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Reading WAY too much into this!

Calm down, folks!

Jobs' WWDC keynote is a common occurence. We already know he will be debuting Panther this year just like he debuted Jaguar at WWDC last year ... and we also know that he had no problem filling the entire presentation last year with Jagwirean goodness, so this gives us no reason to expect anything more than a thorough demonstration of Panther.

But, yes, this is a big event, in a larger-than-ever setting (Moscone/SF instead of San Jose), and had Jobs not been giving a keynote we would have had reason to doubt previous rumors. But the only thing "new" here is that nothing has changed. Jobs is giving the keynote at WWDC, just as we had presumed many months ago. The press blurb about WWDC mentions developers getting their hands on new technologies and talking with the developers of said technologies, just like it did for last year's WWDC (and, I presume, for previous WWDC's as well? Isn't that the whole point of WWDC?) Even the date for the keynote has been "known" (ie, assumed) for quite some time.

What is the news here? Nothing.

So, this doesn't affect, one way or the other, the likeihood of the 970-based tablet Mac/PDA with international CDMA/GSM cell phone connectivity and realtime 30fps video streaming from the most remote areas of Zimbabwe. That's still obviously going to be announced.
 
Re: Re: Jobs to Give WWDC Keynote

Originally posted by Mr. MacPhisto
Should be a good week. New Harry Potter on Saturday, Steve talking on Monday, and ordering a new 970 PM on Tuesday - which is what some sources have claimed.

What? You'll wait till tuesday to order? What's wrong with Monday morning right after the store comes back up?
 
I hope he will announce the 970, there will be a huge let down if there is no new proc.

I guess now we will have to see the stupid Photoshop demos at every keynote again. Ahh, the price we must pay.
 
970 Powered iWalk!!

<jest>Versus a P4 3Ghz Tablet PC running Photoshop whilst walking across stage. Midway through the "walkthrough" the plug on the iWalk comes out, it continues to run flawlessly trouncing the tablet PC in the Photoshop test based on a PC based benchmark for Photoshop (if there is such a thing, i thought the only thing PCs benchmarked on was FPS in Quake III with everything turned up! 8P )

"Oh, and one more thing..."

This baby runs on AA batteries!

</jest>

<matrix>How deep down the rabbit whole does the reality distortion field go? Jobs is running his own Matrix!! We've all been preprogrammed to babble about it and then complain about it when it doesn't live up to what we wanted. Cause if it did, we wouldn't believe it to be true, whole crops would be lost...
</matrix>

:rolleyes:
 
I hope so. At least we get to see Panther for sure...

Let's look at the facts:

1. Apple will be previewing Panther
2. Steve-the-man is doing the keynote
3. They're going to be using the Moscone center this time


The PowerMac Extreme fits in there very well. Btw, that's what I'm calling it. The G- names have a slow karma attached to them. :cool:

I wonder if Apple will call it the PowerMac Extreme... probably not. :rolleyes:
 
I just hope....

I just hope that this doesn't become a huge disappointment.

Apple, and specifically, Jobs have said they don't want everyone to assume that MWs are the only time hardware is announced, and they have done a pretty good job of releasing things at other times, thus reducing the 'don't buy anything until MW' attitude.

I just hope we don't get all worked up for WWDC, have them release nothing other than demo the new OS, and then a week and a half later, after we've all been upset and said stupid things, have them release new hardware.

Ok, that probably made no sense, but oh well.
 
Re: I just hope....

Originally posted by mcrain
I just hope that this doesn't become a huge disappointment.

Apple, and specifically, Jobs have said they don't want everyone to assume that MWs are the only time hardware is announced, and they have done a pretty good job of releasing things at other times, thus reducing the 'don't buy anything until MW' attitude.

I just hope we don't get all worked up for WWDC, have them release nothing other than demo the new OS, and then a week and a half later, after we've all been upset and said stupid things, have them release new hardware.

Ok, that probably made no sense, but oh well.


Actually that did make sense. I can see everyone making a big stink if it doesn't happen. Either way it would be good. If Apple releases the 970 at WWDC then I don't have to read any complaints.

On the other hand, if it isn't released maybe it'll teach all of you a lesson:

Don't expect anything when your info is based on rumors.
 
Re: I hope so. At least we get to see Panther for sure...

Originally posted by Xcyridus

I wonder if Apple will call it the PowerMac Extreme... probably not. :rolleyes:

I sure hope not. Adding the word Extreme is *so* 1999!

From...
Power Mac
to
Power Mac Exterme?
to
Super Power Mac Extreme?
to
Super Power Mac Extreme To The Max?

Let's hope it's just "The New Power Mac."

(I'm not getting my hopes up that they'll be for sale prior to MWSF2004).
 
Re: Re: I hope so. At least we get to see Panther for sure...

Originally posted by Flowbee
I sure hope not. Adding the word Extreme is *so* 1999!

