Jony Ive Once Insisted on Apple Car Without a Steering Wheel

[psingh01]

I like driving myself. Hopefully there will never be a day where a steering wheel and normal driving aren’t premium options.

 

[VictorTango777]

All seats will be permanently molded to fit Ive's own body.
Replacing anything such as light bulbs, wiper blades, tires, brake pads or windows will require replacing half of the car.
Battery will be glued to the car.

 

[mac_in_tosh]

I've always thought Ive was more hyperbole than anything else.

 

[MallardDuck]

Hey Siri, turn right.

Ok the lights are on.
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All seats will be permanently molded to fit Ive's own body.
Replacing anything such as light bulbs, wiper blades, tires, brake pads or windows will require replacing half of the car.
Battery will be glued to the car.

Naw, all those things will be optionally attached via dongles.

 

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

I think the first few generations of self driving cars should have some form human controls. At least from my pov

I know I won't be comfortable without at least an illusion of control.

You don't undo 20+ years as a driver (and worse, backseat driver!!) in one day!

We're actually a few generations (or levels) into automated cars already. Many manufacturers are at Level 2, and even into Level 3, already (and I think some drivers think we're at level 4 already):

• Level 0: Automated system issues warnings and may momentarily intervene but has no sustained vehicle control.

• Level 1 ("hands on"): The driver and the automated system share control of the vehicle. Examples are systems where the driver controls steering and the automated system controls engine power to maintain a set speed (Cruise Control) or engine and brake power to maintain and vary speed (Adaptive Cruise Control or ACC); and Parking Assistance, where steering is automated while speed is under manual control. The driver must be ready to retake full control at any time. Lane Keeping Assistance (LKA) Type II is a further example of level 1 self-driving.

• Level 2 ("hands off"): The automated system takes full control of the vehicle (accelerating, braking, and steering). The driver must monitor the driving and be prepared to intervene immediately at any time if the automated system fails to respond properly. The shorthand "hands off" is not meant to be taken literally. In fact, contact between hand and wheel is often mandatory during SAE 2 driving, to confirm that the driver is ready to intervene.

• Level 3 ("eyes off"): The driver can safely turn their attention away from the driving tasks, e.g. the driver can text or watch a movie. The vehicle will handle situations that call for an immediate response, like emergency braking. The driver must still be prepared to intervene within some limited time, specified by the manufacturer, when called upon by the vehicle to do so.

• Level 4 ("mind off"): As level 3, but no driver attention is ever required for safety, e.g. the driver may safely go to sleep or leave the driver's seat. Self-driving is supported only in limited spatial areas (geofenced) or under special circumstances, like traffic jams. Outside of these areas or circumstances, the vehicle must be able to safely abort the trip, e.g. park the car, if the driver does not retake control.

• Level 5 ("steering wheel optional"): No human intervention is required at all. An example would be a robotic taxi.

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Now, when we're reaching Level 5 is still in question, but I don't think we're that far off, really...

 

[Jimmy James]

Terrible idea. Just terrible. I don’t care what the reasoning was. Terrible. Did I say terrible?

 

[Tonewheel]

All seats will be permanently molded to fit Ive's own body.
Replacing anything such as light bulbs, wiper blades, tires, brake pads or windows will require replacing half of the car.
Battery will be glued to the car.

That will be one wide seat to fit one wide....

 

[Roadstar]

No need to worry! If you don't trust Siri, you can buy a completely symmetrical wireless steering wheel inspired by the Apple TV remote for just $999. How do you know you picked it up in the right orientation? You'll find out soon enough.

If it's still a thousand no's for every yes, this one accumulated at least 500 extra no's.

 

[PCMA]

Everyone makes mistakes.

 

[Nicksd84]

Easy to make fun of in a vacuum. Wood car would be uhhh... interesting though.

 

[Chazz08]

Am I the only one who kept reading it as “I’ve” and got really confused as to the author’s involvement with Apple? Haha.

 

[Minxy]

Jony had a lot of good ideas.. but having Siri control a car isn't one of them...

I came to say the same thing! He’s a designer genius but he certainly overestimated the power of Siri. It’s ability to mis-hear is so consistent it’s bordering on broken.

 

[BornAgainMac]

In GTA, I just use arrow keys.

