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I realise the whiners and self appointed victims just want to feel sorry for themselves but maybe this phenomenon doesn't actually matter. After all what does 2 bars mean in terms of signal strength on a Nokia phone anyway? And how does that compare to an iPhone?

My IP4 drops 2 bars when held in the left hand but it makes calls BETTER than the 3G it replaces. Don't yet know about data performance.

It seems most people would prefer to whine rather than acquaint themselves with informed opinion but for the minority this http://www.antennasys.com/antennasys-blog/2010/6/24/apple-iphone-4-antennas.html is a refreshing note of sanity.

So because you are dropping 2 bars then everyone else must be? How about the people that go from 5 bars to "no signal"?? Perhaps you should do your research before you insult people.
 
Wow - that's a lot of name calling. And so productive in furthering the conversation. Let me ask you - how does discussing this issue affect what kind of friendships we develop in our lives. How are they related?

Oh yeah - and while you're responding to that - maybe you can explain exactly how any of us are "bigots." You might want to look that one up. Or perhaps you ran out of other names to call people in this thread and threw one randomly in there to see if anyone was paying attention.
He was reacting to the people posting in here about how those of us who are experiencing this problem who were calling us morons and whiners. He was calling the name-callers bigots (I don't really get the choice of words, though).
 
I tried the iPhone 4G in my local Apple shop today where due to the relatively small security cable, you can hold it and use it as you normally would. Untouched the device had 4-5 bars of 3G coverage (Orange). I picked it up, and held the device exactly as I do my 3GS, and had a bit play with it. Within a few seconds, the 4 had switched to a GPRS connection, and then a few seconds later again was down to searching/no service. I feel this is a flaw of unparralleled magnitude, and Apple need to take care of it urgently.
 
I'm guessing if your iPhone 4 was losing complete signal, ... People have phones that lose complete service. That isn't just whining.
The only true test is comparing the actual rate of failure against other handsets on the same network in the same location, not self reported and unverified anecdotes.

Maybe in fact the other handsets are overstating their signal strength and that Apple is simply guilty of being honest. As I said, my phone drops a couple of bars and, for calls, it doesn't seem to matter.
 
You're an absolute jackass. There's a difference between a glitch that makes it necessary for the phone to reboot every day (like with 3.0) and a defect or design flaw that prevents many from being able to use the phone at all to make calls.

"Stop complaining that your phone can't make calls. People love to whine about the smallest things." Jerkoff. :rolleyes:

Resorting to ad hominem attacks just proves the immaturity of the vast majority of those in this thread complaining about this issue. There are probably a small amount, including the OP, who have legitimate concerns. The rest are trolling or whining as it fills them with a sense of purpose.

Best of luck with your broken phone.
 
So because you are dropping 2 bars then everyone else must be? How about the people that go from 5 bars to "no signal"?? Perhaps you should do your research before you insult people.
There is no evidence these people are not trolls. I'll believe evidence not anecdotes.
 
Resorting to ad hominem attacks just proves the immaturity of the vast majority of those in this thread complaining about this issue. There are probably a small amount, including the OP, who have legitimate concerns. The rest are trolling or whining as it fills them with a sense of purpose.

Best of luck with your broken phone.

I think you did your part to attract that immaturity.
 
Whoever started this BS rumor deserves an award from Google. Who ever thought that so much crap could be spread from one fandroid troll.

There is no issue here, absolutely none. Your "bars going down" when you hold the phone is in your head. I have been talking all day and browsing all day, no sign of any problems.

Guess what, signal strength tends to go up and down. I'm sure if you spend enough time playing around you can convince yourself that the signal strength is related to combing your hair or biting your nails. Doesn't make it a fact though.

My offer stands to trade my 3GS for any iPhone 4... no takers because 90% of the people reporting problems are trolls, and the other 10% are chasing windmills.

Its okay to come out of your caves fanboys. Apple has acknowledged the fact and who cares if you guys dont?
 