From...
Power Mac
to
Power Mac Exterme?
to
Super Power Mac Extreme?
to
Super Power Mac Extreme To The Max?

Let's hope it's just "The New Power Mac."

(I'm not getting my hopes up that they'll be for sale prior to MWSF2004).

Probably The New PowerMac <something here>.
 
About a month ago, I remember reading some official statement that Steve Jobs was not going to do a keynote presentation at the show. So this is a change for what was scheduled for WWDC.

I can't remember where i read it for the life of me, it might have been at the apple site, under news. Anyway i'll go check around.
 
i just thought about the apple developers who may read sometime the rumor sites. if they really made a powermac 970 that is faster than all other desktops they would be excited to tell us all the truth when the time has come.
they know what value their developed product has and reading thousands of speculations everyday should make them angry on one hand but also very excited on the other hand because there may be things that are true and things that are wrong. i think they just can't wait to put all in the right light and share their excitement of the product with all others.
it's like a music group who releases a new album to share their very personal things with other people.

i really can imagine how they feel now because they put (if they made the powermac 970) thousands of ours in their product and now it is time to present it and see the reaction. this moment of truth is one of the most exciting moment someone creative can have.

so all the pain and hard work during a long time is backvalued through a small moment...like the applause for an actor...

as our visual design prof said: as an artist you always give much more than what you receive but you feel like confirmed.
 
Re: Re: Re: I hope so. At least we get to see Panther for sure...

Originally posted by Xcyridus
Probably The New PowerMac <something here>.

The New PowerMac Royal Extreme Deluxe TXS? !!! :D
 
I have to agree with what some people have said.
I hope the 970 mac is announced in june, but if it is not, don't be too suprised or dissapointed. I can see it now... the threads littered with hundreds of messages (probably mostly from newbies, but some older members too) saying things like "I expected to have a 970 PM announced. Thats it, I am buying a dell! Apples are just WAY too slow!!!" I can see it now.
Be hopeful, but don't get your hopes up too much. Then you will be pleasantly suprised at whatever happens.

I can personally say that I will be really glad if they announce the 970PM, not on its own merits (i can't afford a PM right now), but because it will free up the iMac, eMac, and iBook to use faster G3s and G4s. For the time being, that would be great for me. A 1.25 mhz iBook or eMac, or even a 1.42 mhz iMac would be great.
 
Re: Re: Jobs to Give WWDC Keynote

Originally posted by Mr. MacPhisto
That would fit with what I know about the 970, because it began production not long after the beginning of the year.

What is your source? Has there been any evidence that even the samples (claimed by IBM to be shipping second quarter) are out in the wild?
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: I hope so. At least we get to see Panther for sure...

Originally posted by Stike
The New PowerMac Royal Extreme Deluxe TXS? !!! :D

Actually Apple will be bought my Capcom, and it will be called Super PowerMac Turbo Alpha IV Championship Edition.
 
Does anyone really think SJ would not want to be in a keynote when he announces his new processor? You can tell that he loves his spotlight, why would he ever miss the chance to here all the cheering and screaming his name when he unveils the PM 970?

Also anyone think that this will be streamed during the presentation? or are we going to get the samething we got for the iTunes, and get it streamed afterwards?

I actually kinda preferred the latter.
 
Re: Re: Re: I hope so. At least we get to see Panther for sure...

Originally posted by Xcyridus
Probably The New PowerMac <something here>.



X4

"X" is trendy and better than "G" (although of course "Y" or "Z" would be even better ... but then you get into similarities with things like old "Z28" cars and such ...) "P" would indicate the Power lineage and still be better than "G", but some piddly chip maker has already absconded the "P4" moniker. Any letter before "M" is just too close to "G". Yeah, "X" is the best fit!

"4" to indicate that this is based on the 4th generation PPC (IBM's fourth generation, not Motos), and to keep us in line so that the 980 can be "X5", etc, and to make more sense when "X5" sits next to the XServe Power5 in the Apple lineup ...

The New PowerMac X4.
 
Apple's Press Release

For those people who are excited by the following statement in Apple's PR:

"expanded labs with the latest Mac systems where developers can port and test their code and get technical assistance from the Apple engineers directly responsible for the technologies;"

good news, no statement similar to this was in Apple's press releases for WWDC for the past 3 YEARS!! The only time the talked about hardware or converting platforms or the like was at WWDC 2000 - when they were discussing optimization for AltiVec (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2000/march/21wwdc.html)

Also, here's another quote from today's Press Release:

"comprehensive sessions providing a roadmap and technical information on Apple Developer Tools, Application Frameworks, Core OS, Hardware, Graphics and Imaging;..."

notice the words 'roadmap' and 'hardware', hmmm :)

I'm liking this more and more!
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: I hope so. At least we get to see Panther for sure...

Originally posted by jettredmont
The New PowerMac X4.

ew. too close to x86.

i'm not expecting much from WWDC. Steve has done the keynote there before. what about the price of the conference? is that $1500 or so standard fare?
 
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