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Jony Ive Once Insisted on Apple Car Without a Steering Wheel
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Lol, seriously??!!!
Even Samsung does business with Apple & they are bitter enemies.
Jony & Tim are dear friends, but Jony’s New design firm will snub Apple as a client and refuse to take work from them?
Ok, bud.
Tell ya what... if you’re right: I’ll eat my hat!
Freedom is much more important than safety.
Seriously, why stop at the driverless car? We should all stay at home and work via home office. Or even better: let AI do the work for us. If AI can drive my car, then it could do your office stuff as well. Or most any other job for that matter.
We could totally minimise transport, which would be good for the environment. And without much human interaction the flu season would become drastically shorter.
Physical work could also be achieved by robots.
So many benefits. I see a fantastic future in which, freed by responsibilities, I can finally use 100 % of my concentration on social media.
I hope they also ban all the dangerous sports: Skiing should only be allowed on shallow indoor slopes (also environmental benefits).
Biking only in the home gym please via VR Goggles - the same applies for Jogging
And then the real dangerous stuff. Hobbies: ban all the drones. And all the radio controlled airplanes and helicopters, too. We are just not responsible enough to operate those.
Seriously, you all need to start having life and get l..d more often.
Keep in mine that supplying parts for competitors is not the same thing as collaborating on product design. Two very different animals.
Also, the well connected and informed John Gruber happens to agree with me in that he doesn't believe Apple will colab with Ive, "It just isn't Apple"
You can watch the video of this discussion between Rene Riche and John Gruber if you would like, here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwwbP2Kcc2s …
HAVE A NICE DAY!
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LEVELS OF AUTOMATION WHO DOES WHAT, WHEN
Level 0 The human driver does all the driving.
Level 1 An advanced driver assistance system (ADAS) on the vehicle can sometimes assist the human driver with either steering or braking/accelerating, but not both simultaneously.
Level 2 An advanced driver assistance system (ADAS) on the vehicle can itself actually control both steering and braking/accelerating simultaneously under some circumstances. The human driver must continue to pay full attention (“monitor the driving environment”) at all times and perform the rest of the driving task.
Level 3 An Automated Driving System (ADS) on the vehicle can itself perform all aspects of the driving task under some circumstances. In those circumstances, the human driver must be ready to take back control at any time when the ADS requests the human driver to do so. In all other circumstances, the human driver performs the driving task.
Level 4 An Automated Driving System (ADS) on the vehicle can itself perform all driving tasks and monitor the driving environment – essentially, do all the driving – in certain circumstances. The human need not pay attention in those circumstances.
Level 5 An Automated Driving System (ADS) on the vehicle can do all the driving in all circumstances. The human occupants are just passengers and need never be involved in driving.
Level 5 cars don't need steering wheels.
Siri, take me home.
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I've never watched that show. In fact, I don’t watch much of modern day TV at all. So what exactly was funny about my statement?
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What is your point, and why do you boast of putting people on an ignore list? I never censor people, including those that disagree with me or even call me names. I despise censorship. Aren’t leftists supposed to be liberal, meaning open minded and tolerant?
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Yep. And I can argue level 5 is already here. It is just so much legal and regulatory hurdles before it can really take off.
On the first point. Industrial designers can concept any product. That's not unusual. Some may be more specialised but from a training point of view any Industrial Designer should be able to mock up a concept of a product for mass production and consumption, but veering into engineering decisions, that requires a good team with a broad spectrum of specialisations, complimentary and overlapping.
On the second, I agree. You need someone who knows what they don't want who can assert editorial control. I don't think Tim has that naturally and I'm not going to fault him for that because very very few people have this ability. Plus, no CEO has the same set of attributes. Perhaps the most important attribute is knowing how to get the best out of people and that is maybe lacking.
In this brave new rainbow coloured world where everyone is a victim and you might offend someone, well that's a impossible task.
I don't think Steve suffered from any fears on that front.
If something is ****/junk, then call it out - (yea it's not always right but, most times it will be right enough, you need that at the top if it's not embedded in a similar creative process and even then you still often need that critical eye and to work in the reverse, dig out something that has been cast off as trivial and turn it into something multi-billion dollar!) - point is you move on to another try or better path etc. etc. it's not that hard to concept up stuff quickly and that's the fun, pairing things back until you find the final form/design that works.
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I did call it some years ago here, that Apple Campus was a real and unacknowledged drag on the company. I really do still believe it was the source of a lot of the complaints people have on hear about Mac Pro, MacBook and so on.
I think that "pipeline" was coded works for "as soon as Apple Campus iOS finished... " like all self builds, they tend to go over budget and the rest!
