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That average software has allowed me to be self-employed for the last decade and run my business without issue.

I suggest you give Microsoft Windows a try. Don't forget your annual Norton/McAffee/Whatever virus and malware scanner to keep your system safe!! ❤️
No, I wasn’t attacking macOS. Just pointing out that, no matter how good the hardware, the software shapes the user experience.

I’ve been using Macs for over 30 years. Windows as well at times, but I’d choose macOS over windows any day. Like you, I run a business on it.

There IS room for improvement. That’s not saying it is trash. It’s saying there’s room for improvement, and improvements in the software showcase what the hardware can do.

So, as the poster I was originally replying to said, even though Ternus seems to be thought of as a hardware guy, paying attention to the software is equally important.
 
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In no place does Apple refer to Cook’s position as executive chairman. I’m surprised how often this mistake has been made in coverage of this here. All of Apple’s PR pages and their governance documents consistently refer to it as chair. @arn
This is incorrect @TruthAboveAllElse

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No, I wasn’t attacking macOS. Just pointing out that, no matter how good the hardware, the software shapes the user experience.

I’ve been using Macs for over 30 years. Windows as well at times, but I’d choose macOS over windows any day. Like you, I run a business on it.

There IS room for improvement. That’s not saying it is trash. It’s saying there’s room gir improvement, and improvements in the software showcase what the hardware can do.

So, as the poster I was originally replying to said, even though Ternus seems to be thought if as a hardware guy, paying attention to the software is equally important.
That guy just got defensive real fast, assumed wrong and missed the point by a mile. It is what it is.
 
Waiting to see all the new category of products that will be launched under new CEO. To begin with, very excited to see the foldable.
 
No, I wasn’t attacking macOS. Just pointing out that, no matter how good the hardware, the software shapes the user experience.

I’ve been using Macs for over 30 years. Windows as well at times, but I’d choose macOS over windows any day. Like you, I run a business on it.

There IS room for improvement. That’s not saying it is trash. It’s saying there’s room for improvement, and improvements in the software showcase what the hardware can do.

So, as the poster I was originally replying to said, even though Ternus seems to be thought of as a hardware guy, paying attention to the software is equally important.
I don't know. I consider macOS an operating system. It's sole purpose is to make the hardware work and run my apps.

It has done so, without fault, for me, since I switched from Windows in 2008. I don't know where the hate comes from, maybe it's Liquid Glass. Maybe not. Maybe macOS has looked better in the past, maybe not. Maybe the corners were a different radius. Maybe not.

In the end it does what it's supposed to do.
 
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Meh. Ternus is a fair bit younger than Cook, that’s all.

They’re not actors or media celebrities, it’s not “Reality TV”, so the look of their physical features really shouldn’t be a factor in measuring competency for the role.

You shouldn’t really care if your dentist is physically good-looking or not.. It’s but a measure of how good a dentist they are.

I'm not talking about their physical appearance. I'm just talking about the expressions they used for those pictures.

And Cook is in fact taking a seat at the head of the table, where Ternus will be the protege for some time.

When you see two large pictures side by side the human brain naturally draws comparisons.
 
I don't know. I consider macOS an operating system. It's sole purpose is to make the hardware work and run my apps.

It has done so, without fault, for me, since I switched from Windows in 2008. I don't know where the hate comes from, maybe it's Liquid Glass. Maybe not. Maybe macOS has looked better in the past, maybe not. Maybe the corners were a different radius. Maybe not.

In the end it does what it's supposed to do.
Pretty much. They way I think of it, I don't actively look at the OK, I thought through to OS to what I'm actually doing. What I don't want is the OS to get in the way of what I'm doing.

System 7m OSX, MacOS etc has generally been much better at this, getting out of the way, than Windows.

Some of the hate is just to have something to say, the internet needs noise, and hate and grumbling is a way to fill the noise when there's no actual content.

I do think the yearly macOS version update does exasperate this, though, mainly because it isn't really a new version every year, it's more like a new macOS version every 2-4 years, but Apple wants to present a regular, yearly cycle.

So, what I mean is that, say Big Sur and Monterey were really the some version of macOS, but Big Sur was an early version. Going back through the years, you can see the same pattern. MacOS27 is going to be the "more finished" version of what MacOS26 was going for.

So I think the complaints come from people expecting that early iterations of a new cycle of macOS should be perfect and complete with every version, but software just doesn't work like that. So people complain about the early versions, and when that cycle is in it's final version, where everything is fully realised, people;s head explode the next year because the cycle starts again.

Thinking about an OS as a finished product is always going to be problematic, as this doesn't fit with the reality.

Personally, I'd be very happy if Apple went down the "Leopard / Snow Leopard road again, where one big yearly update is about new features and UI changes, and the next is only "under the hood" changes, but theindstry doesn't seem to work like this anymore. New releases every year, irrespective of whether they are ready to be released or not.

People want "new and innovative" every year, and they also want "perfectly executed". But I don't think it's possible to do that on a yearly release cycle.

The one thing I note on this site (and others), is that "the community" often has wildly unrealistic expectations.
 
Remember the day Jobs died, I went to the local Apple Store and put some flowers on the door. Today obviously is not the same but for some reason it saddened me.
 
I'm not talking about their physical appearance. I'm just talking about the expressions they used for those pictures.

And Cook is in fact taking a seat at the head of the table, where Ternus will be the protege for some time.

When you see two large pictures side by side the human brain naturally draws comparisons.
Then you are not talking about the people, or the pictures, you are talking about MacRumors and the decision of the article writer or editor who chose those particular pictures. Why did they decide on those particular photos?

And that's a very different thing.
 
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It'll be fun in a year when all the people who hate Cook will pivot to hating Ternus and start saying "Tim Cook Would Never".

No doubt in my mind about that. Sadly, many here need that empowering daily burst of publicly slagging on Apple and/or its leader. Apparently it feels good, and is a 20 year tradition.
 
Stoked.

Hopefully this means improved hardware and dramatically improved software, as well as product line consolidation.
 
What changes now? If John decides to shift priorities at Apple in a big way, how many years until we see Apple introducing products that never would have happened under Tim?
Just like when MR posters claimed in 2011 the Apple product pipeline was built by Steve and inherited by Tim, in 2026 John Apple inherited The Tim Cook pipeline.
 
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