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Looking forward what will come out of this collaboration though.
Ive's talent is more then a good case for an iPhone or something like that.

He’s good at bringing things into a suitable form, if he works with people with enough good minds.
 
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Let's kindly and smartly stop talking about rich lunatics

OpenAI's CEO Once Bragged About His Hoard of Guns and Gas Masks - Futurism

I truly believe we should send a bunch of these rich doomers, frauds and preppers to a remote island and let them Battle Royale themselves for our entertainment.

Then we won't have to deal with them wasting stupid amounts money and tons of electricity on their toys and eccentric lifestyles.
He says, polishing his beautiful machine.
 
Speaking for myself, I am more puzzled and disappointed by how the man who came up with the brilliant, innovative and fun Apple designs managed to paint himself into a corner with his obsession on thinness.

That is quite often the nature of truly brilliant people. The extremes that punctuate their brilliance usually accentuate their failures or setbacks.

Some people learn how to manage the two, but those people are few and far between. It takes the same level of emotional genius as intellectual genius to do it, and the two almost never accompany each other. Which is why it's so rare.

The greatest innovators of the industrial and postindustrial age all have their massive flops. You don't hit the target every time, and part of their genius is the willingness to run with what they think is an innovative idea and take the risks that come with failure.

The road to almost every success is paved with a 1000 failures.
 
Let's kindly and smartly stop talking about rich lunatics

OpenAI's CEO Once Bragged About His Hoard of Guns and Gas Masks - Futurism

I truly believe we should send a bunch of these rich doomers, frauds and preppers to a remote island and let them Battle Royale themselves for our entertainment.

Then we won't have to deal with them wasting stupid amounts money and tons of electricity on their toys and eccentric lifestyles.
So much weird anger.

It’s not your money…let it go. If all goes according to plan technology will allow us to live outrageously and keep healthy ecosystems. OpenAI is a company that might find that solution and consumption will be nearly irrelevant.
 
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Tim Cook wouldn't have been able to do this if he was CEO of Samsung. Tim is simply lifting of the success put in place by Jobs and Ive, who created the "Apple cult".

Take a look at the latest iPhone 15 Pro Max. All Tim Cook did was steal 2 super old Android features, yet the iPhone 15 Pro Max is now almost pushed back to December. It's only because of that Apple logo.

Even the analysts are shocked the iPhone 15 Pro Max is selling this crazy, because they also saw that the upgrade was not very good + inflation + people's savings are being slashed in the current economic climate. That is the power of the Apple logo that Steve Jobs and Johny Ive created.
Wow. Seriously? The CEO of the most valuable company in the world has no business skills? 😂😂😂
 
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I imagine a device that trashes you all day with small talk, but there will be no Off button since it did not fit the design.
 
Makes you wonder what they did these 10 years with Siri? Spending pennies?
I know this is a common sentiment, but Siri has nothing to do with artificial intelligence, as everything is human curated
 
It's hard to see what value a dedicated AI device would have over, say, a smartphone you already carry with you with AI

This feels like that Spotify Car Thing - why would anyone need it?
 
At the same time, you have epic fails like the 1st apple pencil charging port, the butterfly keyboard, or design aberrations like the magic mouse, which ironically is still being sold as is, after years from his departure 🤷🏼‍♂️.
The Magic Mouse and first gen Apple Pencil are still around. The butterfly keyboards are gone. Although, I think the first Apple Pencil will likely be gone soon. I hope they can come up with the a better mouse soon, probably something practical looking like the MacBook Pro.

It was his designs that eliminated I/O features on MacBooks: USB-A, SD Card slot and the ability to have more than four ports. That’s what got him pushed out of Apple was immense customer dissatisfaction with product design from 2016 until his departure. Steve would keep him in check when he was designing products, Tim had too much faith in Jony’s ability to lead himself and team. Tim doesn’t have a micromanager style like Steve, he allows these teams to lead themselves. If he has to get involved, it has to be a dire situation; which he’s now had two: Jony and Scott.
 
