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The point is not that no uses Calendar, it is that having your appointments read is too slow for someone used to the calendar interface

And yes I saw the whole video. Got even worse as it went on. Like has no one heard of full-screen in that video. The UI takes up like more than 50% of the space and the actual data is shown in a small window.

On the agent aspect, it took ages for that guy to speak to the assistant and have it do some simple tasks together. Why bother when I can do them faster on my own?
You really don't get it do you?

That was 1984! This pre-dates the dawn of the internet and was smack-dab into 3400Baud modems and BBS the pre-cursor to Forums! Computers were HELLA slow then! I'm not even sure how old you where in 1984 or even alive to appreciate that YES everything you said about the slow performance matches that era!

Again its a CONCEPT - Apple was seriously leap-frogging forward thinking to the current year - and yet STILL dropped the ball even having almost 10yrs advance lead ahead of the entire industry not just the competition. That's what you're missing. I offered the video as food for thought NOT to take a concept from 1984 and its current lagging performance as an expection of what to expect herein 2025. You missed that somewhere I think but oh well. I'll drop it there.
 
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Apple's failure to deliver on the early promise of Sir is puzzling... but I always buy on features not promises. I suppose that was the hard lesson from the early days of computers. We seem to be right back at the beginning.
It was a promised feature that would appear in the upcoming iOS update. Wouldn’t be surprised if someone starts a class action lawsuit against Apple for deceit
 
i refuse to update my iphone 12 until these new features are actually working, not coming soon, coming this summer bsht!
 
I agree that parting ways with Forstall was unfortunate but wasn’t it a trade off to keep Jony Ive? Now Apple has neither person. See my 2011 essay, The NeXT Steve Jobs Exists and He's Already Working at Apple.
Eh ... although I'm sure Jony Ive had some disagreements with Forstall, it really was Federighi that played the second fiddle of OS VP that couldn't stand the tenacity hard work, and demands of Forstall. Simply because Forstall WAS indeed better - history has fully proven that; even to the point of Federighi making fun of an Android feature and go back after 7yrs to do the EXACT same thing he made fun off - [bumping to share a contact].

There were a few sub-ordinates that simply couldn't work well under the pressure - most youth today cannot deal wiht pressure and now this is what has made Apple what it is today - stagnant and re-iterating existing features making them more glorified with glamour and glitz like a stag show while the substance of the performance is lacking. Even the events highlights this ... like WHY is a rainbow soooo important in the Apple Cupertino Campus when Apple abandoned that in their Apple logo over 2 decades ago! See my point?
 
How about Apple just gives up and licenses something? How many years of failures must users accept?

For enough money, Apple can buy a solution where Apple hosts the tech and someone who knows what they are doing makes it. Privacy can be preserved, though that's mostly a late Cook-era marketing term.

That’s the problem - you never really own something you license, it potentially costs you more money in the long run, and you will always be at the mercy of the party whom you are leading your tech from.

I am fine with giving Apple the leeway to take as long as they need to get this right. Or maybe Apple never will. At the end of the day, this is just a small part of the overall Apple experience, and it doesn’t really change why I bought into their ecosystem.

I can’t speak for everyone else here. For me at least, I don’t see myself going anywhere else.
 
Quality isn't their concern anymore. Ive been ordering Macbook Pros since M1 till M4 over 50 units and they all come with dents in the screen.

Lots of forum post of people who maybe had some debris between the chassis and screen, but most of them came like that from the factory, people only notice when they clean the screen. I had multiple contact moments with high executives and they all had nothing to say.

Now they lied about new features to sell iPhones 16 Pros. Mark my words the iPhone 16 Pros will have a Siri 2.0 Lite or not even the ability to run this new Siri, cause it needs A19 Pro. Yes. You need to be forced to upgrade again to the 17 Pro Max.

This fiasco's began when they were lying about Stagemanager needing M chips to run.

This happens when companies grow big they stop innovating and use sleazy tricks to make revenue.
 
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This is interesting. Note that comment at the bottom from someone that supposedly worked on the messages team. Hmmm
 
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Apple will be a sub $200 a share company once the recession is done. They are now a mature company and their days of innovation are over, at least for now. Their two biggest recent innovation projects saw the car project completely fail in development and the Vision Pro a commercial failure. The marketing driven software development cycle of always something new every year is also now fundamentally broken. You cant drive your dev teams year after year like that and it seems its catching up on Apple. They have to get back to fundamentals of being a good company and the market price will follow in due course and not keep throwing shiny objects out every twelve months with no substance behind them to drive the share price.
 
That’s the problem - you never really own something you license, it potentially costs you more money in the long run, and you will always be at the mercy of the party whom you are leading your tech from.

I am fine with giving Apple the leeway to take as long as they need to get this right. Or maybe Apple never will. At the end of the day, this is just a small part of the overall Apple experience, and it doesn’t really change why I bought into their ecosystem.

