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Discussion in 'iPhone' started by normandy7, Jun 8, 2010.
with all the "turn off your wifi crap." No exactly a cool image.
What did u want him to do? Plus he made some good jokes and I find it funny when he memorized the iad game
How would you feel to be embarrassed in front of the world while unveiling your "magical" product? haha
i thought he handled it well....
Well, he's trying to show off these cool new things and it's being hindered because some dip**** blogger from some site no one cares about wants to update their site with 20 pictures per minute. And when he asks politely, the majority just laugh uncomfortably at him.
So yeah, Jobs had a good reason to get a little noticeably angry.
right? I went in to work this morning and my boss is totally not tech savvy all she watches is the news. she knows Im a huge apple fan so the first thing she says to me was "ohhh he is human I saw they had a mishap in the demo yesterday" I just shook my head haha. that would happen anywhere there is 600 wifi networks in one room haha. So yes I think he handled it fine (i just watched the video) But I gotta admit I was a little worried yesterday when they said they were turning off the wifi haha. thank god engadget switched to 3g.
Well honestly what could he do. You have over 5000 people there doing everything from blogging, video and audio streaming, and god knows how many IM's and texts. As soon as everyone stopped, it started to work.
Seems like Apple could have set up a wifi network that only Steve's iPhone had the password to.
I'm surprised they didn't.
Too be honest I prefer when slight mishaps like this happens. Makes it all seem more down to earth and on our level. More human maybe.
Yeah I don't really know how to put it into words.
Same with any big product presentation, it has happened to all the best, look at companies like microsoft.
I'm sure they did..... It just didn't have a chance.
Buy with ~500 other wi-fi devices trying to gulp up those 11 channels... theres nothing left, they have squeezed out all of the data the air can transfer (for wi-fi atleast)
I am surprised Apple doesn't make it so their special demo iPhones cant suck up internet from the dock connector.
It has nothing to do with this. It has everything to do with TONS of wireless packets being in-flight on the limited 2.4GHz spectrum (new iPhone doesn't use the 5GHz range; what do you want to bet this is a new engineering priority for the next one?). If your packets are garbled by packets that arrive at the antenna at the same time, then it's lost. That's why he wanted everyone to a) stop using their WiFi (way fewer packets) and b) turn off the MiFi points entirely (gets rid of the beacon packets as well).
The engineers did an outstanding job solving this problem on the fly.
Just goes to show how little I know about this. The solution made sense in my brain, at least...
erm, they did. But there's only a limited amount of spectrum set aside for wifi transmission, so 570 odd base stations that have no knowledge of each other competing for such a tiny amount of spectrum would have created an insane amount of interference.
I am confused tho why they don't just install a managed wifi system for the public guests to use at these events with a massive internet connection attached to it. Visitors could just connect to that instead of carting around portable mifi stations. A managed system has access points that would be aware of each other and able to manage the interference more efficiently.
i like the comment he made about how technology has moved so much that there's so many wifi hotspots in that room alone. its amazing.
I thought he handled it pretty well. He seemed in a good mood.
I'd like to see them stop using WiFi all the time though.
C'mon, do the demos using a 3G network like the rest of us common folk. Dammit Jim, it's supposed to be a breakthrough internet device ... err... phone!
Looked liked an accurate representation of AT&T's network haha
I thought the presentation went well considering the issues.
The Verizon comment was priceless though.
Yes but it's an international phone. How it would perform in the US doesn't tell much to someone in Germany or the UK for example.
Apple doesn't control the network it's on.
I imagine he was a bit worried about the wifi because of the FaceTime demo.
That's what Steve Jobs deserves for making the iPhone without ethernet port.
i thought it was hilarious.
That's not the problem. It's not like the building has 500 different trunk circuits going out to the Local Exchange Carrier. And it's not like he was visiting a website hosted somewhere on that local area network. It was the NY Times. There's a limited amount of bandwidth going into and coming out of that building, and thus always a potential bottleneck to the internet if the consumption at that endpoint exceeds the available bandwidth of the T1, DS1, DS3, OC-3 or whatever circuits come out of Moscone West.
To be honest I thought he had some good humor through out the keynote.