Not sure how Jony bagged these four as it's one thing to design computers but a whole other ballgame when it comes to designing other people's widgets.
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Jony Ive Recruited Four Former Apple Design Colleagues to 'LoveFrom'
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Translation: toxic work environment.
Apple designers have a pretty good gig as far as pay/benefits. If designers are leaving Apple to work for Ive on Apple stuff, it’s because LoveFrom provides a buffer from Apple’s corporate management hierarchy and workplace issues.
Tim Cook needs to put Apple corporate on a strict diet. Cupertino has become very bloated and soggy around the mid section.
That’s probably the most pronounced difference since Steve Jobs in Apple’s DNA. Unfortunately that increased personnel fat layer, is also the #1 killer of innovative companies in any industry.
Yep to fill the world with terrible design.
Check out this gem. take all function out of the Leica camera for the sake of form.
Jony Ive-Designed Leica Prototype May Fetch Over $200,000 at Auction
This prototype might not even function, but is still expected to draw a considerable sum.
Yep. great design there.
I find myself automatically reaching for one of those airplane sick bags each time I hear the name of that company.
Yes.
But there is a not so subtle dig in the name as well.
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Tim,
Tired by daily Apple’s corporate politics, so moving somewhere else and buying a nice house.
Happy to work with you on new products… from a distance… and at double the $ rate.
Love from,
Jony
Yep to fill the world with terrible design.
Check out this gem. take all function out of the Leica camera for the sake of form.
Jony Ive-Designed Leica Prototype May Fetch Over $200,000 at Auction
This prototype might not even function, but is still expected to draw a considerable sum.petapixel.com
Yep. great design there.
I have no idea why people laud Ive as a great "designer".
Design is every bit as much about how something works as how it looks.
Most things he's had a hand in designing interact with and function with humans -- horribly.
All he really does is make everything smooth, feature less, minimalist, etc -- to a fault.
That's not great "design".
He'd really excel at just designing concept cars and/or other products never meant to actually make it to market, but rather just "look cool".
Imagine the conversation dropping at the bar... "Yeah, I was the guy that designed the iCloud icon."
Terrific. Maybe now we can get slightly thicker devices with actually decent battery life.
would kinda love if at some point Apple revealed that LoveFrom was a ruse and a shell company of sorts, dreamt up to shield Ive and his team while they worked on a really secret project…
It would be quite Jobsian, like the revelation that Apple had OS X running on Intel chips for years as a kind of insurance policy.
As the adage goes, his designs have been both original and great. Unfortunately it's too often the case that the designs that were great were not original, and the designs that were original are not great.
@orbital~debris
Please don't just "downvote" (god I hate that function on this website)
Please tell the forum what you disagree with in my comment that you "disliked"
What products that Ive has been a part of "function great"?
I don't mean "look great" or "super cool" -- I mean actually work really well as a result of the design?
Please don't just "downvote" (god I hate that function on this website)
Please tell the forum what you disagree with in my comment that you "disliked"
What products that Ive has been a part of "function great"?
I don't mean "look great" or "super cool" -- I mean actually work really well as a result of the design?
It’s almost always less expensive to outsource.
Jony and all the people needed to support his tasks are very expensive (salary, benefits, rewards, etc.)
Now Apple is a customer to Jony. Theoretically, they have leverage to push back on questionable design decisions while still maintaining overall product design continuity.
(This is just like uh, my opinion, man)
Except that Ive can pretty much pick any project he wants to work on and charge any price he likes. He also has the benefit of knowing the ins and outs of Apple, so he'll know how to extract the most money.
Also, it's not like Apple has saved any money here. They still have their internal design team, they just added an external person/team to the mix.
This is all part of a grand tax evasion scheme masterminded by Tim Cook.
Good. Now Apple can get back to make good computers.
Maybe....
Maybe....
You might need some better adages, or better adage situational awareness and deployment direction.
Ive is, literally by any metric, the benchmark for both original and creative designs in electronics.
I used the ‘disagree’ option on your post very precisely and in the sense it’s named and labelled, because I do disagree with everything you stated. I am sorry if this isn’t to your liking.
I think it’s worth considering that it doesn’t strictly equate to a downvote - at least how I’ve used it here.
To add a little detail on why I disagree with what you said: I’ve read numerous Ive articles and interviews and I think the meme-like focus here at MR on him “making things thin” belies the immense thought and consideration he seemingly puts into product design (i.e. encompassing many more elements of how a person interacts with an object than the simplistic notions of design that are often bandied around).
For me it's much more than just things being thin - although that particular goal has had some bad tradeoffs over time for sure. So often his design bias just has seemed to gravitate towards looks...to the detriment of how the human blob will successfully and happily interact with it.
I'm curious, do you have a favorite device in mind that he was associated with designing that you feel "works" as good as it "looks"?
or even better - a device that you feel they sacrificed on looks a bit specifically to make it work better and more successfully?
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Happy to have people use it, as long as they elaborate in textual form so we can actually have a discussion.
(this is a discussion forum after all)
Thank you for circling back to comment in more detail, I appreciate that immensely.
Is there an Apple product he wasn't involved in?
For me, I like that Apple products are as thin as they are, which I feel goes a long way towards making them more useable.
For example, AirPods addressed every single issue I had with wireless headphones. They were light, comfortable, and the case fits just nicely in the coin pouch of my jeans, or my front shirt pocket. The stems also made it easier to hold and handle. I admit it looked weird at first, but after using it for 5 minutes, I was sold.
With the Apple Watch, while I don't know who to credit ultimately for having swappable bands, I believe that these watch bands play an integral role in getting more people to buy and wear them by letting them better customise their watches.
I feel when it comes to wearables, how it "looks" will be just as, if not more important than how it "works", because even the most useful or powerful pair of smart glasses is useless if consumers refuse to be seen in public with it (remember google glass)?
