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We have clearance Clarance :p

Copy that, over your vector, Victor.
Surely we can take off now, Roger. :cool:

I'm going to wait for the farsighted model.

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Even if this is true, we already know they aren't adhering to it verbatim. If they were, the iPad mini wouldn't exist...

Because Jobs never changed his mind on anything? He was already "very receptive" to the idea according to Eddy Cue, shortly after the first iPad launched. Jobs rant against 7" tablets was a completely different class of tablet than what the iPad mini is. Blown up smartphone apps versus full size iPad apps. If the iPads UI was shrunk down to 7", everything would have become too small and unusable. Which is exactly what Jobs said. That's why the Mini is about 8". Yes, that extra inch makes a difference. 35% more surface area difference. Most importantly, the iPad user interface remains above Apples human interface guidelines for minimum tap target sizes.
 
I'm sorry but why would the masses be interested in either a tiny screen or a giant watch (those are pretty much your two options IMO) when we have phones/tablets that do everything we need now at reasonably portable sizes?

I can see that battery issues could easily be overcome with a standby 'watch-only mode' but yes, really - an iWatch? It smacks of 'what's left to i-ify?'

Next up for the rumour mill will be the iGlasses and the iHat.
 
I can see that battery issues could easily be overcome with a standby 'watch-only mode' but yes, really - an iWatch? It smacks of 'what's left to i-ify?'

Next up for the rumour mill will be the iGlasses and the iHat.
And yet the tech world had a collective boner over Google Glass. :D
 
I dont want an iWatch.. Please Jony, don't do this.

Apple need to do a major stock buy back so they aren't working for the investors - go back to their roots and get back into the professionals work.

I'm fed up of everyone and their dog owning a damn iDevice and thinking they are superior when they are just sheeple.
 
I can't help but think about the old Dick Tracy comics and his famous "radio watch".
That was such a cool concept, yet this current imagining blows that away.

Oh, and @Rogifan ...

It seems when the iPod, iPhone and iPad came out there were the same skeptics claiming it was a bad idea and would fail. Here's an example of what was written about previous Apple devices (h/t The Macalope)

“Why the iPhone Will Fail” (Al Ries for AdAge in June of 2007).

“Why the Apple phone will fail, and fail badly” (Bill Ray for the Register in December of 2006).

“Apple iPhone Will Fail in a Late, Defensive Move” (Matthew Lynn for Bloomberg in January of 2007).

"The Apple phone flop” (Michael Kanellos for CNet in December of 2006).

“Open spectrum is why the iPhone will fail” (Dana Blankenhorn for ZDNet in June of 2007).

“Why Apple’s rumored iTablet will fail big time” (Randall Kennedy for InfoWorld in December of 2009).

“Why the iPad will fail to win significant market share” (Donovan Colbert for TechRepublic in February of 2010).

“Don’t Bet on Apple’s Tablet” (Scott Moritz interviewed by TheStreet in November of 2009).

"Rumored Apple Tablet Is a Train Wreck” (Michael Scalisi for PC World in July of 2009)

Thank you for sharing these old snippets!
 
Few really care what Mr. Ive bought in bulk a decade ago. Nor does the bulk purchase imply anything beyond there was an interest a while back in Sony watches.

No the exact opposite. There was at least interest to build an Apple watch because the head of product design was examining other products. Seems pretty concrete to me that Apple is/was exploring the idea. Does that mean the product will see the light of day? Not definitely, but they probably have a couple working prototypes at least
 
No the exact opposite. There was at least interest to build an Apple watch because the head of product design was examining other products. Seems pretty concrete to me that Apple is/was exploring the idea. Does that mean the product will see the light of day? Not definitely, but they probably have a couple working prototypes at least

Or maybe they were investigating functionality and comfort of the watch with the intent to create accessories for whatever that iPod is you can wear as watch..

Or maybe me Ive liked the design and drew inspiration from it maybe it interface or whatever and wanted to see what his team though.

Maybe they were investigating plastics to use as bumpers or accessories and the watch band was made from what they had selected and wanted to try it in real life..

These are just three things I can think of off the top of my head that have nothing to do with making a watch.

Watches seem to be where the puck is not where its going to be, if you look at the people commenting on these threads those of us that do wear a watch are in the minority and most likely wouldn't buy the Apple watch anyway.
 
What a waste of fracking "time" , how about concentrating on COMPUTERS, remember them ? We need a surface style ipad/tablet device and new mac pro for starters........

YOU need. Let everyone else speak for him/herself

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I still like the idea that iWatch is actually the Apple produced TV product and not a watch at all.

Of course it is. This is the iTime

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I think Apple's watch will be here soon, I think it'll be Apple's answer to Google Glass

For now. Eventually they will likely do a glasses piece.

But rather like releasing the phone first cause folks were used to carrying a phone around, a watch is likely the more comfortable piece to start folks with.

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It was 4 years, and we are 1.5 years into that.

"He has also been overseeing the development of the delayed iCloud project, which will allow Apple users to store their music, photos and other documents remotely and masterminding updated versions of the iPod, iPad, iPhone and MacBooks, ensuring at least four years’ worth of products are in the pipeline, according to Apple sources"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...plans-4-years-new-products.html#ixzz2McNc1SAg

Not an official statement. Truth could be less or more

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Even if this is true, we already know they aren't adhering to it verbatim. If they were, the iPad mini wouldn't exist...

Or it would. Comments have been made by Eddy Cue that he approached Steve on the issue of a smaller iPad having a market. Steve enjoyed folks challenging him if they could back up their side. Perhaps Eddy could and convinced him before he left and the iPad Mini was in the plan
 
You have to stop walking to look at your phone and pick up a call?

