Jobs seemed like a miserable old man yesterday

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by normandy7, Jun 8, 2010.

  1. normandy7 macrumors member

    Jun 18, 2009
    with all the "turn off your wifi crap." No exactly a cool image.
  2. goobot macrumors 603


    Jun 26, 2009
    long island NY
    What did u want him to do? Plus he made some good jokes and I find it funny when he memorized the iad game
  3. Maaz macrumors 6502a

    Mar 13, 2010
  4. notblackmac macrumors regular


    Jan 24, 2010
    How would you feel to be embarrassed in front of the world while unveiling your "magical" product? haha
  5. frunkis54 macrumors 65816


    Apr 2, 2009
    i thought he handled it well....
  6. dscuber9000 macrumors 6502a

    Sep 16, 2007
    Indiana, US
    Well, he's trying to show off these cool new things and it's being hindered because some dip**** blogger from some site no one cares about wants to update their site with 20 pictures per minute. And when he asks politely, the majority just laugh uncomfortably at him.

    So yeah, Jobs had a good reason to get a little noticeably angry.
  7. CrAkD macrumors 68040


    Feb 15, 2010
    Boston, MA
    right? I went in to work this morning and my boss is totally not tech savvy all she watches is the news. she knows Im a huge apple fan so the first thing she says to me was "ohhh he is human I saw they had a mishap in the demo yesterday" I just shook my head haha. that would happen anywhere there is 600 wifi networks in one room haha. So yes I think he handled it fine (i just watched the video) But I gotta admit I was a little worried yesterday when they said they were turning off the wifi haha. thank god engadget switched to 3g.
  8. Mademan12321 macrumors 6502

    Jun 29, 2009
    Well honestly what could he do. You have over 5000 people there doing everything from blogging, video and audio streaming, and god knows how many IM's and texts. As soon as everyone stopped, it started to work.
  9. Capt Underpants macrumors 68030

    Capt Underpants

    Jul 23, 2003
    Austin, Texas
    Seems like Apple could have set up a wifi network that only Steve's iPhone had the password to.

    Lesson learned.
  10. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere


    Apr 16, 2008
    At the iPhone hacks section.
    Very true.
    I'm surprised they didn't.
  11. Apple-NoEscape macrumors 6502

    Mar 25, 2010
    United Kingdom
    Too be honest I prefer when slight mishaps like this happens. Makes it all seem more down to earth and on our level. More human maybe.
    Yeah I don't really know how to put it into words.
    Same with any big product presentation, it has happened to all the best, look at companies like microsoft.
  12. doubleatheman macrumors 6502a


    May 27, 2009
    I'm sure they did..... It just didn't have a chance.

    Buy with ~500 other wi-fi devices trying to gulp up those 11 channels... theres nothing left, they have squeezed out all of the data the air can transfer (for wi-fi atleast)

    I am surprised Apple doesn't make it so their special demo iPhones cant suck up internet from the dock connector.
  13. monksealpup macrumors regular

    Jun 12, 2009
    Honolulu, HI, USA
    It has nothing to do with this. It has everything to do with TONS of wireless packets being in-flight on the limited 2.4GHz spectrum (new iPhone doesn't use the 5GHz range; what do you want to bet this is a new engineering priority for the next one?). If your packets are garbled by packets that arrive at the antenna at the same time, then it's lost. That's why he wanted everyone to a) stop using their WiFi (way fewer packets) and b) turn off the MiFi points entirely (gets rid of the beacon packets as well).

    The engineers did an outstanding job solving this problem on the fly.
  14. Capt Underpants macrumors 68030

    Capt Underpants

    Jul 23, 2003
    Austin, Texas
    Just goes to show how little I know about this. The solution made sense in my brain, at least...
  15. DrCheese macrumors member

    Mar 25, 2009
    erm, they did. But there's only a limited amount of spectrum set aside for wifi transmission, so 570 odd base stations that have no knowledge of each other competing for such a tiny amount of spectrum would have created an insane amount of interference.

    I am confused tho why they don't just install a managed wifi system for the public guests to use at these events with a massive internet connection attached to it. Visitors could just connect to that instead of carting around portable mifi stations. A managed system has access points that would be aware of each other and able to manage the interference more efficiently.
  16. colourtheatre macrumors regular

    Jan 28, 2010
    i like the comment he made about how technology has moved so much that there's so many wifi hotspots in that room alone. its amazing.
  17. kdarling macrumors demi-god


    Jun 9, 2007
    First university coding class = 47 years ago
    I thought he handled it pretty well. He seemed in a good mood.

    I'd like to see them stop using WiFi all the time though.

    C'mon, do the demos using a 3G network like the rest of us common folk. Dammit Jim, it's supposed to be a breakthrough internet device ... err... phone!
  18. elephunkman macrumors 65816

    Mar 27, 2010
    Looked liked an accurate representation of AT&T's network haha
  19. F123D macrumors 68040


    Sep 16, 2008
    Del Mar, CA
    I thought the presentation went well considering the issues.

    The Verizon comment was priceless though.
  20. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere


    Apr 16, 2008
    At the iPhone hacks section.
    Yes but it's an international phone. How it would perform in the US doesn't tell much to someone in Germany or the UK for example.
    Apple doesn't control the network it's on.
  21. jedispongee macrumors newbie

    Mar 23, 2009
    I imagine he was a bit worried about the wifi because of the FaceTime demo.
  22. DylanLikesPorn macrumors 6502


    May 20, 2010
    That's what Steve Jobs deserves for making the iPhone without ethernet port.
  23. saccento macrumors 6502a


    Jun 30, 2008
    New Jersey
  24. Avatar74 macrumors 65816


    Feb 5, 2007
    That's not the problem. It's not like the building has 500 different trunk circuits going out to the Local Exchange Carrier. And it's not like he was visiting a website hosted somewhere on that local area network. It was the NY Times. There's a limited amount of bandwidth going into and coming out of that building, and thus always a potential bottleneck to the internet if the consumption at that endpoint exceeds the available bandwidth of the T1, DS1, DS3, OC-3 or whatever circuits come out of Moscone West.
  25. ClassicII macrumors 6502


    Sep 21, 2009
    Chicago, IL
    To be honest I thought he had some good humor through out the keynote.

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