPhone without contract, so how I use my data plan is my own business and carriers nor Apple have no way to dertermine how much devices I use. I'm not going to by data plan for every 3G capable device if I can tether wifi model. I'm currently using iPhone as my way into internet on my iMac. And by the end of the day it's up to consumer and carriers. What Apple is doing in the middle? So maybe you should rub a few brain cells together and start seeking medical attention, because to a normal person you sound like a mad man.
And welcome to ignore list, troll.
3G tether
I have been tethering my Mac laptops, ever since they put in bluetooth (even when it was still iBook and 2G). It's not exactly a new idea! I currently use a small Sony W595, as a 3G portal with my MacBook pro when out of range of my normal WiFi haunts and this works great... my phone Data provider are happy - I would never have bought a Data contract if I could't tether!
I think both for iPhone and IPad, Apples partnerships with with 3G providers necessitate a lockdown! but oh boy, what a pile of *****! Not to be able to tether an iPad! the problem will be that people will find their own way around it.... how much better to just allow people to do what they want!
I have been tethering my Mac laptops, ever since they put in bluetooth (even when it was still iBook and 2G). It's not exactly a new idea! I currently use a small Sony W595, as a 3G portal with my MacBook pro when out of range of my normal WiFi haunts and this works great... my phone Data provider are happy - I would never have bought a Data contract if I could't tether!
I think both for iPhone and IPad, Apples partnerships with with 3G providers necessitate a lockdown! but oh boy, what a pile of *****! Not to be able to tether an iPad! the problem will be that people will find their own way around it.... how much better to just allow people to do what they want!
So. Any reason why T wouldn't allow tethering the iPad to the iPhone for same $ rate/terms as 3G model? How about 50% or 70% discount since only one could be used at a time? How about for free if also subject iPhone to data limitations (transition to "pay for use" system)? It could be an incentive for iPad buyers to switch to or remain with T. The bottom line is that if T crunches the numbers and it looks good, they easily could do it. And it takes care of the "we will allow tethering later this year" complaints.
You just answered your own question.
What Apple is doing in the middle?
Selling the iPad and beholden to carriers.
This is 2010, the age of exploding data use. A lot of US carriers are ill-prepared for it, or fear what's coming down the road. If European carriers are prepared, that's great. In any case, given US carriers' current difficulties with managing data usage, it's certainly up to them how you use your data plan. Hopefully where you are it's all sweetness and light.
Just being a realist here.
So? The 3G version is different in that one feature only. It would be useful to all those people who already have an iPhone and would rather use that subscription rather than pay another £X/month for another 3G data plan on their unlocked, unsubsidised device.
If it's not there explicitly (rather than because Apple didn't think of it or implement it yet), then it seems like a carrier concession more than anything.
Don't make deals with me, make them with your carrier. Tethering is already a touchy issue with them in the first place.
Ummm
Oddly when I legally tether my iPhone, in Canada, I most often use BlueTooth networking.
Since I know Apple supports Bluetooth networking your argument is deeply flawed.
Plus I have a rare legal copy of NetShare on my iPhone - so I can also connect to my phone's WiFi network and suff that way.
Oddly when I legally tether my iPhone, in Canada, I most often use BlueTooth networking.
Since I know Apple supports Bluetooth networking your argument is deeply flawed.
Plus I have a rare legal copy of NetShare on my iPhone - so I can also connect to my phone's WiFi network and suff that way.
I'm not talking about any deal with you or carrier. I'm an investor and that's my perspective. Think about it. $15/30 month for data is an incredible deal. T's not making much $ there compared to the smartphone plans. Aapl drove that deal. Part of the story is missing. Allowing some form of tethering helps T on the iPhone plan side of the equation. T wouldn't do it for the consumer. It would do it for its bottom line.
Why should a carrier care what form factor I'm using to surf the net. I can legally tether my laptop ... why not an iPad? WTF difference does it make the carrier?
Actually, here it is straight from the horse's mouth.
After the backlash Amazon felt for removing certain books from Kindles, I highly doubt Apple would do the same.
Is that you Steve (the "Other" Steve, the fat and sweaty one)? The slight tinge of bitterness at the end kinda gave you away.
If you think that my carrier can somehow limit or even know how I'm using my phone and my subscription, you are wrong.
Don't know about the iPhone, but I sure as hell can "tether" it to my Nokia over WiFi for absolutely no additional cost. And so can you, obviously. Just get Joikuspot or something similar, I'm pretty sure that there's something like that for the iPhone as well.
Ok,
1) Why WOULDN'T it work if the iPhone's tethering is by acting as a Wifi hotspot? As far as the pad knows it's just a Wifi signal... Of course, that means we gotta wait on AT&T to get their heads out of their BUTTS and start ALLOWING tethering! "Support in October"... I guess they meant Oct 2010??? Or does the iPhone tethering happen via Bluetooth?
2) Realize that if you buy the Wifi only model, you don't get GPS either... Full GPS is only on the 3G models, so if you want/need GPS capability, you better plan to pony up for the 3G. (See the Spec sheet on apple's site if you don't believe me.)
3) If you REALLY want to go Wifi only, and/or not be tied to AT&T - just get a Verizon MiFi and carry that around and have the pad connect through it.
Currently I'm using a Macbook with a Sierra Wireless AT&T 3G dongle, and my iPhone. I was HOPING I could carry the Macbook less and just get the iPad, and was HOPEFUL I wouldn't need the 3G model (the 3G signal in my office building is HORRIBLE! and management doesn't want to spring the $100/mo the building wants for us to put a repeater antenna on the roof). So I'm probably going to go the MiFi route and ditch my AT&T 3G Dongle when the contract expires in July. (Verizon coverage is MUCH better in my office building.)
1) Why WOULDN'T it work if the iPhone's tethering is by acting as a Wifi hotspot? As far as the pad knows it's just a Wifi signal... Of course, that means we gotta wait on AT&T to get their heads out of their BUTTS and start ALLOWING tethering! "Support in October"... I guess they meant Oct 2010??? Or does the iPhone tethering happen via Bluetooth?
2) Realize that if you buy the Wifi only model, you don't get GPS either... Full GPS is only on the 3G models, so if you want/need GPS capability, you better plan to pony up for the 3G. (See the Spec sheet on apple's site if you don't believe me.)
3) If you REALLY want to go Wifi only, and/or not be tied to AT&T - just get a Verizon MiFi and carry that around and have the pad connect through it.
Currently I'm using a Macbook with a Sierra Wireless AT&T 3G dongle, and my iPhone. I was HOPING I could carry the Macbook less and just get the iPad, and was HOPEFUL I wouldn't need the 3G model (the 3G signal in my office building is HORRIBLE! and management doesn't want to spring the $100/mo the building wants for us to put a repeater antenna on the roof). So I'm probably going to go the MiFi route and ditch my AT&T 3G Dongle when the contract expires in July. (Verizon coverage is MUCH better in my office building.)