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Jony Ive and Sam Altman Discuss AI Device That's Playful, Bite Worthy, and as Peaceful as a Cabin By a Lake
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Just skimming the article gave me a slight overdose of hipstery-new-agey-treehuggingy-sandals-wearingy bullcrap (extra layer of irony hearing it said by billionaires, who don't give half of a f**k about anything except money).
And as most of such bullcrap, definitely minimalistic-looking, rounded and extremely overpriced for what it is.
Can't imagine the horror of listening to that.
And as most of such bullcrap, definitely minimalistic-looking, rounded and extremely overpriced for what it is.
Can't imagine the horror of listening to that.
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When it comes to AI, the negativity is a very reasonable reaction to massive overspending of other people's money on something that does not have any clear path to a return on income.
A relatively small group of people vainly making decisions which result in an increase of prices across the board for everyone else tends to generate negativity.
Pipe-dreams, hobbies and indulgences are absolutely fine if the person is paying for them themselves. But that's not what's happening. There's a reason there have been significant increases in price of RAM, SSD chips, and GPUs. There will be a reason people retirement funds will lose value. There will be a reason why electricity prices will continue to increase. And the reason is indulging empty aspirational waffle and speculation in something that has yet to give any return on investment.
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Whatever those two are discussing, is incredibly vague first and foremost. Second, why I feel like the hardware is more of a vapourware than anything else? Third, by using their devices you “can go for a vibe that’s not walking through Time Square? So is that something that helps you zone out of real world and immerse yourself into the virtual universe? I’m sorry but if that’s the case, whatever device it is must be incredibly dangerous to use outside, even if somehow majority people using them. Staring at your phone walking outside today is already risky. Something that can immerse yourself out of your surroundings? Oh my god.
"you zone out of real world and immerse yourself into the virtual universe"? That sounds a hell of a lot more like a Vision Pro clone than any AI assistant.
From their talk, it really doesn't sound as if there is any product or even prototype. as you say, vaporware.
And personally, I think "zoning out and immersing yourself into the virtual universe" is one of the problems in the world today, not a solution to a problem.
This says it all, and how biased ChatGPT is on certain topics, just like a human would. In that regard I think they captured that aspect decently well.
I watched the video so you don't have to.
The fawning over San Francisco as though it's the only place in the world with creativity should be a big red flag that they're living in a bubble (along with their "cabin by a lake, in the mountains" example - thanks, billionaires).
Their complaint is that existing devices and apps demand too much of your attention, and they're going to make "this really smart AI that you trust to do things for you" and which has an "incredible contextual awareness of your whole life". Which means it's listening, all the time, to everything...
OK, but couldn't a smartphone or smart speaker be just as capable of doing that? And who'd trust Open AI to be listening to and storing everything about you?
When the investors who are currently shovelling billions of dollars at them want a return on their money, will the device stay out of your way and give you the peace of being in a "cabin by a lake, in the mountains", or will it start trying to upsell you like Amazon devices, or worse, will they start selling your data?
Jony Ive just seems like he's desperate to have the masses fawn over a new design of his (he approached Sam Altman, not the other way around), and I'm sure it'll be fun and look cool and people will buy it, but in essence it's a smart speaker for ChatGPT - it'll give you answers, whether they're true or not 🤷♂️
The fawning over San Francisco as though it's the only place in the world with creativity should be a big red flag that they're living in a bubble (along with their "cabin by a lake, in the mountains" example - thanks, billionaires).
Their complaint is that existing devices and apps demand too much of your attention, and they're going to make "this really smart AI that you trust to do things for you" and which has an "incredible contextual awareness of your whole life". Which means it's listening, all the time, to everything...
OK, but couldn't a smartphone or smart speaker be just as capable of doing that? And who'd trust Open AI to be listening to and storing everything about you?
When the investors who are currently shovelling billions of dollars at them want a return on their money, will the device stay out of your way and give you the peace of being in a "cabin by a lake, in the mountains", or will it start trying to upsell you like Amazon devices, or worse, will they start selling your data?
Jony Ive just seems like he's desperate to have the masses fawn over a new design of his (he approached Sam Altman, not the other way around), and I'm sure it'll be fun and look cool and people will buy it, but in essence it's a smart speaker for ChatGPT - it'll give you answers, whether they're true or not 🤷♂️
Vision Pro is awesome, thank you very much.
And no, the Vision Pro most certainly did not get hyped up like this by Apple execs giving vague and woolly descriptions completely devoid of any actual meaning two years before even showing the thing.
There was a lot of aspirational fluff around the Vision Pro launch too, to be fair. The difference was that there actually was a physical product as well as the aspirational fluff in the case of the Vision Pro, and a potential user could actually use the product and decide if they wanted it. In the case of Ives' / Altman's "whatever", it's all fluff and no product whatsoever.
you just can't forecast the future. airplanes/cellphones/computers. all unimaginable in the 19th century.
Come on, mate, it says "Collective" in the article. That always means it a group of pompous douches talking with pompous douches about pompous douchebaggery.
And considering it's tech billionaires involved - it will be yet another overpriced device with rounded corners and no reasonable use cases.
I didn't watch the video but I'm guessing Ive said the word 'profound' at least 3 times. It's his favourite word as he waffles on for minutes at a time not really saying anything about anything. Great designer but the usual designer BS to sell something is on an interplanetary level when it comes to Ive. 🤣 The transcript alone says absolutely nothing using a thousand words. 🤣
Spot-on. Sadly, it's a forum tradition, going back 24 years to when iPod was introduced. And just about every other new Apple product introduction since then.
iPod: "Who asked for a thousand songs in your pocket?" referring to Jobs' famous introduction.
iPhone: "Who asked for a non-mechanical keyboard?"
iPad: "It's just a big iPhone, who asked for that?"
Watch: "If I need to know the time I'll just look at my iPhone"
And on and on and on...
I guess it's a way for some people to feel good for a few minutes.
LOL agree. Just like I can’t look at Hugo Weaving without hearing, “Mr. Anderson”
Don't read much, do you?
Verne, Bellamy, Babbage - airplanes, cellphones, computers. All in 19th century.
Jony does his best work when he has a Dieter Rams book in front of him. Fixed it.
