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~Shard~ said:
No surprises anymore? 😕 So I assume you saw the iPod nano coming a mile away, as well as the seriously-updated iMac shortly thereafter? 🙄 😛 😀

Speculating is fun, it gets the creative juices flowing, and gives members the chance to converse about possibilities and alternatives they may never have thought of - it's the benefit of being in a think-tank structure! And then when Apple surprises us with something we weren't really expecting, that makes it even better! 😉 🙂

Technology getting thinner, smaller and, flatter big surprise there. This trend has been going on for ages. No surprise. 🙄

If you think this is something new, you must have come out of your cave recently. 😱 🙄
 
~Shard~ said:
No surprises anymore? 😕 So I assume you saw the iPod nano coming a mile away, as well as the seriously-updated iMac shortly thereafter? 🙄 😛 😀

I saw that iMac coming a mile away, mostly because I didn't want another iMac as I had just bought a Rev. B, therefore it is only natural for me to get exactly what I don't want. 😱

~Shard~ said:
Speculating is fun, it gets the creative juices flowing, and gives members the chance to converse about possibilities and alternatives they may never have thought of - it's the benefit of being in a think-tank structure! And then when Apple surprises us with something we weren't really expecting, that makes it even better! 😉 🙂

I agree! And besides, the people are nice. 🙂
 
maya said:
A sad day, we have become so shallow. 🙁

There is no surprise anymore. I want to hear just once that MWSF XX is cancelled and we are not sure when there will be another Expo or event. Something to mix it up and get it interesting again. 🙄

maya said:
Technology getting thinner, smaller and, flatter big surprise there. This trend has been going on for ages. No surprise. 🙄

If you think this is something new, you must have come out of your cave recently. 😱 🙄

If you really felt this way...You wouldn't be here. 🙄
 
This is part of the Intel transition

maya said:
There is no surprise anymore. I want to hear just once that MWSF XX is cancelled and we are not sure when there will be another Expo or event.
The Intel transition will mean that Apple will introduce updated systems at the Intel press events, on stage with Dell, HP, Lenovo, Gateway and *all the other* Intel OEMs.

Jobs will have to get used to sharing the spotlight, at events that he can't control.

What's the point of Jobs trying to wow the Mac faithful with a new Yonah-based PowerBook in mid-January - when the other vendors introduced their Yonah 'books at the Intel event the last week of December?

It will be interesting to see Jobs adjust to being a minor player on a stage that he can't control....

ps: It's not an accident that the word "control" is repeated several times - Jobs is an ultimate "control freak", and he just handed control of the Mac destiny to Intel....
 
EricNau said:
I agree! And besides, the people are nice. 🙂

So to predict a Newton 2 or some sort of new Apple branded/designed PDA is great to speculate when in reality you have no say in what Apple will release. If it comes true great if not a disappointment, but no surprise there either.

Why even waste you time, if you believe you can do better rather than speculate to allow your creative juices going then put it on paper and get it into the design/industrial field. Stop pondering and start moving. Unless you just like to waste time. 🙄
 
AidenShaw said:
The Intel transition will mean that Apple will introduce updated systems at the Intel press events, on stage with Dell, HP, Lenovo, Gateway and *all the other* Intel OEMs.

Jobs will have to get used to sharing the spotlight, at events that he can't control.

What's the point of Jobs trying to wow the Mac faithful with a new Yonah-based PowerBook in mid-January - when the other vendors introduced their Yonah 'books at the Intel event the last week of December?

It will be interesting to see Jobs adjust to being a minor player on a stage that he can't control....

I don't see why it will be that different. Apple wasn't making their own processors before, and they never had to "share the spotlight" with other companies that used IBM also.
 
EricNau said:
If you really felt this way...You wouldn't be here. 🙄

I am sure I have been here longer than you, mate. I once cared..then the glimmer of it all just fades overtime. You will get there, you might not think so, but you will. 🙄
 
Yawn...I didn't vote, but if I did, it would be negative. Who cares about an update to iLife, or a faster CPU, or a this or that. oooh...I got something really sweet. Let's officially release what hackers have been doing for months. It's like it's something really sweet, but it's nothing new at all. The iPod was new. It reinvented how the world listened to music. The intel macs are revisions. iLive is a revision.

