Jony Ive Talks Apple Park, Scoffs at Claim of New Campus Contributing to Local Tree Shortage

[Pilgrim1099]

I know this shot intimately well. That's a scene from Tron (1982) inside ENCOM .

And for the record, I don't think open work spaces are the real answer in the workforce. I've been reading up on how distracting they are compared to closed spaces like cubicles. I would not be able to concentrate or focus with open space around despite how much companies think it'll foster 'innovation' and social cooperation.

 

[steve333]

Apple is starting to remind me of Microsoft

 

[DeepIn2U]

The only things I took away from this article is

a) Ive that pompus stuffed bollock has basically said nothing publicly for almost a year only to now exude his precious stature of relevance in the company as indesposable!

b)

Outside, the green space within Apple Park's inner circle will play host to Apple's iconic "beer bashes" on Friday afternoons, which often include featured performances. Here, more than 9,000 trees, many of them drought-resistant, will supposedly have been planted by the time the campus is finished.

So the trees will be drought-resistant due to the many upchucks from Apple employees on beer bash Friday's How environmentally thoughtful of Apple
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I was beginning to think that Jony no longer worked at Apple

Oh he still works at Apple ... when it's time to gloat!
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After repeating the same design for 3 years (and possibly the 4th year iPhone 7S), can we have some real new design change?

Right now, Galaxy S8 eats any iPhone.... fresh, raw and alive!

Are we talking about ....

Specs, then yes the S7 and S8 does.
Screen resolution, speed & fluidity of rapid navigation of the OS, then yes the S8 does.
Day to Day, month after month of consistent no reboot use, easy navigation that works and is memorable without needing to think to get the device to DO what you ACTUALLY want it to do each hour, each day ... no the S8 does NOT. Load up your Android apps and their headless services and soon enough performance significantly drops and you'll not be singing Dixie.

I'm constantly reminded and in disappointment of this each time I try Android with every iteration. Maybe I'm picking the wrong manufacturer or model? maybe.
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Aww come on, Apple could give their workers lunch for free !

Too bad Steve isn't there to "pay" for lunches for other coworkers deducted from his $1 salary

LMAO!

"This is great .... I get paid $1 a year salary ... I don't now WHO is paying for my lunches, hahahaha.""

 

[_Refurbished_]

No I don't! Auto correct changed it My point being that they need somewhere great to work when they spend most of their days there.

Figured it was autocorrect. Just a funny autocorrect .

 

[amegicfox]

Jony needs to:

1. redesign the mouse with a side port so it can be charged when in use
2. bring back a soft keyboard to MacBooks instead of the current wooden keyboard
3. bring back magsafe
4. add ports to the MacBook
5. make the iMac thicker so a 10TB 7,200HD will fit in
6. make the MacMini taller with space for 2-3 hard drives and upgradable ram
7. remove the disgusting bumps on the back of the iPhones
8. redesign the iPad pen as a female, not male
9. replace all these mirror screens with MATTE screens
10. bring back the Apple light and Apple sound to all the Macs
11. make the macbook slightly thicker so the battery will last longer

instead of designing trees and playing architect

Jony tried to design software with the stupid skinny fonts of white background and failed.
He tried to design apple stores and failed.

Jony was only good when Steve was telling him what to do.

 

[Dave245]

Jony needs to:

1. redesign the mouse with a side port so it can be charged when in use
2. bring back a soft keyboard to MacBooks instead of the current wooden keyboard
3. bring back magsafe
4. add ports to the MacBook
5. make the iMac thicker so a 10TB 7,200HD will fit in
6. make the MacMini taller with space for 2-3 hard drives and upgradable ram
7. remove the disgusting bumps on the back of the iPhones
8. redesign the iPad pen as a female, not male
9. replace all these mirror screens with MATTE screens
10. bring back the Apple light and Apple sound to all the Macs
11. make the macbook slightly thicker so the battery will last longer

instead of designing trees and playing architect

Jony tried to design software with the stupid skinny fonts of white background and failed.
He tried to design apple stores and failed.

Jony was only good when Steve was telling him what to do.

Actually no, not every idea came from Steve Jobs! Jobs didn't tell Ive what to do at all in fat most of the ideas came from Jony, Ive doesn't get enough credit, it usually all goes to Jobs even now that he's gone. Don't get me wrong Jobs had some good ideas and brought Apple back from nearly going out of business but not every idea came from Jobs.

You say Jony should bring back the light up Apple logo but then in another point to say about battery life. But didn't the Apple logo use battery life? The keyboards on the new MacBook Pro's are in fact popular with many people. A lot of what you talk about is your own personal preference which is fine, but that doesn't mean Jony Ive is a bad designer, in fact he's one of the best in the business.

 

[MH01]

12,000 workers...14,000 lunches, who's having more than one lunch?!

 

[blackcrayon]

Actually no, not every idea came from Steve Jobs! Jobs didn't tell Ive what to do at all in fat most of the ideas came from Jony, Ive doesn't get enough credit, it usually all goes to Jobs even now that he's gone. Don't get me wrong Jobs had some good ideas and brought Apple back from nearly going out of business but not every idea came from Jobs.

You say Jony should bring back the light up Apple logo but then in another point to say about battery life. But didn't the Apple logo use battery life? The keyboards on the new MacBook Pro's are in fact popular with many people. A lot of what you talk about is your own personal preference which is fine, but that doesn't mean Jony Ive is a bad designer, in fact he's one of the best in the business.