 

[itsamacthing]

And... jumped the shark

 

[InuNacho]

The Flinstones had a wooden car. Was Ive also thinking of making phones made of coconuts and sand?

 

[LiveM]

Anyone with lots of good ideas had 10x more bad ideas. That's how good ideas come to fruition.

As Apple's own video once explained, for every "yes", there are a thousands "no's". Or something to that effect.

In other words, AI could do it better.
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The Flinstones had a wooden car. Was Ive also thinking of making phones made of coconuts and sand?

THIS is a car that doesn’t need a steering wheel.

 

[Spacetime Anomaly]

Other manufacturers would heavily advertise how they still have a steering wheel, then remove it quietly in their next version.

 

[mscice]

seems apple TOP is slowly over ... time to slide down and allow other companies take over...

I do miss Steve Jobs, during his timeframe apple was best! we have seen no innovation last 5 years ... and they removed many great things

-magsafe
-headphone jack

-**** keyboards they cant fix last 3 years come on!

 

[skitidetdu]

It could be awesome, i don’t think it would be the traditional way of communicating with Siri that would drive the car. If all cars could communicate with each other through AI this would be truly self driving but predicting people in traffic is a lot more difficult if not to say impossible. Siri as a smart AI would pull it of...but Siri is light years from being that smart.

 

[Alffa]

Kimi Räikkönen would not like this.

Spoiler

 

[MacWorld78]

For the life out of me, I cannot trust autopilot car to drive for me due software bug(s)

I just want pure electric car but no software and no 5G network please

 

[sirozha]

It seems clear that Ive has never used Siri in real life.

They have actresses pretending to be Siri connected to Apple execs’ phones. That’s the reason that Siri hasn’t been scrapped yet.

 

[mooeymoose]

A car without a steering wheel is not a crazy idea and it will be a part of car design on a not too distant future.

I'm 100% for re-evaluating what it done and many things are simply done out of habit but a car without a sterling wheel is nothing I will ever buy for 3 reasons. To me life is a balance of art/science or logic/emotion. 1) Driving is fun and exciting and keeps us connected to the art and emotion aspect of life. 2) I believe as humans we need to use technology to make us better and not relinquish or unlearn skills because we are lazy. The day a kid can grow up and never have to learn to drive will be a mistake. We should be learning and doing more and not use tech to compensate for our human laziness. 3) There will always be situations where the machine will fail and not having the option to take over will be a bad idea.

While, I agree that in the some cars will not have a sterling wheel those will be for the Lazy, dumb and lower class fools that what to follow every stop sign, traffic light, speed limit etc. For the humans that want to be the crazy ones that change the world, well we will have sterling wheels.

 

[nStyle]

All cars will have the option for no steering wheels...but it will require full autonomous capability.

I'm 100% for re-evaluating what it done and many things are simply done out of habit but a car without a sterling wheel is nothing I will ever buy for 3 reasons. To me life is a balance of art/science or logic/emotion. 1) Driving is fun and exciting and keeps us connected to the art and emotion aspect of life. 2) I believe as humans we need to use technology to make us better and not relinquish or unlearn skills because we are lazy. The day a kid can grow up and never have to learn to drive will be a mistake. We should be learning and doing more and not use tech to compensate for our human laziness. 3) There will always be situations where the machine will fail and not having the option to take over will be a bad idea.

While, I agree that in the some cars will not have a sterling wheel those will be for the Lazy, dumb and lower class fools that what to follow every stop sign, traffic light, speed limit etc. For the humans that want to be the crazy ones that change the world, well we will have sterling wheels.

How do you misspell "steering" that many times? haha. And the only "changing" that people are doing by driving is changing our environment for the worse.

I agree that driving can be fun and it might suck if nothing better replaces it (highly unlikely), but it's not necessary for humans to thrive. If anything, it's much safer and the elimination of us having to put so much mental effort towards it frees us up to think about better things.

And let's get real, most people do not drive for fun. Most people are sitting in bumper to bumper traffic on their way to a soul sucking job.

 

[Abazigal]

I like driving myself. Hopefully there will never be a day where a steering wheel and normal driving aren’t premium options.

I do wonder if we will see a day when humans will only be allowed to drive on a racing track because they are deemed too unsafe for normal roads compared to AI.