As far as I'm concerned, the best rumor so far is Numbers and that laptop with the battery that can last all day on a single charge. that's a brand new app, and a laptop that reinvents how we use laptops.
 
maya said:
Technology getting thinner, smaller and, flatter big surprise there. This trend has been going on for ages. No surprise. 🙄

Yes, but it's how it's implemented that is the beautiful thing, and the hard thing to predict. So when CDs were all the rage, MP3s were hardly around, and Discmans were being used, you automatically knew iPods were coming, since technology is getting thinner, smaller and flatter? Right... 🙄 If I see any postings for a Assistant Oracle at Apple I'll pass them along to you. 😛 🙂

EricNau said:
I saw that iMac coming a mile away, mostly because I didn't want another iMac as I had just bought a Rev. B, therefore it is only natural for me to get exactly what I don't want. 😱

You saw Front Row, a remote, built in iSight, DDR2 RAM and upgraded displays coming with the new iMac? 😉

EricNau said:
If you really felt this way...You wouldn't be here. 🙄

Busted... 😉 😎
 
New Powerbook G5 Teflon Coated...

I am psychic, therefore I predict that
they will release a Powerbook G5 afterall,
and, straying a bit from the Aluminum look and feel,
the new Powerbook G5 will have a non-stick Teflon surface
on which you can fry an egg, thus fully utilizing the
"over-heating" feature of these new powerbooks.
 
maya said:
So to predict a Newton 2 or some sort of new Apple branded/designed PDA is great to speculate when in reality you have no say in what Apple will release. If it comes true great if not a disappointment, but no surprise there either.

Why even waste you time, if you believe you can do better rather than speculate to allow your creative juices going then put it on paper and get it into the design/industrial field. Stop pondering and start moving. Unless you just like to waste time. 🙄

Why are you wasting your time telling me to stop wasting my time? 😕

And your posts per day average is still higher than mine.
 
AidenShaw said:
The Intel transition will mean that Apple will introduce updated systems at the Intel press events, on stage with Dell, HP, Lenovo, Gateway and *all the other* Intel OEMs.

Jobs will have to get used to sharing the spotlight, at events that he can't control.

What's the point of Jobs trying to wow the Mac faithful with a new Yonah-based PowerBook in mid-January - when the other vendors introduced their Yonah 'books at the Intel event the last week of December?

It will be interesting to see Jobs adjust to being a minor player on a stage that he can't control....

We seem to agree with something, Apple is no longer "different" on the hardware level and they seem to have been transitioning to the standard of the entire industry slowly. No need to pay the premium anymore. That special presence that Apple once represented is fading away quite quickly. 🙄
 
~Shard~ said:
You saw Front Row, a remote, built in iSight, DDR2 RAM and upgraded displays coming with the new iMac? 😉

Na, I just knew they'd replace my iMac with something better that I wish I could buy, but can't afford. 🙁 😱
 
EricNau said:
I don't see why it will be that different. Apple wasn't making their own processors before, and they never had to "share the spotlight" with other companies that used IBM also.
Then name all the other companies that were releasing systems based on MPC74xx and PPC970 processors....

'nuf said.

Apple was sharing the stage with all those other companies - in other words, they were alone on the stage.
 
Cookieee said:
I am psychic, therefore I predict that
they will release a Powerbook G5 afterall,
and, straying a bit from the Aluminum look and feel,
the new Powerbook G5 will have a non-stick Teflon surface
on which you can fry an egg, thus fully utilizing the
"over-heating" feature of these new powerbooks.

HeHeHe

BTW: you can already fry an egg on those things. OUCH!
 
maya said:
We seem to agree with something, Apple is no longer "different" on the hardware level and they seem to have been transitioning to the standard of the entire industry slowly. No need to pay the premium anymore. That special presence that Apple once represented is fading away quite quickly. 🙄
It's really depressing too! As the intel transition approaches, I mourn the loss of the G5. Maybe Apple'll keep OS X PPC updated, so if Motorolla or whomever makes their PPC's ever comes out with a G9 or something, Jobs can say "One more thing...Apple's will start using this new state of the art processor utilizing an advanced PPC archetecture."
 