I'm sure his ego helped to dig the hole he found himself in. It's a pity. A good CEO might have reigned that back in but Steve left off on this, his last appearance at the Council meeting to petition or represent the project. However there was a lot of change and this project was long running, and I guess it might have seemed like a design opp for Ive, somewhat like the kid in the candy store.
Where were the parents?
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The point is the idiot wasn’t even able to design properly usable relatively simple devices since his editor and minder Jobs passed away. To think the idiot should then be allowed to have say over something much more complicated like a car, is beyond ridiculous.
Ha Ha, sure Buddy. And we could have flying cars in 1971 already. It’s all a conspiracy. BMW paid off the government because they are behind Tesla’s development curve
Ha Ha, sure Buddy. And we could have flying cars in 1971 already. It’s all a conspiracy. BMW paid off the government because they are behind Tesla’s development curve
Not sure what you talking about. With technology advancement on the current time and how quickly it will reach singularity, you would be completely tunnel vision to not see what is ahead. Level 5 Autonomy is already among us, open your eyes.
Again: Level 5 An Automated Driving System (ADS) on the vehicle can do all the driving in all circumstances. The human occupants are just passengers and need never be involved in driving.
I frankly think you are a bit too “optimistic” in your assessment of the situation.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/5/2...enting-not-driving-private-space-orix-times24
What else do you do with a space when you don’t have a destination? I think that redesigning the car with autonomy will optimize for these other use cases in urban areas especially.
What else do you do with a space when you don’t have a destination? I think that redesigning the car with autonomy will optimize for these other use cases in urban areas especially.
Oh, Jesus....
Luddite much???
Pretending like people excited about a safer driving future w/ 50%+ of the cars on the road being self driving must not be getting laid is bizarre & silly.
I mean... I’m glad you driving your crappy car makes you feel virile for some weird reason, I guess.
Your wild leap from “boy, self-driving cars will be great... safer, cheaper insurance, more time to spend doing things I love” to “I’m afraid of watersports or piloting a toy drone” is super disingenuous & has zero footing in reality.
Don’t take this wrong... as, it sounds like we’re both super jazzed about the future; but level 5 is the ability to drive autonomously absolutely anywhere, under any conditions. Sadly, we aren’t there yet... completely unsure what you think you know about this industry that all the rest of us don’t.
My son is an AI researcher. (Actually, I just found his passport for him... big AI safety symposium in Blackpool this month!). At any rate: there is rampant speculation amongst leading researchers w/ regards to singularity. Some say 5 years, some say 50... nobody knows.
So, as a layman... using the phrase “and how quickly it will reach singularity” is based on nothing more than your hopes, with nothing to back it up whatsoever.
Again, don’t mean to sound harsh- but as proselytizers for an awesome AI future, I think it’s just as important to not make wild unfounded claims, as it is to not be a depressing gloom & doom naysayer.
Are you serious, remove the steering wheel? I cant believe you Millennials actual believe this is a good idea. I mean, you'd have to be born in the digital age to think this is a good idea right? I know that any self respecting gear head is throwing up in their mouth right now at the though of this asinine idea.
I currently own a 2013 SS Camaro with 450 horsepower. This beast screams down the street and is a blast to drive at the local street racing track. Pure power, pure muscle, pure adrenaline. I can't imagine a time when I CAN'T (or I'm not allowed to) drive a car, what FUN is that? Driving is a hobby. It's fun. it's relaxing and it's also very therapeutic. I know that a long drive with the stereo blasting is a great way for me to chill out after a hard day, removing the steering wheel kills all the fun in cars.
Once we can't drive cars they stop being a gateway to freedom and simply become boring public transportation. I have no desire to give up my freedom and a car represents that, FREEDOM. Just like a cowboy and his horse, I roam the American west in my beast of car. I drive fast, I use a ton of gas and I pay for every cent.
You can pry my steering wheel out of my cold, dead hands.
I currently own a 2013 SS Camaro with 450 horsepower. This beast screams down the street and is a blast to drive at the local street racing track. Pure power, pure muscle, pure adrenaline. I can't imagine a time when I CAN'T (or I'm not allowed to) drive a car, what FUN is that? Driving is a hobby. It's fun. it's relaxing and it's also very therapeutic. I know that a long drive with the stereo blasting is a great way for me to chill out after a hard day, removing the steering wheel kills all the fun in cars.
Once we can't drive cars they stop being a gateway to freedom and simply become boring public transportation. I have no desire to give up my freedom and a car represents that, FREEDOM. Just like a cowboy and his horse, I roam the American west in my beast of car. I drive fast, I use a ton of gas and I pay for every cent.
You can pry my steering wheel out of my cold, dead hands.
It does come with 1 wheel. It's a spare tire though. You have to upgrade to iCar S to get tires.
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Triggered Millenial: "you hurt my feelings! I want a law to ban this type of comment and also want a Participation Trophy" lol