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It’s sad watching these old school Apple commentators entering their “grumpy old man” phase.

You don’t agree with the design direction Apple’s taken in recent years. Totally fair. Design is subjective. But just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean the man doesn’t care about design.

Different people have different tastes.
Reminds me of the Cranky Geeks podcast with John C. Dvorak
 
Dye didn't care about the design because he got complacent! Too bad it's taken Apple this long to move on from him.
 
I hate my Mac every time I want to go for my curated app folders and they are no longer there.

Someone unilaterally decided I would be happier to have to remember the exact name of every app and use a freaking search window or scroll through an endless screen for apps or ask yet again for Siri to uselessly try and help me.

And every time I sign in that stupid App Library is there in my face so I both have to hate it and hate it a second and third time as I have to dismiss it and it’s disembodied search window immediately following.
A folder hierarchy containing aliases in ~/Applications, then drop the top level into the right side of the Dock and set it to your preferred style.
 
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It makes no sense to me why he wasn’t reporting into Craig Federighi’s org. Heck this is what Craig’s bio says on Apple’s leadership page:

His teams are responsible for delivering the software at the heart of Apple’s innovative products, including the user interface, applications, and frameworks.
This is a report from 2015;


"Newly updated corporate bios for Apple's design team show that the company's new vice presidents of user interface design (Alan Dye) and industrial design (Richard Howarth) will report to CEO Tim Cook — not Jony Ive. The change is part of Ive's transition to a new, more hands-off role as Apple's Chief Design Officer and was announced earlier this year, with the British designer explaining in a profile for the UK's Daily Telegraph that the role "frees [him] up from some of the administrative and management work."

When Jony Ive left, Alan Dye's and Hankey's teams reported to Jeff Williams. Now that Williams is retired, The design teams now report to Tim Cook, again.
 
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It’s sad watching these old school Apple commentators entering their “grumpy old man” phase.

You don’t agree with the design direction Apple’s taken in recent years. Totally fair. Design is subjective. But just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean the man doesn’t care about design.

Different people have different tastes.
In the article Gruber states that almost everyone in the user interface industry agrees Dye was terrible, so there's that...
 
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We'll see if there are any other departures following Dye to Meta. This might be the most telling thing with regard to his relationships with those about him, Senior Management aside.

Hard to think ONE person caused the recent chaos with Liquid Glass etc. I don't find it awful and I don't like different frankly. Turn on and off a few things in the appearance settings and accessibility and it makes it a bit better, for me.
Perfect example of such a scenario is Ford Motor 1978/9.

The insecure scion, grandson of founder, a decade into his personal midlife crisis, and creeping up on retirement as CEO, had set the company on a path to flirt with bankruptcy, through his fear of repeating his own previous mistakes, despite the successes handed him by his lieutenant, fired the product genius beneath that lieutenant, and a year later fired the marketing genius lieutenant.

The first (Sperlich) was a year into building the foundation for a resurrected Chrysler, who coaxed the latter (Iacocca) to come over.

Together at Chrysler, these two began draining the brains out of Ford.

As a result, Chrysler launched the successful K-Platform off which the high volume garagable minivan was born (an idea developed by these two at Ford which the insecure Scion, Henry Ford II had shot down again and again).

Even though the board forced HFII into retirement after a disastrous 1978/9 financial year, set the stage for a flirt with bankruptcy, the new management took a decade to present an appropriate competitor (Windstar) after a decent in its own right but failed direct competitor (Aerostar).

HFII personality driven blunder set the stage for Chrysler which would have gone bankrupt without Steve Miller (ex-Ford) the genius behind the federally backed consortium of bank loans, and Iacocca who sold this to congress, and then Sperlich, Jerry Greenwald, and later Lutz, and lesser known others, like Warburton running operational things like logistics, and who saved, reinvigorated and took business out of Ford’s own hide.

Without this fortuitous chain of events, Chrysler would have failed and Ford would have picked up nearly half its customers).

So, long story short, yes, even though the situation is different, let’s watch where the executive departees go and who follows in their wake. This will confirm how many have faith in the departed leader to make a jump from Apple to wherever.
 
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You don’t agree with the design direction Apple’s taken in recent years. Totally fair. Design is subjective. But just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean the man doesn’t care about design.

Different people have different tastes.
Design has subjective elements, but there are many objective aspects of design. It’s not all opinion.
 
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Gruber has all but ceased reviewing tech products on his site. The 2025 iPhone lineup is entering its third month and he’s barely acknowledged it. The center of gravity has shifted, for better or worse, to younger tech enthusiasts.

So Gruber, in a bid to remain relevant and keep the ad dollars flowing, has taken to posting increasingly incendiary commentary. The other day he called for the head of Warner Bros to be jailed because he didn’t like
The way Mad Men was recently remastered on HBO Max.
 
I’m aware of dozens of designers who’ve left Apple, out of frustration over the company’s direction, to work at places like LoveFrom, OpenAI, and their secretive joint venture io. I’m not sure there are any interaction designers at io who aren’t ex-Apple, and if there are, it’s only a handful.

Hmm…so are ex-Apple employees who now work for LoveFrom/io little birdies whispering into Gruber’s ear? How is it that they’ve been able to poach so many Apple employees (including hardware engineers)? Seems to me this is a bigger issue than Dye. Especially considering he was allowed to stay in that role as long as he did.
 
Hmm…so are ex-Apple employees who now work for LoveFrom/io little birdies whispering into Gruber’s ear? How is it that they’ve been able to poach so many Apple employees (including hardware engineers)? Seems to me this is a bigger issue than Dye. Especially considering he was allowed to stay in that role as long as he did.
Does Apple really hurt from not having designers who left to go work on a device with no screen? Those are the slackers who should definitely go where they can get paid to not design a UI.
 
A folder hierarchy containing aliases in ~/Applications, then drop the top level into the right side of the Dock and set it to your preferred style.
I could probably figure out what this means (thanks for tip btw) and do it but why should I have to? After all the dragging and dropping to set up those folders as I had done on my iPhone it was working great got the last decade.

Then some boxing blew it up and replaced it with dysfunctional crap.
 
gotta wonder why Gruber is trashing the guy in public - obviously because he has an ax to grind. His comments thus are meaningless.
 
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