There is no evidence these people are not trolls. I'll believe evidence not anecdotes.

How do you explain all the Youtube videos? Or how about all the articles from major news corporations? Are they trolls as well? Or how about the people stating they called Apple Care and Apple is now admitting it's an issue? Just because you don't have the problem doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
 
Resorting to ad hominem attacks just proves the immaturity of the vast majority of those in this thread complaining about this issue. There are probably a small amount, including the OP, who have legitimate concerns. The rest are trolling or whining as it fills them with a sense of purpose.

Best of luck with your broken phone.
No, it only proves my immaturity. But, that's irrelevant to the criticism of the content of your post (which you failed to address). Your blind defense of Apple is nauseating. I just hope you would defend friends and family with as much vigor as you do for a corporate logo.
 
guys I have this issue too... I got the phone from att should they fix it or should I go to apple care?
 
How am I naive if I'm saying the same thing. I don't think sjobs@apple.com is personal in the slightest. And as that address has been widely proliferated on the web in news stories, etc - I hardly call it private. I have several personal and a few business email addresses. Not sure why you think I'm naive for my comment. Whatever.

By personal I mean speaking/writing as a person, not a head of a company. An identity of a person on the internet, which never meant to be a voice of a company, yet wanted to be recognized as who he is. Personal does not equal private.

Point is - that email address has been known to anyone who had any interest in sending a communication - whether it's praise or criticism. There was no "invasion" of his privacy there.
That's the thing. People saw it in an ad or a presentation and assumed they can use it as the source for legal and official company statements. Yet it can only be used to talk to Steve, the Jobs -- not Steve, the CEO of Apple. He doesn't even sign his messages with anything of that sort.

But that's just my understanding. I could be wrong.

We have a local design studio (which is the most famous, expensive and credible in our country), CEO of which has his own blog (by coincidence, one of the most visited in our internet zone) and he can say oh such vulgar, horrible and discrediting things on his blog, but no one even thinks to assume his words somehow reflect the position or points of view of his company. Because his personal social life on the internet is his personal and not the company's. And I think it's how it should be. One has the right to be open in society, whoever he is and what his or her job is.
 
Of course it didn't come from Steve! The CEO of a $240 billion company wouldn't have an e-mail address guessable by anyone, nor would he have the time to reply to hundreds of customers' e-mails. Anyone who believes that must be delusional. Almost certainly the reply came from one of his PAs or someone paid to do just that, which makes the reply you got from Steve's proxy as good as if it came from the man himself.

Here's what I think is going on:

Actually, I do believe Steve himself answered the 1st round of emails (He acknowledged that he has been emailing personally to Mossberg at D8). The short, arrogant, and condescending style sounds like Jobs.

Somewhere down the line, someone from the board or PR caught wind of his messages and "helped" him draft a slightly more thought out replies (which were still ********, but at least they didn't appear to be knee jerk).. As a matter of fact, Apple's "Official" reply seems to mirror "Steve's" 2nd round of emails....
 
I just called Apple Support to let them know I am having these issues and it is affecting my usage. I swore by the 2G and 3GS - never had any problems. But I simply cannot reliably use the 4 as a telephone. After 15 mins on hold, the service rep was very friendly, said she would see what she can do. She put me on hold for another 5 mins, then hung up on me. Le Sigh.... I really am trying to make this work. :(:apple:
 
You posted 10 articles that all say the same thing - "People claim that touching their iPhone 4 causes signal degradation". I don't need the Times or the Journal to tell me what I read on MacRumors over a day ago.

Why don't you take my challenge of a scientific test for signal strength? Or would you rather chase windmills all day?

Your "challenge" has been taken over thousands of youtube videos already.


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I can't believe that is their response. Someone tell me this is a bad joke.


lol..hope so. Though it explains why jobs was unable to demo most the features at Keynote...Though that was wifi related methinx :rolleyes: but either way he was holding it wrong (according to the email)
 
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