I can’t speak for everyone else here. For me at least, I don’t see myself going anywhere else.
It's been since the iPhone 4s. How much longer are you prepared to wait? Licensing is the only way out. Licensing gets you Siri that actually works, AI powered dictation that is  so much better than what ships on iOS, the AI features that people download third party apps to get, etc. It's a short term fix, yes, but it's so much better than the alternative.
 
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I'm referring to LLM-gpt style. Rebadged AI, that would previously be called machine learning is what you're talking about....until marketing took over, isn't what I'm talking about.
Ah, it is more complicated than you think. I‘m talking about transformers, the LLMs today are used today in different scenarios like a large vision transformer. And while today most LLMs are based on transformers, this isn‘t necessary. Older models (like RNN based) were not Transformers.

Workflows you once programmed, are now replaced with Agentic AI or composed AI, which of course contain functionality of a classical LLM and you can connect em to chat messages and let them turn on the dish washer when they receive a text message or a call.

But this is very technical and hard to understand, since technology is moving crazy fast. Things like stable diffusion which you might know from image generation are now used to produce code and text in a single step, while the classic LLMs only generate one token at a time …

So, to say „I don’t want, use or need it“ is useless, this technology has already taken the world.
 
"You can't maintain credibility with b*******. When mediocrity, excuses, and b******* take root, they take over".

This is supposed to be about Tim Cook (and his company). Am I the only one thinking of someone else (and his group) when I read this?
 
"You can't maintain credibility with b*******. When mediocrity, excuses, and b******* take root, they take over".

This is supposed to be about Tim Cook (and his company). Am I the only one thinking of someone else (and his group) when I read this?
edit: I didn't see the "b" but my mind goes to bad places and I don't want to catch a ban. I have no idea what this is supposed to refrence. I'll just guess boleweevils
 
Apple will be a sub $200 a share company once the recession is done. They are now a mature company and their days of innovation are over, at least for now. Their two biggest recent innovation projects saw the car project completely fail in development and the Vision Pro a commercial failure. The marketing driven software development cycle of always something new every year is also now fundamentally broken. You cant drive your dev teams year after year like that and it seems its catching up on Apple. They have to get back to fundamentals of being a good company and the market price will follow in due course and not keep throwing shiny objects out every twelve months with no substance behind them to drive the share price.
"Apple’s AI event was more of a show-and-tell to appease Wall Street investors. Make no mistake — stockholders, not just customers, are a primary focus of the company. Back in 2020, I explained how Apple was part of nearly all our portfolios without us realizing it. Now that stake has grown even larger. Apple’s management can’t afford to make mistakes.

And perhaps that is why they had to come up with an AI strategy. So, instead of trying to do better and sticking to the Apple way, they rushed out an incomplete product
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Well, I don’t know about the self-driving car part. I just did an hour and fifteen minutes drive the other day fully on self-driving. City, freeway, mountain roads to the ocean. Didn’t touch the controls or steering wheel once. Even parked itself at arrival -shrugs-
Sure, but still no level 5 which we were told we would have had by now.
 
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For everyone saying bring back Scott Forstall, this is an interesting podcast with a personal anecdote from Ben Thompson who was an intern at Apple in 2010 and got to meet many Apple leaders, including Forstall. Ben says his recollection from the Forstall meeting is he was the most arrogant SOB he’s ever met in his life.

I finished listening to this episode, and he did say that but not in a negative way. If someone doesn't listen to this great episode, they will take this sentiment out of context and come to the wrong conclusion. He actually praises Forstall throughout the episode and says he was responsible for the success of OSX, iOS and the iOS App Store. Also, just to add;

 
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Apple is getting its @ss kicked in AI. They need to deliver and fast. Siri was the worst personal assistant for years and they never made an attempt to improve it significantly. With the resources that they have, someone should be held accountable.
 
For the most part, I have never seen people that much interested in AI to the degree they would upgrade their hardware for it, and I am not only talking about Apple fans. Even in the PC world, the people I see show no interest in it or the "CoPilot" key or "AI computers". Seeing how some Android users say the AI sucks, it could be we still need some time for it to be a key feature, but we will get there over time.
 
For the most part, I have never seen people that much interested in AI to the degree they would upgrade their hardware for it, and I am not only talking about Apple fans. Even in the PC world, the people I see show no interest in it or the "CoPilot" key or "AI computers". Seeing how some Android users say the AI sucks, it could be we still need some time for it to be a key feature, but we will get there over time.
This is not about AI. You're right, AI isn't that important. But the key is, Apple jumped onto a bandwagon (which they didn't used to do) and announced vaporware (which they didn't used to do). It's an indication of problems in Apple management that they advertised a feature that didn't even exist
 
Spot on point. Someone should be fired, not for the failure, but for making a promise with nothing to back it up.

I wonder if Apple’s attorneys are looking at the iPhone 16 revenue and wondering if they can recognize it, because of the failure to deliver the promised features.

The cherry on top of this is that they force enable the useless shipped features with the latest iOS update, even if you’ve previously disabled it.
 
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