Normally, yes... I have it pretty deep in my jacket pocket to prevent people snatching it, and the phone itself is in a neoprene case so I need to open 2 zippers and some velcro to get to it :) A smartwatch is really much handier for this.

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For now. Eventually they will likely do a glasses piece.

But rather like releasing the phone first cause folks were used to carrying a phone around, a watch is likely the more comfortable piece to start folks with.

I agree, and I am very interested in Google Glass as well (and even more so if Apple makes their version of it). But I agree it's not really ready for mainstream yet.
 
That's the number given on the front page of MacRumors quoting Bloomberg. Of course your data and analysis of world markets must be more authoritative than Bloomberg's. :p

If you're taking the word of bloomberg (can't find that alleged number on this site) over worldwide market industry numbers stating the total market for watches (from mass market to luxury) comprised of comprehensive analytics from the US, Canada, Japan, Asia-Pacific, Middle East and Latin America that projects the market to grow to $46 billion in 2017, then we, madame, have reached an impasse.
 
Did he order watches in the mid 2000s or did he recently order watches manufactured in the mid 2000s?

I thought the exact same thing. I'm still trying to make sense of that bit of the article, and I just can't. It should be written a little more clearly.
 
If Apple is working on a watch in 2013 then the company really has lost its way and the product pipeline wasn't nearly as deep as people thought Jobs left it.

I'm sorry but why would the masses be interested in either a tiny screen or a giant watch (those are pretty much your two options IMO) when we have phones/tablets that do everything we need now at reasonably portable sizes?

Apple fans with disposable income would probably buy it, but I agree with the experienced watchmaker in an earlier post about the relevancy of watches today. I just don't agree that there is an opportunity for a product to replace it.

I am a long time Apple user, own a plethora of products and was even a shareholder with a fairly significant amount invested at one point, but I wonder about the current direction (or lack there of) at Apple these days. I hope they blow me away and wow Apple users old and new, but I am losing confidence.

No one is currently doing anything interesting with watches and the market appears to have peaked long ago. But if that's true, wouldn't that make it a good opportunity for reinvention? That has been typical Apple: take a languishing product or market that everyone else has dismissed as irrelevant, and then revolutionalize it. Then own the new market since whatever initial competition there is will be half-hearted or caught flat-footed.

Before Apple, MP3 players were clunky and unappealing, and phones weren't all that smart and tended to look like Blackberries. Microsoft had given up on their tablet/slate ideas. No companies seemed to have any vision for these products until Apple jumped in. Now phones all look like iPhones and tablets all look like iPads.

Linking a watch to a cell phone might be a interesting idea. Who knows? What is known is that no one's seriously doing anything like this yet. Sounds like a ripe, untapped opportunity to me. Isn't that what entrepeneurs look for? If Apple does develop one, who knows what creative and cool things developers and users will dream up for it? The watch could be a slave to the phone and also have its own apps in the store. I know I've never seen a watch with a touch screen before.

We always make the mistake of dismissing ideas because we can't imagine how we or anyone else would use it. I'm sure the guy who invented the wheel got dubious looks from the first people he showed it to.
 
Few really care what Mr. Ive bought in bulk a decade ago. Nor does the bulk purchase imply anything beyond there was an interest a while back in Sony watches.

In your original post you asked what the point was. The point is that Apple have the capability and possibly the willingness to act to bring a watch product to market. You do not. That is my point... nothing else. And I know many people on these forums are interested in an Apple watch and are therefore interested in the fact that Ive was examining another company's product
 
Have we even reached the mid 2000s yet? Wouldn't the mid 2000s be somewhere around 2050, that being approximately half way between 2000 and 2100?

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What a waste of fracking "time" , how about concentrating on COMPUTERS, remember them ? We need a surface style ipad/tablet device and new mac pro for starters........

Why would anyone need a 'surface' style iPad? If you want a surface style tablet buy a fracking Surface.

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As a Certified Master Watchmaker, I can attest to major changes in the way watches are perceived. Just since the 90's when Rolex and others of that level sold everything they could produce, the market has changed. Watches are unitaskers. They tell the time. A 100k$ Swiss watch may tell you the phase of the moon and the time in Moscow but it's still a time instrument. Watchmaking is retreating to the high ground as manufacturing technology make sever fancier models possible at ever more extravagant prices. But watch purchases are declining. it's a piece of jewelry to most who still wear them. Most people who wear a five-figure watch will check the time on their smartphones. One client came in with his fancy calendar watch and joked that he had been wearing it for two weeks before he noticed it had stopped working.

There is a market for something new and better. A wrist data center would open up a whole new market that others can only scratch at. If Apple is working on such a product, I think the time is just about right for it. Like the iPhone, there will be a discovery process of customer and manufacturer learning what is possible and what is wanted. But the time is coming soon.

True, but there is nothing like a fine mechanical watch.

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Still cant compete with this!

I still have one of those in a box with a lot of other watches I've owned over the years.
 
In your original post you asked what the point was. The point is that Apple have the capability and possibly the willingness to act to bring a watch product to market. You do not. That is my point... nothing else. And I know many people on these forums are interested in an Apple watch and are therefore interested in the fact that Ive was examining another company's product

And my original point was just because Mr. Ive bought watches a decade ago doesn't mean Apple was/is working on a watch. It simply means that something interested him.
 
Not sure why Jony Ive needs to order Nike watches, Dieter Rams designed a number of watches for Braun. Like this one for example.

Has Rams tired of being copied?
 
Well we know people haven't tired of the lame Ive copies Braun meme. ;)

Well, it's true.
Or do you think it's just a coincidence that a lot of Ive's designs looks a lot like what Rams designed?

So, maybe Rams got angry when Ive got knighted, or when Apple paid for the Swiss clock design... Not sure if Rams or Braun ever got anything from having the designs copied by Ive.
 
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