~Shard~ said:
Yes, but it's how it's implemented that is the beautiful thing, and the hard thing to predict. So when CDs were all the rage, MP3s were hardly around, and Discmans were being used, you automatically knew iPods were coming, since technology is getting thinner, smaller and flatter? Right... 🙄 If I see any postings for a Assistant Oracle at Apple I'll pass them along to you. 😛 🙂



You saw Front Row, a remote, built in iSight, DDR2 RAM and upgraded displays coming with the new iMac? 😉



Busted... 😉 😎

Actually many people saw the iMac transform into a media centre to some level. How soon or how well it will be implemented was in Apple's hands. So no surprise there. DDR2, larger screens, thinner profile, again all predictable. The question only remained when it would be released.

When the LCD iMac G4 was released, people already knew before the introduction where the iMac was heading and that was a computer slapped behind the LCD screen. Which was dismayed by Apple Tech Team as flawed, yet here we have the iMac G5. Contradiction I believe so. 🙄

The iPod or whatever its called in the next 1-3 years time, will either be broken into pieces or become so small that it will be rendered useless to the average consumer as navigation and usability will not complement design. You can only get so small, thin, flat before it turn useless. Its all about balance. Design you got to be joking right, for anything I give a great thanks to the iPod OS, since even that to a point is not original. Nothing about the iPod or the OS for that matter is really original, it is however all about timing. And on that note Apple had great timing and that is all.

Why can't other companies not follow that success, since they are trying to implement too much too fast, with poor support, etc... or either they are just retarded that they know nothing or little about branding.

Apple is not know for they Computers rather iPod music/mp3 players, and the last time I checked they were registered as "Apple Computers" not "Apple iPods." 🙄
 
Yvan256 said:
PDA equals "distinct operating system" to most people. I'm not talking about a PDA, I'm talking about a portable computer the size of a "PDA".

I don't want some "OS X lite" operating system that requires a special version of software (like Windows CE or PalmOS). This is one of the main reason the PDA market isn't as strong as it could be (similar to MP3 players before/without the iPod).



This thing (PCG-X505) is way too big, there's no real surface difference between that and a 12" iBook/PowerBook. Making something thinner doesn't make it smaller (you can't fit a 0.5" thick laptop in your pocket if it has a 12" screen).

Imagine a thin (0.5") Mac mini, cut about 25% on the depth (say, 6x4x0.5").

mmm, hafta disagree. You say that PDA's are not as high of market share because they run skimpy OS's. Like mp3 players before the ipod.... oh wait, that's why the ipod sells so well. Really simple OS. If you put the full fledged OS on there, not only woudl it be a major resource hog given what you can fit into a PDA, and be ghastly to operate without a keyboard and mouse, but also it would be decidedly complex for the job it needs to do. You aren't going to be able to use all the features of an OS on something that small, so do you want them? No.

And perfect evidence. Mac mini is just barely enough computer to run the OS well, some would argue not given the lack of HD space. You KNOW apple crammed that thing tight. And you argue making it 1/4 the size, while adding input devices and a screen. Asking for a little bit of a miracle.

If apple does release a product in another market like that, I'd be dissapointed. Apple is small, so they should use that to their advantage, as they do. It allows them to be nimble, to focus on doing a few things right, to not have to please everybody and therefore embrace simplicity. Apple will do better by working to do better in the buisnesses it's in, or entering into others that are prime (like ipod), than trying to leverage its way into doing everything that is being done. Why? Apple can grow that way, they don't spend money (don't have risk) and don't have huge boat and thousands of projects they have to keep going when they need change direction. Microsoft, though, has no room to grow within its market, but has a lot more leverage and a lot more secruity of revenue stream built in. So its best course is trying to get into as many markets as it can as a method of growth, and use its weight to kick others out. So they fight the netscape IE wars, the AAC WMA wars, the cell phone OS wars- they make a media center OS, hope it goes somewhere, make a tablet PC, hope it's the next big thing.

But if apple did that, they'd be broke fast.