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Simplicity, creativity, complexity, fun and for a great cause. Another product design by Sir Jony.

Red Nose Day 2023

How can people keep hating on him? Unbelievable.



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I agree form over function sometimes went too far under his leadership, but, he was one of the few passionate product people, among so many salesman executives Apple is filled with today.

In addition to that, some products were truly great, like the 12" MB (with a proper keyboard), the iMacs, the MBA wedge design (or iPhone 5S), which to this day feels fresh vs the chunky (& notch) M2 MBA. At the same time, you have epic fails like the 1st apple pencil charging port, the butterfly keyboard, or design aberrations like the magic mouse, which ironically is still being sold as is, after years from his departure 🤷🏼‍♂️.
I'm with this one.

I remember back when I first got the retina MBP, I would use it and pause for a minute or so, just to admire the device. What a beautiful laptop.

The designs he came up with post Steve era were quite flawed, yet I can tell the products were still made with passion.

The M1 devices were a marvel from hardware engineering perspective, but design-wise it lacked the identity that made people fell in love in the first place.

I know the number speaks otherwise - under Tim Apple sold like crazy and became a trillion dollar company. But personally I would like to see Ive come back and made beautiful devices again. If not with Apple, then so be it.
 
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Ive was "simplicity, screw functionality". He should have been "a reasonable balance of function and simplicity".

The problem was that Ive was a bridge builder (mechanical designer) and did not apparently understand the limitations his designs were imposing on the product's functionality. Jobs was the only person that could force Ive to be reasonable. Then after Jobs left no one could counter Ive's power at Apple.
The best photographers were not always the best printers or editors (in the heady days of film).

Artists need someone in their life, an editor (or even muse) of sorts, who understands the practical aspect.
 
I was being sincere. I really appreciate that sort of investigatory intelligence. And we get it, you love J.I. It is well understood by now.
Thats a bit strong. I admire him for what he brought to tech design and design in general. He is an artist who worked with computers because he hit it off with Jobs. He has also done furniture, recently he’s done turntables, and the list goes on and on.

He changed beige to class. He follows the Ten Principles for Good Design by Dieter Rams,

Good design:
  1. is innovative
  2. makes a product useful
  3. is aesthetic
  4. makes a product understandable
  5. is unobtrusive
  6. is honest
  7. is long-lasting
  8. is thorough down to the last detail
  9. is environmentally friendly
  10. is as little as possible
These are his principles. It doesn’t have to be perfect.
 
Tim Cook wouldn't have been able to do this if he was CEO of Samsung. Tim is simply lifting of the success put in place by Jobs and Ive, who created the "Apple cult".

Take a look at the latest iPhone 15 Pro Max. All Tim Cook did was steal 2 super old Android features, yet the iPhone 15 Pro Max is now almost pushed back to December. It's only because of that Apple logo.

Even the analysts are shocked the iPhone 15 Pro Max is selling this crazy, because they also saw that the upgrade was not very good + inflation + people's savings are being slashed in the current economic climate. That is the power of the Apple logo that Steve Jobs and Johny Ive created.

And you think the legendary Steve Jobs, whom you praised twice, personally chose a poor successor?
 
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And you think the legendary Steve Jobs, whom you praised twice, personally chose a poor successor?
Jumping in here...yes, I do. I do not think Jobs was thinking on the same level during the end of his life. Why on earth would he have a penny pinching Ops guy take over for him. It makes no sense. He should've chosen someone who was huge on making great products and also huge on design. He ended up choosing someone who was nothing like him. When you are on the trajectory that Jobs created, you do not change course mid-voyage. Sure, Apple is the world's top company, but their products are boring and innovation has all but ceased. I'm a shareholder but I'd still rather see someone running the company who was more like Jobs.
 
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It'll look like something you'd find at a garage sale but with shiny new paint and rounded corners. And of course, it'll cost $500,000 so they'll only make 1.
Don't forget that many of the the companies we now know of started in their garage :)
 
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