Is the new MacBook, it is as simple as that. You need to remember your teen days and that need for having the latest thing. We're talking about Apple here, the most valued company in the world with a fanbase like no others. When Apple releases a new product you better bet people is gonna buy it.
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John Gruber: Apple Invented USB Type C
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Is the new MacBook, it is as simple as that. You need to remember your teen days and that need for having the latest thing. We're talking about Apple here, the most valued company in the world with a fanbase like no others. When Apple releases a new product you better bet people is gonna buy it.
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Yeah. I only use the brakes on my bike less than 0.1% of the time, so I probably don't need those right?
If Apple did invent it then I'd expect it to debut on their devices first. However even the Nokia N1 tablet announced back in November 2014 had a USB-C port. Also if they created it, even if it was designed to be a standard connection, I'd expect them to have some exclusivity for a while, yet it is already available on the chromebook pixel.
However of course Apple invented it, just like they invented force touch *cough cough* haptic feedback.
However of course Apple invented it, just like they invented force touch *cough cough* haptic feedback.
I think the PRO lineup will keep to be different, with a different target in mind.
We can only hope! If I had to make a prediction, I'd guess that they will end up keeping the MacBook Pro name too, and ditching the Air (which is replaced by the new MacBook). But what ports will that MBP have? I really hope it has MagSafe, alongside a generous number of USB-C ports, but I'm not feeling hopeful. I'll stick my neck out and guess it'll be thinner (of course!), with three USB-C ports, one Thunderbolt port and one headphone socket (losing MagSafe, HDMI, SD slot, and one Thunderbolt port) essentially going from six data ports, down to three (when you're charging). Hoping I'm wrong and it has more! Any less than that would be something of a disaster I think.
Force Touch and haptic feedback are not the same thing. Apple incorporated haptic feedback in their force touch but it is not the same.
Force Touch senses how hard you press. So who else has "force touch" then? *cough cough* nobody.
so what ?
Why not exclude the left rear door on most cars - 'most' people won't need that door either.
What makes the Air a "must have" compared to the Pro? As far as I'm aware they shaved a millimetre or two from it's belly, removed the Retina screen and took away some very handy ports. Weight, Size, Heat, Noise. Thats what makes a laptop. You don't want some heavy, big, hot, loud computer sitting on the top of your lap.
Lighter, Smaller, Cooler, Quieter = MUST HAVE
You're right. In a sedan or a minivan, that might be an odd omission.
The new MacBook is an automotive version of the Miata, not a minivan.
Stop complaining that the Miata on the lot (that you have no intention of buying) won't fit your family, dog, and summer vacation gear. Go buy the minivan.
Our economy sucks because we pay overflated prices for Apple products? We earn on average more than Americans, that's for sure, it still sucks that we have to pay 400-500 more for the same product. That's why I buy Apple products when I'm in the States, saving 500 euros is basically my flight ticket to NYC and back.
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So wait, weakened currency means we have to pay another 200 euros extra on top of already more expensive pricing for the same products.
When I'm in the States I can save up to 500 euros easily on buying the same product as buying it over here. That is a round trip to NYC for me.
Sorry, but there is no logic in Apple's overseas pricing other than Apple's greediness.
Politics. It would probably hurt the chances of it becoming the standard because the other companies would be all ******** about it.
come on. at best its one of the scooters/vespas with a roof although you wouldnt think so when looking at the price.
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Though a big part, if not the biggest part of their miscalculation was forgoing the carrier subsidies. So it was less about setting the actual price but about their sales model
The screen is very much premium compared with the MBAs. And the lower size and weight is a premium feature for an important subgroup of people.
And I bet you also didn't see any premium aspect in the original MBA (which didn't have the objective premium aspect of a higher resolution screen the new MB has but only the size and weight advantage which might not be a premium aspect for you), but it still sold if not in great numbers certainly in reasonable quantities. And once it was available with an SSD for a lower price it had an objective premium aspect at a price higher than the then MBs.
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You might well be right about the future in terms of the legal situation. I was talking about what was the legal situation since the issue first got raised by the EU (commission).
And how could you achieve the goal without specifying a connector? You could say to the industry that you don't care about which connector is used as long as it is the same on all phones and let the industry pick which connector they want to use. But the result is essentially the same and the industry certainly was able to say which port they preferred.
if you want to look at it that way however apple had an inflated view of what they should get for each phone as well as capacity offered.
yes the screen is better (considerably) than the mba and its somewhat lighter. that dosent mean i see the device itself as a premium one and coming close to justifying its price.
please dont assume what i thought about the original mba. i would argue that one was much more of a breakthrough than this one in their uniqueness.
24 pins. 4 power, 4 ground, 8 high speed, 4 USB2 (paralleled), two reserved for future use, one to power circuitry in the cable, and one to control power.
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USB allows "alternate modes" in USB Type C, Display Port is the first.
Why tongue in receptacle? Simple, ESD. You can protect something slow like USB2.0 with a diode.
Type C is designed for USB3.1 Gen 2. All the over voltage devices add capacitance, which limits usable frequency (10Gb/s operates to 5GHz).
The closest comparison with other Mac laptops at the time for the original MBA was the 13" MB (which came out eight months later). The original MBA weighted 3.0 lbs and the 13" MB weighted 4.5 lbs. The new MB weighs 2.03 lbs and the current 13" MBA weighs 2.96 lbs (the 11" MBA weighs 2.36 lbs). So the original MBA was 33% lighter than the 13" MB. The new MB is 31% or 14% lighter (depending on which MBA you use as a base). So we might be getting into the area of diminishing returns but then the new MB has a clearly better screen compared to the current MBAs, so the weight loss might not be quite as large but the screen distinguishes it more, something the original MBA did not do. It's only trump was size and weight. And the original MBA started also at a much higher price than the new MB.
But in the end, already if the new MB only sells decently, it will show that enough people do consider it to be premium enough to pay a premium price.
you are right it was considerably cheaper (just over $400 if you add in the dongle). and obviously the screen is holding the mba back these days. was it that bad though in 2008?
we will see how this one develops.
Thats not a problem as the Thunderbolt display is only 2.5K and does not really matter as the Macbook does not have thunderbolt. It can be used with 27" ACD though.
Yes, it would be great if Apple could create magnetic connectors. But I think with Intel's Skylake processors, beginning next year, there will be wireless interfaces that allow peripherals to be connected without any wires or cables, so magnetic connectors may be unnecessary now.