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Jobs To Keynote MWSF '06
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maya
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EricNau said:
It eeks me as to how jaded and naiive people are to Apple and its products as of recent, that they are willing to accept anything and I do mean anything that might be wrong with an Apple product and pass it up as they own fault. In the mean time Apple either does little or nothing to improve on that flaw and yet they release some new product with the same problems. Get it together, you work on these products for how many years the hardware is controlled internally and yet you still cannot get it right. The OS is a different issue, you can not fix all bugs however they do try. Apple has also caught many times trying to bloat they marketing on very level. I do not need to remind people, if you were following Apple for years you know what I am referring to. 🙄
maya said:
Look "jaded" up in the dictionary... it perfectly describes your current attitude: world-weary and cynical.
EricNau
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That's what I first thought, but then I started thinking it might actually help them. There might be some deticated HP user out there that shows up to see the CEO of HP show off his new computer, and then see Steve Jobs show off the Apple - there is no way you couldn't just love it. Not only is Apple a wonderful product, but Steve Jobs knows very well how to show them off. It might help Apple get a little further into the PC world - making it easier for people to switch. (Note: I didn't say they were becoming like PC's but the more PC users see of Jobs, the better.)Peace said:
My 1000th Post! 😀 😀 😀
steve_hill4
macrumors 68000
Asking a lot there, but I agree with most of it, (not sure the time is right for more iPod or nano upgrades, I'd say March at the earliest). I think Steve will mark the first anniversary of the shuffle with an upgrade of that, hopefully with a small OLED screen, (ala Sony), but still find it unlikely. iWork '06 and iLife '06 are almost certainties, but we are unsure what exactly they will include and cost. The Mac Mini also needs an overhaul and hopefully it will go intel with the PowerBook.aswitcher said:
I know so many want it to be the Mac Mini and iBook, with the professionals going later, but the PowerBook is really in need of an upgrade in processor and the iBook can still go a little faster on the G4. Switch to a 1.5GHz and 1.67GHz for the iBooks and over to Yonah for the PowerBooks perhaps.
steve_hill4
macrumors 68000
You mean something different to the iPod Camera Connector that is already available, (and has been since the iPod Photo Rev. B)? I would be more inclined to predict a firmware update to allow slideshows with imported photos, (from camera, as it currently restricts you to from computer only), and maybe some added transitions, 3-D especially. Either way, if it is a firmware update or a new attachment you are predicting, I wouldn't see this as a major announcement at MWSF.LimeiBook86 said:
steve_hill4
macrumors 68000
That and their screens. I still much prefer the Apple style screens, but brighter, than the X-Black screens. Seen the 23" Sony display recently and that isn't X-Black and alongside the standard 19" X-Black, it looks so much better.kirk26 said:
Same with a vaio and PowerBook alongside each other. The PB could do with being a bit brighter, but still easier and better looking than the vaio.
steve_hill4
macrumors 68000
130 posts and the first post mentioning a Newton, I believe. Again let us speculate how switching to intel will give apple the PDA sized processors needed for another Newton. I may have to wait a few years into it, but I would buy one.maya said:
steve_hill4
macrumors 68000
That would be pretty cool, Steve Jobs playing charades at MWSF, getting people to guess what he is announcing. 😀Photorun said:
AidenShaw
macrumors P6
Boy, y'all are looking at the world through Apple-coloured lenses....EricNau said:
These are Intel events, not Stevenotes.
When Intel introduces a new laptop chipset, some Dell laptop VP will be there, and get a couple of minutes to talk about new Dell models using the new chipset. You didn't see Carly and Michael and crowd onstage at these Intel events - just Intel talking about the new product, and a display of some of the new models built with the new product.
There's also a lack of surprise in these announcements. For example, everyone knows that Yonah is imminent. Geek sites have them in hand, reporting on them. Manufacturers are getting them, and building them into systems. Pretty soon they'll be in full production (if they aren't already) and the system builders will be filling the channel with Yonah laptops. Then there will be a press invitation "Come see Intel announce 'Yonah' next Tuesday". On Tuesday the only surprise will be if the official name is not "Pentium M".
If the Steve does a "one more thing" after the transition is well underway, it will need to be for true innovation - not a simple refresh to newer tech.
For example, there was no innovation in the latest PowerMac announcement - just the same old box refreshed with current technology (dual-core chip from IBM, PCIe from Intel et al.).
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Think about what the situation would be today if another manufacturer were shipping PPC 7448 based laptops. How long could Apple continue to ship 7447-based systems? Could Apple just update the screen and call it a new model, without using the same CPU as the other guys? Or could Apple, months after the other guys are shipping faster or better systems, stage a Stevenote and watch the guy in black say "one more thing"???
I think not....
steve_hill4
macrumors 68000
His keynotes would hopefully evolve into something more than just new hardware announcements. We've seen other products creeping in more and more in recent years, (iPods being the main ones), and he can also concentrate on Apple/3rd Party software and peripherals designed to make the Mac experience even better. Let's say it does go this way, one week Apple stand alongside the others in announcing their new models and then the following week we have a keynote where Steve shows us what the new software and hardware works like together, (like say a PowerBook with a seperate HD iSight, running Aperture Express). That would still be like we have now, except the base machine would already be known before the keynote. More of a demonstration than an announcement.AidenShaw said:
~Shard~
macrumors P6
AidenShaw said:
Excellent points. Now that Apple is moving to Intel, things are changing - drastically. To be successful in this new world, Apple is going to have to adapt, similar to what you've described above. All of a sudden some tactics and approaches to "new" technology are not going to be acceptable anymore, and Apple is going to have to step up. 2006 will indeed be an interesting year.... 😎
AidenShaw
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I think you'll see more choices, more evolutionary changes, and fewer "big bang" Stevenotes.~Shard~ said:
For example, about six weeks ago I ordered 4 new Dell workstations. Due to a manager hitting the wrong button during the approval chain, the request went into limbo even though the status was reading "approved".
When I found this out early this week - of course I did not immediately try to fix the problem and get the request out of limbo.
I went to the Dell website, and checked the current configuration and options lists for that model. Since six weeks ago, the price had gone down for memory and a faster CPU was available, as well as dual dual-core. The 24" LCD was also a bit cheaper.
I got a new quote, cancelled the old order, and placed a new order for better tech at a lower price.
No big announcements, just continual technology refresh. That's the new world.
~Shard~
macrumors P6
AidenShaw said:
Precisely. Apple is no longer going to be able to wow us with "updates" to their products, if these are in fact not true updates. As you said, what kind of "update" would Apple have released to the PowerBooks if a 7448 model was available? Apple is not going to be able to wait months at a time before releasing updates - that's not the speed the Intel world moves at, as you have shown in your above example. Apple is going to have to keep pace, or they will seem foolish to the public. "Here are our new laptops which finally have technology the rest of the Intel PC world has had for the past 4 months!" If Intel releases a new chip, lowers the price, whatever, then Apple will need to react to that at the same time as Dell, etc. - not wait 4 months later just because that's when the next Stevenote is scheduled for. 😎
I can replace components in my PC at my whim, as soon as new technologies are available, and don't have to wait for an overarching "update". And costs continue to decrease. How will Apple address this when they will be using, in effect, those very same components?