The light is more a design thing. Maybe you're right, but I always (perhaps wrongly) assumed the lit Apple logo was just a cutout that allowed the backlight of the screen to shine through. But if not, the LED needed to light up the Apple logo probably doesn't use any measurable amount over the computer sleeping.

 

[Dave245]

The light is more a design thing. Maybe you're right, but I always (perhaps wrongly) assumed the lit Apple logo was just a cutout that allowed the backlight of the screen to shine through. But if not, the LED needed to light up the Apple logo probably doesn't use any measurable amount over the computer sleeping.

You may be right, I'm not 100% myself. The design of the new MacBook's is great, a lot of people do like the design even if they are not big fans of the Touch Bar. I think it depends on personal preference.

 

[R3k]

"Beer Bash" sounds pretty extreme. Like Bro's getting wasted at springtime in Tijuana extreme.

 

[Bill Thompson 88888]

This is the new trend at corporations – no privacy. It's like the early 20th century, before unions, when there would be a huge number of people in one room, each at a desk.

Personally, I would rather be in a cubicle. You can put up some artwork on the walls, a plant, your own lighting, and you have some privacy.

I would never ever work in a place where I'm sitting at a picnic table with everyone else around me.

This isn't the collective. I get private property, and I get a private space.
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I wonder if Apple employees will actually be able to keep anything on their desk?

It's not their desk. It's the collective's desk.
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Apple is starting to remind me of Microsoft

Their quality control is looking like Microsoft, lately. And their UI choices with their software.
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I know this shot intimately well. That's a scene from Tron (1982) inside ENCOM .

And for the record, I don't think open work spaces are the real answer in the workforce. I've been reading up on how distracting they are compared to closed spaces like cubicles. I would not be able to concentrate or focus with open space around despite how much companies think it'll foster 'innovation' and social cooperation.

It costs them less to cram more people in per square foot. That's the only thing this is about, because I agree being in a giant room like a cafeteria, sitting at a picnic table, is incredibly distracting, with zero privacy.

 

[Appleuser4life60077]

I am not a big fan of California, but thinking I will have to take a trip out there to see the new place, sounds totally awesome!

 

[Pilgrim1099]

This is the new trend at corporations – no privacy. It's like the early 20th century, before unions, when there would be a huge number of people in one room, each at a desk.

Personally, I would rather be in a cubicle. You can put up some artwork on the walls, a plant, your own lighting, and you have some privacy.

I would never ever work in a place where I'm sitting at a picnic table with everyone else around me.

This isn't the collective. I get private property, and I get a private space.
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It's not their desk. It's the collective's desk.
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Their quality control is looking like Microsoft, lately. And their UI choices with their software.
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It costs them less to cram more people in per square foot. That's the only thing this is about, because I agree being in a giant room like a cafeteria, sitting at a picnic table, is incredibly distracting, with zero privacy.

What shocks me is how Apple is trying to use the 'open space' trend to foster innovation in a very, very expensive new building, when in contrast, the chances of it being counter-productive is high. And I know that introverts HATE open work spaces. I should know. I'm one and have read books recently about this subject. I work on my own in my studio as a freelancer which is easier for me to concentrate and do my own thing without any interference.

If Apple thinks this is going to help them, it's going to bite them in the a$$. Apple should know better not to go with the 'open workspace' trend, although the use of the park, exercise rooms, cafe and such can energize workers to a degree. And it's ironic that Jony Ive, a purported introvert, has designed an 'open workspace' that extroverts love to be in. Even though, he didn't do the architecture of the entire place, he most likely consulted it with the main architect.

 

[Jakexb]

Hard to tell from the photos, but those desks look kind of small.

 

[Roadstar]

And for the record, I don't think open work spaces are the real answer in the workforce. I've been reading up on how distracting they are compared to closed spaces like cubicles. I would not be able to concentrate or focus with open space around despite how much companies think it'll foster 'innovation' and social cooperation.

They are distracting. I've unfortunately had to work in some of those environments and it's a nightmare for productivity. Sure, there are those occasional instances where you pick up an important piece of information from the conversations going on around you, but for approximately 95% of the time those conversations just distract you. While you can filter out some of the noise pollution with noise-cancelling headphones, it won't work for visual distraction. Unless I'm deeply concentrated on the task at hand (i.e. in the zone), I end up registering movement in my field of vision, which happens quite a lot in these open plans. And thanks to the amount of distractions, it's really hard to enter the zone in the first place. So if I can't get a smaller office, the cubicle walls at least filter out some of the visual noise and provide some privacy.

 

[gtg465x]

Seems not even apple keeps up on the work place psychology research which has shown time and time again that open workspaces actually increase employee anxiety and reduce productivity.

This might be true for some professions, but I think software engineers benefit from open workspaces. My team is constantly shooting around ideas and asking each other questions. I mean I guess we could just use Slack for that, but sometimes it's quicker just to talk. I like being in the open.

 

[ErnestPWorrell]

The media loves to lie to stir up drama. Fake newwws.

 

[Bacillus]

And it's ironic that Jony Ive, a purported introvert, has designed an 'open workspace' that extroverts love to be in. Even though, he didn't do the architecture of the entire place, he most likely consulted it with the main architect.

Ah, wait...
Don't understimate Joni's ability to distance himself from the working herds by creating his own highly inaccessible, secret, invisible, triple-isolated, ultrasonically cleaned design lab.
Which is the well-protected, sublime intrinsification of the Apple Culture: lots of bozo fuzz and secrecy around practically nothing that can be produced in enough quantities, but still iconic because of its legacy.
The Birthplace of Refurbs.