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John Gruber Says 'Something is Rotten' at Apple
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Oh, my bad, they are slightly faster and have slightly better cameras.
Exactly right. I’ve said before that dynamic island looks like something they came up with to deal with the unforced error of cutting a hole in the display. It is a different notification mechanism, and it can be good in that way. But there is nothing precluding its implementation if there is no hole in the screen. By having the hole, they effectively curtailed exploration of notification UX paradigms for a while, at least until they get rid of the physical cutout that they have to do something to justify.
I also miss the physical mute switch. I rarely looked at it. I could put my hand in my pocket and feel the phone to determine if it was muted.
I like Dynamic Island, extremely useful.
Under display cameras still suffer quality issues.
Yeah I get that, but the action button overall is just better.
Don’t pretend an under display camera was their only option. Would you have left their ecosystem if Apple had prioritized function over form just that one time and decided to keep a small top bezel for camera-like components? I suspect you wouldn’t have, any more than I would have over the decision to cut a hole in the screen.
Better for you.
The dynamic island is great and very useful as well as it extends to the Apple Watch. I understand not everybody likes it.
Yes. 100%, I was not speaking for anyone else except for me.
Tim Cook is not a product leader. He’s 100% beholden to the shareholders these days and nearly every decision shows that. It is long past time for him to go and for a product leader to take over the CEO spot and refocus the company and get the software side of the business in shape, because it’s been a consistent wreck since precisely when Steve’s been gone.
This line of thinking is the problem in a product company; and this country for that matter.
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The thing is I’m not complaining. I generally like and support the way Apple implements things. The notch and now Dynamic Island is brilliant. The what if scenario is a game I don’t play.
This is the problem. Some don’t like Tim but it doesn’t mean he hasn’t done a fantastic job for Apple.
Yes
Innovation? You mean gimmicks?
Apple has never been big on gimmicky things or even being first. They release things late but they work better
I'm talking about complex music requests. Ask it to play the third song in an album, just like that. 'play track 3 of album X'. It can't.
I know you are not complaining. It was a simple question as part of an ongoing dialog.
I guess this was not you suggesting what would result if Apple used under display cameras. In case you hadn’t noticed, you are engaging in the forums of a rumors site that is, by its nature, rife with “what if” scenarios. It’s part of the usual dialog here.
I wanted more clarity on the state of under the screen camera in 2024 and that was the consensus of my web search.
That’s exactly right. And Apple Maps was awful when it came out, and we all relied on Google or Waze instead. But in time, they improved the product.
I think the bigger problem is that many people don’t even want the product
Can you connect your iPhone to a display and it becomes a desktop OS? Can you fold your iPad Mini and put it in your jeans pocket?
I am increasingly starting to feel one word for Apple's non-Mac lineup and that is 'stale'.
This.
Plus Apple selling their products at ever increasing premium price and premium-priced upgrades (RAM, storage), discontinuing OS/HW (e.g., battery) support for devices that would be totally usable for many years, US-only features (for years, if ever available elsewhere), etc.
Regardings computers, I am happy linux user at work, so next time I need a new computer for personal use, I may as well give a Lenovo/Dell/whatever a go and install linux on it. For phone, nowadays I can't even think what does iPhone have that can't be done with an android/whatever phone. Privacy? Maybe, who really knows. Camera upgrades every year plus some US-only features/monthly paid services do not really cut it anymore.
By desktop OS, you mean something slightly worse than Chrome OS. No I don’t want to and most people with a Samsung phone don’t want to either.
I’m sure Samsung saw this in the movie somewhere so they figured wow, let’s try this. The problem is how does the user implement it. That’s the difference between Samsung and Apple. Apple does things based on what they think the user is going to do rather than can we do this cool thing. I’m home with my phone and I’m going to use it for a desktop computer. OK that means I have a monitor to plug it in right? Well if I have a monitor then I probably have a more powerful desktop computer already connected to it. I could plug it into my television. It’s a sort of half-baked approach, but then I need a keyboard and mouse. Oh, I have one, but it’s for my desktop so I taking that keyboard and mouse to the living room so I can use it with my phone that’s plugged in to the TV? No I’ll just use the desktop computer I already have set up. Maybe I don’t have a desktop computer that means I probably don’t have a keyboard or a mouse either so am I buying these just to use my phone with the TV? Yeah, you see why this idea that sounds so cool in a movie doesn’t really make it to users. Even if it was a full-fledged desktop operating system it still would not be popular. This is a gimmick or party trick that you can impress your friends with, not something useful.
Maybe this idea has promise but not with the current interface we use that computers with. Some type of AI based voice control? That’s the thing you have to go over how the user will interact with these things. Samsung doesn’t do this. They just create the cool party trick and hope it catches on.
No, I don’t want to spend $1500 for an iPad mini that folds and the screen is creased permanently in the middle
You’re right Apple doesn’t implement things that aren’t quite ready for primetime. I think some of these ideas actually will be successful. The folding screen concept has promise, but it’s not there yet. At some point we’re going to have a folding screen that’s not extremely delicate and doesn’t have a permanent crease. I guarantee you there’s a folding iPhone in Cupertino somewhere. If Apple release it before it’s good users are going to roast them and they know it. Apple, can’t get away with the same things Samsung or other android phone manufacturers do.
This is nothing new for Apple. People act like Apple was the first to jump on technologies, but they never were. I remember when 3G came out and iPhone didn’t have it. There are many more examples of iPhone being late to the party with technology and features.
You’re rarely going to see what I would call beta features on an iPhone. Android phones will throw a whole bunch of spaghetti against the wall and see what sticks. That’s a very effective way of testing things, but it’s not what Apple does. If you want the latest cool thing where by using radar you can hold your hand over the phone and gesture it to do things then you have to buy a Google Pixel. Well not the current one because that spaghetti didn’t stick to the wall, but you get what I mean.
Ever increasing prices? This must be a thing locally to your country because it’s not like this in the US. Apple really hasn’t increased their prices for quite some time and upgrade prices have been the same for years that I can remember.
Maybe y’all are getting hit with some sort of extra charge because of your government’s regulations or taxes? That’s just my guess because I really don’t know what’s going on there. I can understand the frustration of price increases though because they are annoying.
As to the comment you replied to about AI that’s a classic example of why companies cannot listen to what people say they want. That guy doesn’t care about AI and maybe that’s true for him but AI is the future. If Apple doesn’t get on that train, they will be left at the station with blackberry and all the other companies that failed. They don’t have a choice. Right now they are failing at AI, but failing is at least trying because if they don’t try, they’re going to be dead in the water
You may be right about right about the price excl. taxes. But as an example, the release price incl. taxes of iPhone 16(non-pro)/128 GB was 999 € for me, that's around 1100 USD (with today's exchange rate).
I agree with you that Apple as a company has to be on the AI train, meaning that (some) people are expecting ChatGPT-like features from their devices. However, the empty promises on any feature is what's bothering me. IMHO it would have been better not to promise anything until AI features are good enough for release. Maybe they (marketing department) panicked.
I think all AI-thing was poorly managed by Apple. They've lost the train, that is obvious, and they are selling it as The Next Big Thing. This is only emphasizes the fact that they were late on something important and also they are doing free publicity for others that have already adopted it since a while.
If you've lost the train, just put your head down and adopt the (useful) parts of the technology on normal upgrade cycles without doing so much noise (and focus in improving the OS software, for example)
If you've lost the train, just put your head down and adopt the (useful) parts of the technology on normal upgrade cycles without doing so much noise (and focus in improving the OS software, for example)
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