So I'm just aiming to say, not to you but to all those who dream of an iphone or a PDA or a true media center or a true video ipod -- don't expect it. Apple's got the privelage of being able to pick and choose markets and hence battles. It will exercise that privelage.
 
AidenShaw said:
Then name all the other companies that were releasing systems based on MPC74xx and PPC970 processors....

'nuf said.

Apple was sharing the stage with all those other companies - in other words, they were alone on the stage.

Apple may participate in those events, but I don't think we'll be seeing changes in the current "system". We'll still have MWSF, and it will still be Steve Jobs.
I think this just means Steve will have to be in more places at more times.

Besides, as they are sharing the stage with other companies (Dell, HP, etc.) then those CEO's can think things like "geeez, I wish we had thought of that." Then they'll get nervous and pee their pants on stage in front of everyone. 😛

I'm not sure what kinds of events these would be, but if they are open to the public, it just means even more publicity for Apple. (Because people that would never consider an Apple would see if right near their beloved HP and realize it kicks the pants off of it.)
 
Apple has made me really hate the word 'keynote'. All I see on mac sites is "steve jobs to keynote X event" Please stop using it immediately.
 
EricNau said:
Cancel MWSF! 😱 Don't ever mutter those words around here again! 😱

It's a sad day when a computer company runs your personal life and the highlight of your personal life is an Expo or Show held by that company. Sad indeed. 🙄

Wake up call, you do not live in the Matrix. 🙄
 
maya said:
Actually many people saw the iMac transform into a media centre to some level. How soon or how well it will be implemented was in Apple's hands. So no surprise there. DDR2, larger screens, thinner profile, again all predictable. The question only remained when it would be released.

When the LCD iMac G4 was released, people already knew before the introduction where the iMac was heading and that was a computer slapped behind the LCD screen. Which was dismayed by Apple Tech Team as flawed, yet here we have the iMac G5. Contradiction I believe so. 🙄

The iPod or whatever its called in the next 1-3 years time, will either be broken into pieces or become so small that it will be rendered useless to the average consumer as navigation and usability will not complement design. You can only get so small, thin, flat before it turn useless. Its all about balance. Design you got to be joking right, for anything I give a great thanks to the iPod OS, since even that to a point is not original. Nothing about the iPod or the OS for that matter is really original, it is however all about timing. And on that note Apple had great timing and that is all.

Why can't other companies not follow that success, since they are trying to implement too much too fast, with poor support, etc... or either they are just retarded that they know nothing or little about branding.

Apple is not know for they Computers rather iPod music/mp3 players, and the last time I checked they were registered as "Apple Computers" not "Apple iPods." 🙄

maya said:
It's a sad day when a computer company runs your personal life and the highlight of your personal life is an Expo or Show held by that company. Sad indeed. 🙄

Wake up call, you do not live in the Matrix. 🙄
Why are you being so bitter? 😕 You've ended all of your last 8 comments with the " 🙄 " symbol.
 
EricNau said:
Apple may participate in those events, but I don't think we'll be seeing changes in the current "system". We'll still have MWSF, and it will still be Steve Jobs.
I think this just means Steve will have to be in more places at more times.

Besides, as they are sharing the stage with other companies (Dell, HP, etc.) then those CEO's can think things like "geeez, I wish we had thought of that." Then they'll get nervous and pee their pants on stage in front of everyone. 😛

I'm not sure what kinds of events these would be, but if they are open to the public, it just means even more publicity for Apple. (Because people that would never consider an Apple would see if right near their beloved HP and realize it kicks the pants off of it.)

Pride comes before a Fall, and Apple is due for another (remembers the G4 Cube as of recent years). That is indeed how life works and Apple is not immune to it either. The iPod will either evolve or die out, since there is only so much you can do before it stagnates and dies a slow death. 🙄
 
EricNau said:
Why are you being so bitter? 😕

Apple coins its self as being "Innovative" when in reality it is not. Even past programmers, Woz have stated his several times in the present and the past. When everyone was going crazy as to how great OS X was, and Woz and some other programmers stated that its nothing new, nothing innovative but only evolutionary at the least.

I am not bitter, I am looking at Apples presence without a jaded outlook. 🙄
 
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